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dannygee



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18 Jan 2017, 8:15 pm #621
Heard few drivers from different companies talking and they said that from march the following is happening

W1,W1A,W2, W3 and 333 all getting operated by go north east instead of phoenix.

Dan is this true? If so what about the 59/359. I know some stuff was up for tender but i was surprised when i heard this from phoenix drivers.
dannygee
18 Jan 2017, 8:15 pm #621

Heard few drivers from different companies talking and they said that from march the following is happening

W1,W1A,W2, W3 and 333 all getting operated by go north east instead of phoenix.

Dan is this true? If so what about the 59/359. I know some stuff was up for tender but i was surprised when i heard this from phoenix drivers.

Tom



6,138
18 Jan 2017, 8:18 pm #622
(18 Jan 2017, 8:15 pm)dannygee Heard few drivers from different companies talking and they said that from march the following is happening

W1,W1A,W2, W3 and 333 all getting operated by go north east instead of phoenix.

Dan is this true? If so what about the 59/359. I know some stuff was up for tender but i was surprised when i heard this from phoenix drivers.

Seems odd - what have they got to operate it? Would make sense for the services to join the indiGo brand to be honest.
Tom
18 Jan 2017, 8:18 pm #622

(18 Jan 2017, 8:15 pm)dannygee Heard few drivers from different companies talking and they said that from march the following is happening

W1,W1A,W2, W3 and 333 all getting operated by go north east instead of phoenix.

Dan is this true? If so what about the 59/359. I know some stuff was up for tender but i was surprised when i heard this from phoenix drivers.

Seems odd - what have they got to operate it? Would make sense for the services to join the indiGo brand to be honest.

park5354



406
19 Jan 2017, 12:01 am #623
(18 Jan 2017, 8:18 pm)Tom Seems odd - what have they got to operate it? Would make sense for the services to join the indiGo brand to be honest.

637/8/9 will be surplus when 42A replaces 353.
park5354
19 Jan 2017, 12:01 am #623

(18 Jan 2017, 8:18 pm)Tom Seems odd - what have they got to operate it? Would make sense for the services to join the indiGo brand to be honest.

637/8/9 will be surplus when 42A replaces 353.

Tom



6,138
19 Jan 2017, 7:59 am #624
(19 Jan 2017, 12:01 am)park5354 637/8/9 will be surplus when 42A replaces 353.

But won't they have to be allocated to the 42/42A?
Tom
19 Jan 2017, 7:59 am #624

(19 Jan 2017, 12:01 am)park5354 637/8/9 will be surplus when 42A replaces 353.

But won't they have to be allocated to the 42/42A?

dannygee



339
19 Jan 2017, 9:20 am #625
Unless there are any more thames valley solos going to come up for them?
dannygee
19 Jan 2017, 9:20 am #625

Unless there are any more thames valley solos going to come up for them?

Michael



19,144
19 Jan 2017, 9:43 am #626
(19 Jan 2017, 9:20 am)dannygee Unless there are any more thames valley solos going to come up for them?

Only more Solo to arrive from Thames Travel and that's YJ59 NNH (697 in GNE fleet), but its the Optare Solo M880 model, not the SR. I think 697 will more likely go to Washington or Deptford as a spare - due to the fact they're the only depots with that model and due to Depot standardization however i maybe wrong. 


The PVR for the 353 is 2, so there would be 2 Solo's free, 1 which will probables go on the 42/42A, as for the other will go in to the new "Go North East" livery, and should be allocated to a secured service... although once again, it's speculation.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
19 Jan 2017, 9:43 am #626

(19 Jan 2017, 9:20 am)dannygee Unless there are any more thames valley solos going to come up for them?

Only more Solo to arrive from Thames Travel and that's YJ59 NNH (697 in GNE fleet), but its the Optare Solo M880 model, not the SR. I think 697 will more likely go to Washington or Deptford as a spare - due to the fact they're the only depots with that model and due to Depot standardization however i maybe wrong. 


