Stagecoach 2014/2015 Order
Stagecoach 2014/2015 Order
(06 Mar 2014, 8:14 pm)aureolin So you're not disclosing then? As it's not exactly new information.
(06 Mar 2014, 8:14 pm)aureolin So you're not disclosing then? As it's not exactly new information.
(06 Mar 2014, 8:17 pm)Dan Kuyoyo was probably doing as he was told by keeping quiet. Tyresmoke spilled the beans for the only other 'unknown' investment, following on from earlier posts about 25 being 'the magic number'
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'Certainly being spread around the drivers now that Stockton are getting 25 ADL Enviro 300 for the 36/37/38 group of services. This should enable 25 ALX300s to be withdrawn, with the MAN E300s expected to be cascaded onto Middlesbrough based services 11/12/14/34'
Other buses could still make their way to the North East fleet by cascades from other regions though...
(06 Mar 2014, 8:17 pm)Dan Kuyoyo was probably doing as he was told by keeping quiet. Tyresmoke spilled the beans for the only other 'unknown' investment, following on from earlier posts about 25 being 'the magic number'
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'Certainly being spread around the drivers now that Stockton are getting 25 ADL Enviro 300 for the 36/37/38 group of services. This should enable 25 ALX300s to be withdrawn, with the MAN E300s expected to be cascaded onto Middlesbrough based services 11/12/14/34'
Other buses could still make their way to the North East fleet by cascades from other regions though...
(06 Mar 2014, 8:24 pm)Kuyoyo Dan has hit the nail on the head - I've know about new vehicles for Stockton for the last 3 weeks, and had heard rumours from drivers in the weeks leading up to the date I got the confirmation, which incidentally was the day of the launch of 28001-17. I was told that day to keep quiet until closer to the time. It's this reason the Stockton Open Day is delayed until later this year - so to launch the E300s at the event.
As for external cascades, remember Stockton are still 4 Tridents outstanding. Plus, the City Sightseeing Fleet turns 24 this year (and are, by far, the oldest vehicles used in service in not just the North East but in the Stagecoach UK fleet outside of London). Apart from that, the last vehicles transferred into the North East from outside the region before 17025-9/32 were 16431-7 in 2003 so I'd be amazed if much did arrive from other regions when most still have Olympians and B10Ms to replace as well as non-DDA single deckers.
(06 Mar 2014, 8:24 pm)Kuyoyo Dan has hit the nail on the head - I've know about new vehicles for Stockton for the last 3 weeks, and had heard rumours from drivers in the weeks leading up to the date I got the confirmation, which incidentally was the day of the launch of 28001-17. I was told that day to keep quiet until closer to the time. It's this reason the Stockton Open Day is delayed until later this year - so to launch the E300s at the event.
As for external cascades, remember Stockton are still 4 Tridents outstanding. Plus, the City Sightseeing Fleet turns 24 this year (and are, by far, the oldest vehicles used in service in not just the North East but in the Stagecoach UK fleet outside of London). Apart from that, the last vehicles transferred into the North East from outside the region before 17025-9/32 were 16431-7 in 2003 so I'd be amazed if much did arrive from other regions when most still have Olympians and B10Ms to replace as well as non-DDA single deckers.
(06 Mar 2014, 8:30 pm)aureolin Out of interest, do the City Sightseeing buses (nationwide for that matter), have a deadline to comply with the equality act?
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(06 Mar 2014, 8:30 pm)aureolin Out of interest, do the City Sightseeing buses (nationwide for that matter), have a deadline to comply with the equality act?
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(06 Mar 2014, 8:30 pm)aureolin Out of interest, do the City Sightseeing buses (nationwide for that matter), have a deadline to comply with the equality act?
(06 Mar 2014, 8:30 pm)aureolin Out of interest, do the City Sightseeing buses (nationwide for that matter), have a deadline to comply with the equality act?
(06 Mar 2014, 8:34 pm)Kuyoyo Same deadline as normal service vehicles - as they operate as registered services, they have to be DDA-compliant by 1st January 2017. Newcastle is currently the only Stagecoach-operated franchise that still uses high floor vehicles (and has always used the oldest vehicles of the 3 owned franchise anyway).
