(29 Jun 2023, 10:42 am)streetdeckfan wrote The B5s have been fairly reliable on the X21 though haven't they?
Certainly much more so than the first batch of Streetdecks they replaced

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(29 Jun 2023, 3:15 pm)Iamtheone8483748 wrote Well I have a feeling the people hoping for this rumour to be true will be waiting a while, cannot see new buses being bought for the X21 anytime soon

(29 Jun 2023, 3:34 pm)deanmachine wrote Isn't that where the Red Kite Streetdecks are going though?

(29 Jun 2023, 4:41 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I thought the rumours were we were getting E400s!

Christ, I can't keep up with all the crap being spewed on here!

(06 Jul 2023, 8:01 pm)Unber43 wrote What will the PVR be of the new services, wonder if the spares may go onto the 6.

But I defentially think the 60 needs some sort of replacement 5370/5369/73/72 are all really struggling, with 5374 starting to struggle too, wonder if they could get the 66 plate streetlites.

5370/72 was off for months and they are still the same got 5370 on the 9 it crawled.

Also do we knew if the 553 (or whatever the numbers are) are going to get a brand or corporate?

(06 Jul 2023, 8:40 pm)V514DFT wrote Nobody cares, why dont you take it up with GNE instead of coming onto a forum to moan about the same usual dribble you come out with, we get it, you hate everything GNE do, no need to bang on about it 24/7

(06 Jul 2023, 8:40 pm)V514DFT wrote Nobody cares, why dont you take it up with GNE instead of coming onto a forum to moan about the same usual dribble you come out with, we get it, you hate everything GNE do, no need to bang on about it 24/7

(06 Jul 2023, 8:40 pm)V514DFT wrote Nobody cares, why dont you take it up with GNE instead of coming onto a forum to moan about the same usual dribble you come out with, we get it, you hate everything GNE do, no need to bang on about it 24/7

(18 Jul 2023, 11:31 am)F114TML wrote Rather amusingly, Drifter 5374 has packed in at the Wheatsheaf right outside the Stagecoach depot.

(18 Jul 2023, 9:06 pm)Andreos1 wrote A forlorn looking 21 branded decker, on the hard-shoulder outside Washington Services tonight.

Was driving in the opposite direction, so didn't get to id it.

(18 Jul 2023, 11:55 pm)Ambassador wrote Those Angels are 5 years old now, I feel like they were introduced yesterday, aside the mess of the table coverings they don’t show their age passenger wise at alll

It was probably the utter mess that preceded them…omnicities, B7, Elcs, hybrids that paints a rosy picture

And when you get a 13 year old ex London bus as a replacement….they seem even better

(19 Jul 2023, 3:55 pm)NL62WVW wrote From a passenger point of view they do still look decent inside and out.

From a drivers point of view there starting to show their age, some running around with constant faults. There must only be 3 or 4 that are decent from a drivers point of view now.

6330s issue last night was belt related, if I heard correctly not the first time this month either. Always been the runt of the litter that one lol

(12 Aug 2023, 12:07 pm)Bazza wrote Is that an argument for or against GNE?

(12 Aug 2023, 12:42 pm)Storx wrote Against, GNE is a hot mess imo.

Cuts everywhere, lack of investment, second hand unrefurbished buses which are 14 year old for frontline work etc. It's in a poor shape.

The Sunderland Deptford fleet, in particular, is in poor shape. ULEZ or not and Riverside isn't much better recently apart from the 21/X21 which constantly gets investment.

(12 Aug 2023, 12:42 pm)Storx wrote Against, GNE is a hot mess imo.

Cuts everywhere, lack of investment, second hand unrefurbished buses which are 14 year old for frontline work etc. It's in a poor shape.

The Sunderland Deptford fleet, in particular, is in poor shape. ULEZ or not and Riverside isn't much better recently apart from the 21/X21 which constantly gets investment.

(12 Aug 2023, 3:34 pm)Unber43 wrote I would say GNE, in the past two/three years have been nothing but cuts, but this seems to be turning around, brand new routes on comerical risk, frequency improvments, then reductions and more reductions and more reducations, but then they seems to be on the uprising of increased frequency services. 

There are still a few which needs to return to the pre-reduced frequency. However I do agree on the lack of investments, I mean I saw Dan talking about dedicated school buses, but the E400 end up all over like literally everywhere. 

But I do agree GNEs fleet is massively aging and something hast to be done urgently about it

(12 Aug 2023, 3:34 pm)Unber43 wrote I would say GNE, in the past two/three years have been nothing but cuts, but this seems to be turning around, brand new routes on comerical risk, frequency improvments, then reductions and more reductions and more reducations, but then they seems to be on the uprising of increased frequency services. 

There are still a few which needs to return to the pre-reduced frequency. However I do agree on the lack of investments, I mean I saw Dan talking about dedicated school buses, but the E400 end up all over like literally everywhere. 

But I do agree GNEs fleet is massively aging and something hast to be done urgently about it

(12 Aug 2023, 5:04 pm)Storx wrote Honestly, I don't really think it needs to be new buses. There's other way around it aswell, there's plenty buses which have never had a refurbishment bar sticking some new moquette in or in the case of some Streetlite's and Versa's haven't been touched in over 13 year now, some of which are on flagship routes (60 in particular).

The Coast Road B9's are an example of what you can do without buying a new fleet and is as good as new.

It's the similar with the ex London Buses. Arriva's ex London buses all had a full refurbishment and some of them you couldn't tell the difference between some of the newer stuff, especially the B7's. These new buses are coming in GoAhead London interior and it just screams old to anyone.

Must admit it does help having a uniform interior across the business rather than 20 different livery's even in some areas, especially up here, having numerous interiors, so swapping vehicles around isn't a problem as much.

(12 Aug 2023, 3:34 pm)Unber43 wrote I would say GNE, in the past two/three years have been nothing but cuts, but this seems to be turning around, brand new routes on comerical risk, frequency improvments, then reductions and more reductions and more reducations, but then they seems to be on the uprising of increased frequency services. 

There are still a few which needs to return to the pre-reduced frequency. However I do agree on the lack of investments, I mean I saw Dan talking about dedicated school buses, but the E400 end up all over like literally everywhere. 

But I do agree GNEs fleet is massively aging and something hast to be done urgently about it

(13 Aug 2023, 11:16 pm)Adrian wrote But what do you do? You genuinely don't know the reasons why the E400s are ending up elsewhere. It could be that they have a shortage of buses on the road. Therefore, it's a good use of the E400s, rather than them sitting doing nothing in between scholars and other contract work.

As much as people on here like to believe otherwise, the vast majority of customers do not care what type of bus turns up, who the manufacturer is, what engine it has, what colour etc. They're simply looking for the bus to turn up and on time.

I do agree that the ageing issue with the fleet isn't going to get better without investment, but in order to have a business case for new buses, the Group are going to want some return from it. Not only that, they're also competing with North West, for example, where they're going to be contractually obliged to provide buses of a certain specification.

I can't see how GNE are in a position to offer a return until such a time they return to profit, so whilst enthusiasts might complain about aged deckers or whatnot, they're allowing service to be maintained.

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