The PVR for the 353 is 2, so there would be 2 Solo's free, 1 which will probables go on the 42/42A, as for the other will go in to the new "Go North East" livery, and should be allocated to a secured service... although once again, it's speculation.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

GuyParkRoyal



1,004
19 Jan 2017, 3:05 pm #627
Nexus are seeking tenders for South Tyneside and Sunderland services.
8, 39, 56A, 135 & 136 Evening and Sunday routes.
237, 238, 516, 592 & 593.
GuyParkRoyal
19 Jan 2017, 3:05 pm #627

Nexus are seeking tenders for South Tyneside and Sunderland services.
8, 39, 56A, 135 & 136 Evening and Sunday routes.
237, 238, 516, 592 & 593.

S813 FVK



6,030
19 Jan 2017, 3:53 pm #628
(19 Jan 2017, 9:43 am)Michael Only more Solo to arrive from Thames Travel and that's YJ59 NNH (697 in GNE fleet), but its the Optare Solo M880 model, not the SR. I think 697 will more likely go to Washington or Deptford as a spare - due to the fact they're the only depots with that model and due to Depot standardization however i maybe wrong. 

Washington don't need any more spares - 705 took that role
S813 FVK
19 Jan 2017, 3:53 pm #628

(19 Jan 2017, 9:43 am)Michael Only more Solo to arrive from Thames Travel and that's YJ59 NNH (697 in GNE fleet), but its the Optare Solo M880 model, not the SR. I think 697 will more likely go to Washington or Deptford as a spare - due to the fact they're the only depots with that model and due to Depot standardization however i maybe wrong. 

Washington don't need any more spares - 705 took that role

idiot



1,116
19 Jan 2017, 9:15 pm #629
56A what runs are secured? All evening and Sunday?
idiot
19 Jan 2017, 9:15 pm #629

56A what runs are secured? All evening and Sunday?

Michael



19,144
19 Jan 2017, 9:18 pm #630
(19 Jan 2017, 3:05 pm)GuyParkRoyal Nexus are seeking tenders for South Tyneside and Sunderland services.
8, 39, 56A, 135 & 136 Evening and Sunday routes.
237, 238, 516, 592 & 593.

Hopefully the contracts remain the same as now.

I thought the 238 was fully paid by "Go North East"?

Any idea when we will find out who's won them?
Edited 20 Jan 2017, 11:27 am by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
19 Jan 2017, 9:18 pm #630

(19 Jan 2017, 3:05 pm)GuyParkRoyal Nexus are seeking tenders for South Tyneside and Sunderland services.
8, 39, 56A, 135 & 136 Evening and Sunday routes.
237, 238, 516, 592 & 593.

Hopefully the contracts remain the same as now.

I thought the 238 was fully paid by "Go North East"?

Any idea when we will find out who's won them?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Tom



6,138
19 Jan 2017, 9:19 pm #631
(19 Jan 2017, 9:18 pm)Michael Hopefully the contracts remain the same as now.

Any idea when we will find out who's won them?

Think they will though I have a feeling the 516 might change. (GCT?)
Tom
19 Jan 2017, 9:19 pm #631

(19 Jan 2017, 9:18 pm)Michael Hopefully the contracts remain the same as now.

Any idea when we will find out who's won them?

Think they will though I have a feeling the 516 might change. (GCT?)

Dan

Site Administrator

18,100
20 Jan 2017, 11:08 am #632
(18 Jan 2017, 8:15 pm)dannygee Heard few drivers from different companies talking and they said that from march the following is happening

W1,W1A,W2, W3 and 333 all getting operated by go north east instead of phoenix.

Dan is this true? If so what about the 59/359. I know some stuff was up for tender but i was surprised when i heard this from phoenix drivers.

Go North East has been awarded services W1/W1A and 333, yes.

Nice to see the 333 being awarded to Go North East again. Who remembers this one?
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=468
Dan
20 Jan 2017, 11:08 am #632

(18 Jan 2017, 8:15 pm)dannygee Heard few drivers from different companies talking and they said that from march the following is happening

W1,W1A,W2, W3 and 333 all getting operated by go north east instead of phoenix.

Dan is this true? If so what about the 59/359. I know some stuff was up for tender but i was surprised when i heard this from phoenix drivers.

Go North East has been awarded services W1/W1A and 333, yes.

Nice to see the 333 being awarded to Go North East again. Who remembers this one?
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=468

Ds1197



506
20 Jan 2017, 11:45 am #633
(20 Jan 2017, 11:08 am)Dan Go North East has been awarded services W1/W1A and 333, yes.

