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(13 May 2016, 6:11 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Doubt it would be Sunderland, Newcastle or Shields, so it'll likely to be Stockton or Hartlepool.

Nor will it be Hartlepool - Hartlepool are a midibus-only depot.

(13 May 2016, 6:19 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote [ -> ]5x to slatyford for 100
2x to shields for x20
Hope that happens
(13 May 2016, 6:21 pm)Tom wrote [ -> ]What would be the point in putting them on the 100?

No point putting them on the 100 - they have a smaller capacity than 27506-10 and that's the whole reason they are still on the 100 nearly 11 years after they were first purchased.
(13 May 2016, 6:25 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]Nor will it be Hartlepool - Hartlepool are a midibus-only depot.


No point putting them on the 100 - they have a smaller capacity than 27506-10 and that's the whole reason they are still on the 100 nearly 11 years after they were first purchased.

Oh aye, i'll stick with Stockton then. 

Are they any different inside compared to the NE set up, like seat wise etc?
(13 May 2016, 6:26 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Oh aye, i'll stick with Stockton then. 

Are they any different inside compared to the NE set up, like seat wise etc?

I'm putting my money on Slatyford, There's 27 E200MMCs to replace the same amount of MANs but with there being 45 Serviceable MANs under 54 reg or older there, Adding that to the reported cacade of surplus E400s from Walkergate and the replaced Slatyford E400s allocated to the 62/63 ( Which is presumed to be gaining E400MMCs ) , Them 7 Kinetics could potentially replace all 220** MANs at Slatyford. The 223** and 224** MANs will be staying for a couple more years id imagine.
(13 May 2016, 8:18 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote [ -> ]I'm putting my money on Slatyford, There's 27 E200MMCs to replace the same amount of MANs but with there being 45 Serviceable MANs under 54 reg or older there, Adding that to the reported cacade of surplus E400s from Walkergate and the replaced Slatyford E400s allocated to the 62/63 ( Which is presumed to be gaining E400MMCs ) , Them 7 Kinetics could potentially replace all 220** MANs at Slatyford. The 223** and 224** MANs will be staying for a couple more years id imagine.

BIB: 18 E200MMCs.
(13 May 2016, 8:28 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]BIB: 18 E200MMCs.

Which makes it even more likely then they will go to Slatyford, And also considering Slatyfords MANs are by far the worst condition MANs in the fleet....
So them buses are not going to stockton dose mean we get some e400 to stockton than or not.
We don't know where they are going. No cascade plans are set in stone.

I wish I hadn't mentioned anything now....
(13 May 2016, 8:51 pm)glen wrote [ -> ]So them buses are not going to stockton dose mean we get some e400 to stockton than or not.

Only a select few know where they are going.

No one knows where the E400's will go either, we'll just have to wait and see, we don't even know when the new buses will arrive at Newcastle....
(13 May 2016, 9:00 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]We don't know where they are going. No cascade plans are set in stone.

I wish I hadn't mentioned anything now....

Be expected to be asked until they arrive..... Haha
(13 May 2016, 9:00 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]We don't know where they are going. No cascade plans are set in stone.

I wish I hadn't mentioned anything now....

Nothing wrong with speculation, though.
(13 May 2016, 9:09 pm)S813 FVK wrote [ -> ]Nothing wrong with speculation, though.

Aye, fancy there being discussion about the latest news in a thread called 'latest news and discussion'.
(13 May 2016, 9:34 pm)James101 wrote [ -> ]Aye, fancy there being discussion about the latest news in a thread called 'latest news and discussion'.

Leading on from that, fancy there being discussion leading from a post which doesn't specify details...!!!
Just to add they aren't unique because there is more than one of them. If you want unique, then look no further than the double decker version (ELC Kinetic+)
(09 May 2016, 8:37 am)Davie wrote [ -> ]I think the 62/63 interwork with the X63 at peak times, however I may be wrong.

A bit late... but still:
The routes are 62: North Walbottle-Killingworth Bus Station, this interworks with 63:
Chapel-House-Killingworth Bus Station

The X63 doesn't serve any of the above locations, it goes from Monument to Killingworth West Bailey not calling at Killingworth Bus Station, it runs anti-clockwise round Killingworth
(13 May 2016, 8:18 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote [ -> ]I'm putting my money on Slatyford, There's 27 E200MMCs to replace the same amount of MANs but with there being 45 Serviceable MANs under 54 reg or older there, Adding that to the reported cacade of surplus E400s from Walkergate and the replaced Slatyford E400s allocated to the 62/63 ( Which is presumed to be gaining E400MMCs ) , Them 7 Kinetics could potentially replace all 220** MANs at Slatyford. The 223** and 224** MANs will be staying for a couple more years id imagine.