(06 Mar 2014, 8:34 pm)Kuyoyo Same deadline as normal service vehicles - as they operate as registered services, they have to be DDA-compliant by 1st January 2017. Newcastle is currently the only Stagecoach-operated franchise that still uses high floor vehicles (and has always used the oldest vehicles of the 3 owned franchise anyway).
(06 Mar 2014, 8:38 pm)Tom Suppose it could get 17012-16 from Cumbria?
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(06 Mar 2014, 8:34 pm)Kuyoyo Same deadline as normal service vehicles - as they operate as registered services, they have to be DDA-compliant by 1st January 2017. Newcastle is currently the only Stagecoach-operated franchise that still uses high floor vehicles (and has always used the oldest vehicles of the 3 owned franchise anyway).
(06 Mar 2014, 8:34 pm)Kuyoyo Same deadline as normal service vehicles - as they operate as registered services, they have to be DDA-compliant by 1st January 2017. Newcastle is currently the only Stagecoach-operated franchise that still uses high floor vehicles (and has always used the oldest vehicles of the 3 owned franchise anyway).
A surprising addition to the order - this is not related to the North East but is part of the order
http://www.stagecoachbus.com/pressreleas...px?Id=1720
(27 Mar 2014, 3:42 pm)Kuyoyo A surprising addition to the order - this is not related to the North East but is part of the order
http://www.stagecoachbus.com/pressreleas...px?Id=1720
(27 Mar 2014, 3:42 pm)Kuyoyo A surprising addition to the order - this is not related to the North East but is part of the order
http://www.stagecoachbus.com/pressreleas...px?Id=1720
Order break down as the first vehicles have been completed and are as I post this, en-route to the first lucky depot in this year's order
69 ADL Enviro 400 Scania double-deckers
86 ADL Enviro 300 single-deckers - 27101-86
27141/2: C&SL Carlisle
27157-81: NE Stockton
28 ADL Enviro 300 Scania single-deckers
23 ADL Enviro 300 Scania GAS single-deckers
28018-40: NE Sunderland (due May)
26 Astromega Euro 6 double deck coaches (for Oxford Tube)
3 Astromega Euro 5 double-deck coaches
6 Van Hool Altano TDX 21 left-hand drive coaches
55011-6: Megabus Rugby
199 ADL Enviro 200 Dart 4 midibuses - 37081-37179
37081-5: ES Perth (Delivered 10-11th April 2014)
37086-126: C&SL Carlisle (Under Construction)
37143/4: NE South Shields (Due July)
2 ADL Enviro 200 Dart 4 Euro 6 midibuses
29 ADL Enviro400 Euro 6 double-deckers
All 29 for Manchester
13 Optare Solo Cummins minibuses
8 Plaxton Elite i Volvo B11R Euro 6 coaches
54222-9
3 Van Hool Astromega double-deck sleepercoach vehicles
50311-3
18 ADL Enviro 400 Volvo B5LH Euro 6 hybrid double-deckers
13041-58: ES Dundee
32 Wrightbus Gemini Volvo B5LH Euro 6 hybrid double-deckers
13001-32: London
40 ADL Enviro 400 Trident Euro 6 hybrid double-deckers
1 ADL Enviro 400 Trident Conventional Euro 6
Updated list
69 ADL Enviro 400 Scania double-deckers
15175-196
15950-96
86 ADL Enviro 300 single-deckers - 27101-86
27141/2: C&SL Carlisle
27157-81: NE Stockton
28 ADL Enviro 300 Scania single-deckers
28681-712
23 ADL Enviro 300 Scania GAS single-deckers
28018-40: NE Sunderland (due May)
26 Astromega Euro 6 double deck coaches (for Oxford Tube)
50261-86: MD Oxford
5 examples will carry the cherished registrations T40/44/50/55/60 UBE
3 Astromega Euro 5 double-deck coaches
50251-3: WS Glasgow
6 Van Hool Altano TDX 21 left-hand drive coaches
55011-6: Megabus Rugby
199 ADL Enviro 200 Dart 4 midibuses - 37081-37179
37081-5: ES Perth (Delivered 10-11th April 2014)
37086-126: C&SL Carlisle (Under Construction)
37125-42
37143/4: NE South Shields (Due July)
37145-290
2 ADL Enviro 200 Dart 4 Euro 6 midibuses
37291/2
29 ADL Enviro400 Euro 6 double-deckers
10401-29: MA (Depot Unknown)
13 Optare Solo Cummins minibuses
47921 C&SL Carlisle
47922-33
8 Plaxton Elite i Volvo B11R Euro 6 coaches
54231-8: ES Aberhill
3 Van Hool Astromega double-deck sleepercoach vehicles
50311-3: WS Glasgow
18 ADL Enviro 400 Volvo B5LH Euro 6 hybrid double-deckers
13041-58: ES Dundee
32 Wrightbus Gemini Volvo B5LH Euro 6 hybrid double-deckers
13001-32: London
40 ADL Enviro 400 Trident Euro 6 hybrid double-deckers
12324-63: LO Bow
1 ADL Enviro 400 Trident Conventional Euro 6
10197: London (depot unknown)
I'm surprised that Stagecoach is ordering with Wrights and Volvo. That's a very wierd turn of events with Arriva going in the opposite way with regards to the E400 order but Wrights no longer build the DB300 integral although essentially, the ADL and VDL chassis both come with the same engine but just built and tuned slightly differently.
