(02 Feb 2024, 10:26 pm)Storx wrote Does anyone know if the X20 is tendered for Deckers? I just find it a bit strange how a bus route which wasn't sustainable at all on a commercial basis, now suddenly needs Deckers on it. It's going from one extreme to the other.

Surely the Enviro 200 MMC's which are going from pillar to post lately could've done it instead with the B5TL's being at Riverside or Consett who are both struggling with Decker's lately.

(03 Feb 2024, 3:55 pm)DeltaMan wrote I think it's worth pointing out that to qualify for CBSSG, an operator needed to run 90% (I think) off pre COVID mileage in order to get help. So, even if they wanted to make fundamental changes, they couldn't (unless they totally redesigned the entire network with out of date data which came to a similar mileage) 

(04 Feb 2024, 12:15 pm)Andreos1 wrote Data gathered from the vehicles or actual data from people who would make the modal switch if there was a viable alternative?

It goes without saying that the data they gather on their vehicles is useful. But it's only useful in gathering data for existing passengers. 
Not data from the ones who have moved on or never touched public transport in the first place. 

The proportion of people using public transport regularly vs the proportion that don't, shows how many views/opinions/needs aren't taken in to consideration when these changes, revisions or tweaks are made. 
A pro-active operator would seek these out at whatever cost*. Because even a small proportion of car users switching to a viable alternative, not only makes helps those profits, but it has a huge positive impact on reliability.

*I'd hazard a guess the ROI is far greater than titivations ever were.

(04 Feb 2024, 3:24 pm)DeltaMan wrote As the great MG said, car sized problems require car sized solutions - and he's right

(04 Feb 2024, 12:15 pm)Andreos1 wrote Data gathered from the vehicles or actual data from people who would make the modal switch if there was a viable alternative?

It goes without saying that the data they gather on their vehicles is useful. But it's only useful in gathering data for existing passengers. 
Not data from the ones who have moved on or never touched public transport in the first place. 

The proportion of people using public transport regularly vs the proportion that don't, shows how many views/opinions/needs aren't taken in to consideration when these changes, revisions or tweaks are made. 
A pro-active operator would seek these out at whatever cost*. Because even a small proportion of car users switching to a viable alternative, not only makes helps those profits, but it has a huge positive impact on reliability.

*I'd hazard a guess the ROI is far greater than titivations ever were.

(04 Feb 2024, 2:05 am)Jimmi wrote At least some of the boards on the X20 require double deckers for peak time loadings to/from Langley Park which was why some 20 boards were being allocated double deckers in the X20's absence.

Not too sure beyond that if the X20 really requires deckers, although at least its more Euro 6 CAZ compliant deckers that could be sent to Newcastle on the 56 if required.

(04 Feb 2024, 12:15 pm)Andreos1 wrote Data gathered from the vehicles or actual data from people who would make the modal switch if there was a viable alternative?

It goes without saying that the data they gather on their vehicles is useful. But it's only useful in gathering data for existing passengers. 
Not data from the ones who have moved on or never touched public transport in the first place. 

The proportion of people using public transport regularly vs the proportion that don't, shows how many views/opinions/needs aren't taken in to consideration when these changes, revisions or tweaks are made. 
A pro-active operator would seek these out at whatever cost*. Because even a small proportion of car users switching to a viable alternative, not only makes helps those profits, but it has a huge positive impact on reliability.

*I'd hazard a guess the ROI is far greater than titivations ever were.

(03 Feb 2024, 9:04 am)Unber43 wrote Between the 21/X10/X21 there is Flexability, 6333, 3 Angles and 6377.

Theres pretty much always atleast 1 X10 off, one-four X21, and 3 21's. However a lot of this is due to incompetent allocating, such as putting them on school routes or the 57.

(04 Feb 2024, 7:10 pm)Bazza wrote I doubt very much that you have the knowledge or expertise to assess whether the allocation issues are due incompetence

(04 Feb 2024, 7:10 pm)Bazza wrote I doubt very much that you have the knowledge or expertise to assess whether the allocation issues are due incompetence

(05 Feb 2024, 1:32 pm)Unber43 wrote Well if its due to a fault on the vehcile maybe they should fix the vehicle

(05 Feb 2024, 1:52 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Which they do - but you clearly don't know anything about how things work in depots during the morning run-out. There's no way you can discover a defect on a vehicle and have the fitter fix it in the time allocated for a defect check before that working leaves the depot given the allocated time for a defect check is 10 minutes. If the allocated vehicle has a defect, the driver either has to start by defect checking another vehicle or take what is called a 'hot bus' - a spare vehicle already defect checked and ready to go. End of the day, at present, most of the general public would rather have a bus turn up vaguely on time than worry if it has the features.