I really, really hope they go on the 6/7/8 as I use it a lot, or even better the 32 Tongue

D4v1d89

(14 May 2016, 7:27 pm)NK53 TKT wrote [ -> ]A bit late... but still:
The routes are 62: North Walbottle-Killingworth Bus Station, this interworks with 63:
Chapel-House-Killingworth Bus Station

The X63 doesn't serve any of the above locations, it goes from Monument to Killingworth West Bailey not calling at Killingworth Bus Station, it runs anti-clockwise round Killingworth

Out of the 4 X63s 3 of them run onto 62/63. 

18:30 63
18:42 62
19:12 62

The last x63 is the only one that doesn't run onto a 62/63
(14 May 2016, 11:50 pm)D4v1d89 wrote [ -> ]Out of the 4 X63s 3 of them run onto 62/63. 

18:30 63
18:42 62
19:12 62

The last x63 is the only one that doesn't run onto a 62/63

Oh
I have had a think and I reckon the kinetics are for the 18 at Walkergate
Driver on the 4 has told me that East herrington wont have sunday or evening buses
(15 May 2016, 12:24 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote [ -> ]Driver on the 4 has told me that East herrington wont have sunday or evening buses



Services 5 and 5A:  Following contract changes, Monday to Saturday daytime buses are revised and will no longer serve the Docks area. Alternative facilities to this area of the city will be provided by another bus company. All buses will run as Service 5, serving East Herrington, and will no longer run to Doxford Park. Evening and Sunday buses, operated on behalf of Nexus, will continue to serve the Docks area, running clockwise as Service 5.These evening and Sunday buses will also serve Farringdon and the East Herrington area, improving direct links to the Royal Hospital during these times
(15 May 2016, 10:59 am)NK53 TKT wrote [ -> ]I have had a think and I reckon the kinetics are for the 18 at Walkergate

8 buses for a PVR of 4?
(15 May 2016, 2:24 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]8 buses for a PVR of 4?

Ah but there are six ALX300s and six could go here and two could transfer to Slatyford.
(15 May 2016, 2:24 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]8 buses for a PVR of 4?

The others to shields
(13 May 2016, 6:25 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]Nor will it be Hartlepool - Hartlepool are a midibus-only depot.

No reason why they have to always be. Didn't used to be. Would be better with bigger buses on the 1.
(15 May 2016, 2:37 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote [ -> ]The others to shields

Shields Doesn't need 4 Full Size Single Decker's though, 22067 and 22070 are in very good condition compared to Slatyfords examples, It will also benefit Stagecoach more to replace Slatyford's first id imagine.

(16 May 2016, 11:33 am)Cock Robin wrote [ -> ]No reason why they have to always be. Didn't used to be. Would be better with bigger buses on the 1.


I agree, The queue in Middlesbrough for the 1 is ridiculous every time I'm up there, Either bigger buses or the frequency needs to be doubled, Though the latter might need more buses than Hartlepool has.
Can't see them doubling the frequency as they already did that a few years back!
It would need a full timetable overhaul aswell as the High Tunstall - Seaton portion is every 10 minutes. If they were to look at upping the frequency, the logical step would be to put the Middlesbrough extension to every 20 minutes. I think the spare vehicle allocation would be able to cover the PVR increase on that also
22215 was route learning along ryhope road with 10 drivers are these route learning for the 18 and 19
(16 May 2016, 4:31 pm)beefcake wrote [ -> ]It would need a full timetable overhaul aswell as the High Tunstall - Seaton portion is every 10 minutes. If they were to look at upping the frequency, the logical step would be to put the Middlesbrough extension to every 20 minutes. I think the spare vehicle allocation would be able to cover the PVR increase on that also

The service pattern in Seaton is enough to give you a headache as it is with every 3rd bus (boro bound) going the opposite way around the loop.
I have to agree with you. Would make more sense in my opinion to renumber the Seaton only buses as the 1A or the 2 so passengers can differentiate
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