(12 Apr 2014, 7:47 pm)Davey Bowyer I'm surprised that Stagecoach is ordering with Wrights and Volvo. That's a very wierd turn of events with Arriva going in the opposite way with regards to the E400 order but Wrights no longer build the DB300 integral although essentially, the ADL and VDL chassis both come with the same engine but just built and tuned slightly differently.
(12 Apr 2014, 7:47 pm)Davey Bowyer I'm surprised that Stagecoach is ordering with Wrights and Volvo. That's a very wierd turn of events with Arriva going in the opposite way with regards to the E400 order but Wrights no longer build the DB300 integral although essentially, the ADL and VDL chassis both come with the same engine but just built and tuned slightly differently.
Had confirmation on the first of the E300 order, see below
Stagecoach 2014-2015 Order
69 ADL Enviro 400 Scania double-deckers
15175-196
15175-15179: EM Grimsby
15180-15189: EK Folkestone
15190-15196: YZ Chesterfield
15950-96
15950-960: EA Cambridge
15961-963: SW Torquay
15964-966: OF Oxford
15967-976: WX Swindon
15977-981: WX Cheltenham
15982-993: SE (Depot Unallocated)
15994-996: OX Oxford
86 ADL Enviro 300 single-deckers - 27101-86
27101-112: BU Aberdeen
27113-116: MY Preston
27117-130: ES Glenrothes
27131-140: ES Perth
27141/2: C&SL Carlisle
27143-156: MY Gillmoss
27157-181: NE Stockton
27182-186: (Currently Unallocated)
28 ADL Enviro 300 Scania single-deckers
28681-712
28681-708: (Currently Unallocated)
28709-712: WW Cwmbran
23 ADL Enviro 300 Scania GAS single-deckers
28018-40: NE Sunderland (due May)
26 Astromega Euro 6 double deck coaches (for Oxford Tube)
50261-86: OF Oxford
5 examples will carry the cherished registrations T40/44/50/55/60 UBE
3 Astromega Euro 5 double-deck coaches
50251-3: WS Glasgow
6 Van Hool Altano TDX 21 left-hand drive coaches
55011-6: Megabus Rugby
199 ADL Enviro 200 Dart 4 midibuses - 37081-37179
37081-5: ES Perth (Delivered 10-11th April 2014)
37086-126: C&SL Carlisle (Under Construction)
37127-129: MY Preston
37130-141: SW Exeter
37142: SW Exmouth
37143/4: NE South Shields (Due July)
37145: YZ Barnsley
37146-166: MA Stockport
37167-180: WW Caerphilly
37181-186: YZ Chesterfield
37187-209: EM Grimsby
37210-215: EA Cambridge
37216-235: EA Peterborough
37236-279: (Currently Unallocated)
37280-290: WS Arran (Scotland)
2 ADL Enviro 200 Dart 4 Euro 6 midibuses
37291/2: SE Basingstoke
29 ADL Enviro400 Euro 6 double-deckers
10401-29: MA Sharston
13 Optare Solo M880 Cummins minibuses
47921: C&NL Carlisle
47922-923: MY Preston
47924-927: SE Andover
47928-930: SE Chichester
47931-933: SE Aldershot
8 Plaxton Elite i Volvo B11R Euro 6 coaches
54231-8: ES Aberhill
3 Van Hool Astromega double-deck sleepercoach vehicles
50311-3: WS Glasgow
18 ADL Enviro 400 ? Volvo B5LH Euro 6 hybrid double-deckers
13041-58: ES Dundee
32 Wrightbus Gemini Volvo B5LH Euro 6 hybrid double-deckers
13001-32: LN Plumstead