Nice to see the 333 being awarded to Go North East again. Who remembers this one?
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=468

What will the allocations be?
Ds1197
20 Jan 2017, 11:45 am #633

(20 Jan 2017, 11:08 am)Dan Go North East has been awarded services W1/W1A and 333, yes.

Nice to see the 333 being awarded to Go North East again. Who remembers this one?
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=468

What will the allocations be?

Dan

Site Administrator

18,100
20 Jan 2017, 12:30 pm #634
(19 Jan 2017, 3:05 pm)GuyParkRoyal Nexus are seeking tenders for South Tyneside and Sunderland services.
8, 39, 56A, 135 & 136 Evening and Sunday routes.
237, 238, 516, 592 & 593.

As a handful of these have changed, it's worth sharing a bit more information about them.


Service 8

The contract for service 8 is for the Monday - Saturday evening service between The Docks, City Centre, High Barnes and South Hylton (from 18:54 onwards) as well as the Sunday daytime and evening operation of the service between the same locations.

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 39

The contract for service 39 is for the evening operation of the service (operated commercially by Go North East during the day).

Contractual requirements: 3x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 56A

The contract for service 56A is an early morning Saturday service designed to maintain early morning links between Sunderland and Washington. It is currently split up as the 05:03am #56 Sunderland to Concord, which interworks with the 05:39 #86 Concord to Washington Galleries. There are no changes to the timetable - it is just re-numbered 56A throughout.

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Services 135/136 (Early Morning Journeys)

The contract for the early morning journeys on services 135/136 is in response to Go North East's withdrawal of the daytime 99 service (so secured 99A journeys were re-numbered 135 or 136).

Contractual requirements: Mon-Fri 3x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23. Sat 2x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Services 237/238


There are no changes to the route for the daytime 238 service - commercially operated by Go North East from Sunderland to Houghton-le-Spring (via Seaham). The secured portion is what was previously operated by Compass Community Transport (as service 79) between Houghton-le-Spring and Barnwell during the day (as service 238) and from Queen Elizabeth Drive to Barnwell during the night (as service 237).

Contractual requirements: 2x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 16.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 516

No changes to route. Revised specification as below:

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 592

No changes to route. Revised specification as below:

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 593

No changes to route. Revised specification as below:

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
Dan
20 Jan 2017, 12:30 pm #634

(19 Jan 2017, 3:05 pm)GuyParkRoyal Nexus are seeking tenders for South Tyneside and Sunderland services.
8, 39, 56A, 135 & 136 Evening and Sunday routes.
237, 238, 516, 592 & 593.

As a handful of these have changed, it's worth sharing a bit more information about them.


Service 8

The contract for service 8 is for the Monday - Saturday evening service between The Docks, City Centre, High Barnes and South Hylton (from 18:54 onwards) as well as the Sunday daytime and evening operation of the service between the same locations.

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 39

The contract for service 39 is for the evening operation of the service (operated commercially by Go North East during the day).

Contractual requirements: 3x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 56A

The contract for service 56A is an early morning Saturday service designed to maintain early morning links between Sunderland and Washington. It is currently split up as the 05:03am #56 Sunderland to Concord, which interworks with the 05:39 #86 Concord to Washington Galleries. There are no changes to the timetable - it is just re-numbered 56A throughout.

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Services 135/136 (Early Morning Journeys)

The contract for the early morning journeys on services 135/136 is in response to Go North East's withdrawal of the daytime 99 service (so secured 99A journeys were re-numbered 135 or 136).

Contractual requirements: Mon-Fri 3x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23. Sat 2x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Services 237/238


There are no changes to the route for the daytime 238 service - commercially operated by Go North East from Sunderland to Houghton-le-Spring (via Seaham). The secured portion is what was previously operated by Compass Community Transport (as service 79) between Houghton-le-Spring and Barnwell during the day (as service 238) and from Queen Elizabeth Drive to Barnwell during the night (as service 237).

Contractual requirements: 2x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 16.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 516

No changes to route. Revised specification as below:

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 592

No changes to route. Revised specification as below:

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 593

No changes to route. Revised specification as below:

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018

Dan

Site Administrator

18,100
20 Jan 2017, 12:31 pm #635
(19 Jan 2017, 9:18 pm)Michael Hopefully the contracts remain the same as now.

