North East Buses

(09 Mar 2015, 6:26 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]Until you reach the evening when only Durham to Middlesbrough run and the timetable is set-up for Durham operation. Not to mention requiring two registrations on VOSA to cover the two op licenses...................

(09 Mar 2015, 6:43 pm)aureolin wrote [ -> ]What's to stop Durham operating evening runs? Saltmeadows (now Riverside) operate evening runs on the 85/86 in Washington, instead of the Washington depot. Belmont ANE depot operate the evening 82/83 in Washington, as oppose to the Washington GNE depot. Plenty of Pulsars sitting in the depot on an evening.

It it was considered, and proven to be operationally more efficient, then I guess two registrations would be the least of their worries... hardly think it's a deal breaker anyway? 

(09 Mar 2015, 7:05 pm)tyresmoke wrote [ -> ]I think there would be more of an issue with sending drivers on higher pay rates into territory where everyone else is on significantly less. I know it happens from time to time with loans etc but to do it scheduled, every day, would probably cause unions to kick up a fuss etc. I know I wouldn't be happy working on a route alongside Jesmond who were getting paid £2-£3 more than me to do the same work

(09 Mar 2015, 7:09 pm)mb134 wrote [ -> ]Is there a significant difference in pay like? How is this fair, within the same company?

(09 Mar 2015, 7:11 pm)tyresmoke wrote [ -> ]Two separate companies, legally - Arriva Durham County and Arriva Northumbria

(09 Mar 2015, 7:13 pm)mb134 wrote [ -> ]Really doesn't seem fair in the slightest, why should people in one area get paid more than those in another, when doing the same job and separated by pretty much only a river. In which area is the pay higher?

(09 Mar 2015, 6:22 pm)aureolin wrote [ -> ]Aye... good luck with that one.

I was thinking about this earlier today, and I reckon it would probably make more sense for Jesmond to have the Durham boards. It'd give Arriva the flexibility of dropping a bus in, and pulling a late one out, should this happen at either end of the route. 

(09 Mar 2015, 7:15 pm)citaro5284 wrote [ -> ]Happens all over, you even have different pay rates in a depot let alone different companies.

(09 Mar 2015, 7:05 pm)tyresmoke wrote [ -> ]I think there would be more of an issue with sending drivers on higher pay rates into territory where everyone else is on significantly less. I know it happens from time to time with loans etc but to do it scheduled, every day, would probably cause unions to kick up a fuss etc. I know I wouldn't be happy working on a route alongside Jesmond who were getting paid £2-£3 more than me to do the same work

(09 Mar 2015, 7:23 pm)palatine3833 wrote [ -> ]How would this affect the boards which start from Coxhoe on a morning and Chester-le-Street - a lot more dead running to allow Jesmond to operate it, not to mention the dead running back on an evening.  You could argue that they could extend the X2 to run earlier, but rather than making drastic changes like that, surely it would make sense just to add an extra 5 mins running time in and maybe some recovery time at each terminus?

(09 Mar 2015, 7:30 pm)mb134 wrote [ -> ]Do drivers at the different depots know this, and what is it down to? Profit of the individual depots or?

I wouldn't be very happy if I was getting paid less than someone at a depot 5 minutes down the road, if they were doing exactly the same job.

(09 Mar 2015, 7:30 pm)mb134 wrote [ -> ]Do drivers at the different depots know this, and what is it down to? Profit of the individual depots or?

I wouldn't be very happy if I was getting paid less than someone at a depot 5 minutes down the road, if they were doing exactly the same job.

(09 Mar 2015, 7:13 pm)mb134 wrote [ -> ]Really doesn't seem fair in the slightest, why should people in one area get paid more than those in another, when doing the same job and separated by pretty much only a river. In which area is the pay higher?

(09 Mar 2015, 6:28 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]But if someone was to complain to someone higher up than the powers that be at Arriva, they'd have to make changes anyway if reliability was as poor as reported by a customer due to the timetable being neither "realistic" nor "achievable".................

I think Arriva are aware of the situation but do not want to alter things that reflect on profit.The Darlington X1 which is in terms a new service has timing issues but just soldiers on as there is nothing that can be realistically done with a tight timetable. Makes us wonder why VOSA do not push for action

(10 Mar 2015, 3:25 pm)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]1305 X12 from Middlesbrough Bus Station arrived around 10 minutes late and left around 10 minutes late too.
7440 was on this journey.

(10 Mar 2015, 5:36 pm)Tom wrote [ -> ]A couple are late:

Bus X2 16:51 Durham Bus Station to Newcastle Upon Tyne Eldon Square + 7
Bus X2 16:55 Newcastle Upon Tyne Eldon Square to Durham Bus Station + 9

(10 Mar 2015, 6:09 pm)aureolin wrote [ -> ]More than a couple:

0740 X12 - Durham to Boro - 9L by the time it reached Stockton
0741 X2 - Durham to Newcastle - 9L by the time it reached Newcastle
0815 X12 - Durham to Boro - 9L by the time it reached Stockton
0841 X2 - Durham to Newcastle - 12L by the time it reached Birtley
0845 X12 - Durham to Boro - 9L by the time it reached Coxhoe
1020 X2 - Newcastle to Durham - 8L by the time it reached Chester Moor
1021 X2 - Durham to Newcastle - 13L by the time it reached Harlow Green
1050 X12 - Durham to Boro - 9L by the time it reached Coxhoe
1051 X2 - Durham to Newcastle - 7L by the time it reached Pity Me
1120 X2 - Newcastle to Durham - 10L by the time it reached Chester Moor
1121 X2 - Durham to Newcastle - 8L by the time it reached Low Fell
1220 X12 - Durham to Boro - 17L by the time it reached Stockton
1250 X12 - Durham to Boro - 12L by the time it reached Sedgefield
1450 X2 - Newcastle to Durham - 10L by the time it reached Chester Moor
1451 X2 - Durham to Newcastle - 20L by the time it reached Harlow Green
1525 X12 - Durham to Boro - 9L by the time it reached Shincliffe
1630 X12 - Durham to Boro - 9L by the time it reached Stockton
1640 X12 - Boro to Durham - 12L by the time it reached Sedgefield
1700 X12 - Durham to Boro - 17L by the time it reached Coxhoe

(10 Mar 2015, 7:04 pm)citaro5284 wrote [ -> ]And that is with no issues with the running times 

(10 Mar 2015, 8:52 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote [ -> ]Howay then folks, top ten unreliable Arriva services in the North East. Can include bands as one route  (i.e X21 /X22 or 57/57a or even 43/44/45). If two duplicate route numbers across North East network exist, state either NOR for Northumbria (i.e X21NOR) or DCO for Durham County (i.e X21DCO).

(10 Mar 2015, 8:52 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote [ -> ]Howay then folks, top ten unreliable Arriva services in the North East. Can include bands as one route  (i.e X21 /X22 or 57/57a or even 43/44/45). If two duplicate route numbers across North East network exist, state either NOR for Northumbria (i.e X21NOR) or DCO for Durham County (i.e X21DCO).

(10 Mar 2015, 9:46 pm)Tom wrote [ -> ]- X2/X12
- 308
- X18
- 1/1B/5/5A 

(11 Mar 2015, 9:30 am)John_R wrote [ -> ]Given I'm a regular user of 1/1B, personally I find they are always on time.