40 ADL Enviro 400 Trident Euro 6 hybrid double-deckers
12324-63: LN Bow
1 ADL Enviro 400 Trident Conventional Euro 6
10197: LN Bromley
Some new additional information regarding various parts of the order (as well as some corrections which are listed in bold)
Stagecoach 2014-2015 Order
69 ADL Enviro 400 Scania double-deckers
15175-196
15175-15179: EM Grimsby
15180-15189: EK Folkestone GOLD spec
15190-15196: YZ Chesterfield GOLD spec
15950-96
15950-960: EA Cambridge GOLD spec
15961-963: SW Torquay GOLD spec
15964-966: OF Oxford GOLD spec
15967-970: WX Swindon GOLD spec
15971-976: WX Swindon
15977-981: WX Cheltenham
15982-993: SE Worthing
15994-996: OX Oxford
86 ADL Enviro 300 Euro 6 single-deckers - 27101-86
27101-112: BU Aberdeen
27113-116: MY Preston
27117-130: ES Glenrothes
27131-140: ES Perth
27141/2: C&SL Carlisle
27143-156: MY Gillmoss
27157-181: NE Stockton
27182-186: EM Mansfield
28 ADL Enviro 300 Scania single-deckers
28681-712
28681-688: WX Cheltenham
28689-702: WS Kilmarnock
28703-708: WS Cumnock
28709-712: WW Cwmbran
23 ADL Enviro 300 Scania GAS single-deckers
28018-40: NE Sunderland (due May)
26 Astromega Euro 6 double deck coaches (for Oxford Tube)
50261-86: OF Oxford
5 examples will carry the cherished registrations T40/44/50/55/60 UBE
3 Astromega Euro 5 double-deck coaches
50251-3: WS Glasgow
6 Van Hool Altano TDX 21 left-hand drive coaches
55011-6: Megabus Rugby
199 ADL Enviro 200 Dart 4 midibuses - 37081-37179
37081-5: ES Perth (Delivered 10-11th April 2014)
37086-126: C&SL Carlisle (Under Construction)
37127-129: MY Preston
37130-141: SW Exeter
37142: SW Exmouth
37143/4: NE South Shields (Due July)
37145: YZ Barnsley
37146-166: MA Stockport
37167-180: WW Caerphilly
37181-186: YZ Chesterfield
37187-209: EM Grimsby
37210-215: EA Cambridge
37216-235: EA Peterborough
37236-247: WX Cheltenham
37248-253: WS Kilmarnock
37254-259: HL Inverness
37260-277: SE Worthing
37278-283: SE Chichester
37284-288: SE Portsmouth
37289-290: Unallocated
2 ADL Enviro 200 Dart 4 Euro 6 midibuses
37291/2: SE Eastbourne
29 ADL MMC Euro 6 double-deckers
10401-29: MA Sharston
13 Optare Solo M900 Cummins minibuses
47921: C&NL Carlisle
47922-923: MY Preston
47924-927: SE Andover
47928-930: SE Chichester
47931-933: SE Aldershot
8 Plaxton Elite i Volvo B11R Euro 6 coaches
54231-8: ES Aberhill
3 Van Hool Astromega double-deck sleepercoach vehicles
50311-3: WS Glasgow
18 ADL Enviro MMC Volvo B5LH Euro 6 hybrid double-deckers
13041-58: ES Glenrothes (note these are currently down as due in early 2015 but may be required before the end of the year)
32 Wrightbus Gemini Volvo B5LH Euro 6 hybrid double-deckers
13001-32: LN Plumstead
40 ADL Enviro 400 Trident Euro 6 hybrid double-deckers
12324-63: LN Bow
1 ADL Enviro 400 Trident Conventional Euro 6
10197: LN Bromley
Note, the original list from the Stagecoach Bus Handbook 2014 are those due by the end of September (13041-58)