I thought the 238 was fully paid by "Go North East"?

Any idea when we will find out who's won them?

re 238: See post above.

Invitation to tender commenced 17/01/2017
Deadline for responses is 27/02/2017
Award is announced mid-March 2017, with activity commencing 21/05/2017.
Dan
20 Jan 2017, 12:31 pm #635

(19 Jan 2017, 9:18 pm)Michael Hopefully the contracts remain the same as now.

I thought the 238 was fully paid by "Go North East"?

Any idea when we will find out who's won them?

re 238: See post above.

Invitation to tender commenced 17/01/2017
Deadline for responses is 27/02/2017
Award is announced mid-March 2017, with activity commencing 21/05/2017.

Tom



6,138
20 Jan 2017, 3:38 pm #636
(20 Jan 2017, 11:08 am)Dan Go North East has been awarded services W1/W1A and 333, yes.

Nice to see the 333 being awarded to Go North East again. Who remembers this one?
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=468

Any idea on the others?
Tom
20 Jan 2017, 3:38 pm #636

(20 Jan 2017, 11:08 am)Dan Go North East has been awarded services W1/W1A and 333, yes.

Nice to see the 333 being awarded to Go North East again. Who remembers this one?
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=468

Any idea on the others?

20 Jan 2017, 6:56 pm #637
(20 Jan 2017, 11:08 am)DanWho remembers this one? http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=468
I was only a month old when that bus started on the 333!
NK53 TKT
20 Jan 2017, 6:56 pm #637

(20 Jan 2017, 11:08 am)DanWho remembers this one? http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=468
I was only a month old when that bus started on the 333!

Andreos1



14,155
20 Jan 2017, 8:39 pm #638
(19 Jan 2017, 9:18 pm)Michael Hopefully the contracts remain the same as now.

I thought the 238 was fully paid by "Go North East"?

Any idea when we will find out who's won them?

That was my understanding too.

http://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/bus-ro...eld-region Press release from the time. Don't have any official documentation to hand to confirm either way.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
20 Jan 2017, 8:39 pm #638

(19 Jan 2017, 9:18 pm)Michael Hopefully the contracts remain the same as now.

I thought the 238 was fully paid by "Go North East"?

Any idea when we will find out who's won them?

That was my understanding too.

http://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/bus-ro...eld-region Press release from the time. Don't have any official documentation to hand to confirm either way.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Michael



19,144
20 Jan 2017, 8:49 pm #639
(20 Jan 2017, 12:30 pm)Dan As a handful of these have changed, it's worth sharing a bit more information about them.


Service 8

The contract for service 8 is for the Monday - Saturday evening service between The Docks, City Centre, High Barnes and South Hylton (from 18:54 onwards) as well as the Sunday daytime and evening operation of the service between the same locations.

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 39

The contract for service 39 is for the evening operation of the service (operated commercially by Go North East during the day).

Contractual requirements: 3x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 56A

The contract for service 56A is an early morning Saturday service designed to maintain early morning links between Sunderland and Washington. It is currently split up as the 05:03am #56 Sunderland to Concord, which interworks with the 05:39 #86 Concord to Washington Galleries. There are no changes to the timetable - it is just re-numbered 56A throughout.

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Services 135/136 (Early Morning Journeys)

The contract for the early morning journeys on services 135/136 is in response to Go North East's withdrawal of the daytime 99 service (so secured 99A journeys were re-numbered 135 or 136).

Contractual requirements: Mon-Fri 3x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23. Sat 2x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Services 237/238


There are no changes to the route for the daytime 238 service - commercially operated by Go North East from Sunderland to Houghton-le-Spring (via Seaham). The secured portion is what was previously operated by Compass Community Transport (as service 79) between Houghton-le-Spring and Barnwell during the day (as service 238) and from Queen Elizabeth Drive to Barnwell during the night (as service 237).

Contractual requirements: 2x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 16.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 516

No changes to route. Revised specification as below:

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 592

No changes to route. Revised specification as below:

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 593

No changes to route. Revised specification as below:

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018

Thanks Dan.

I'm hoping...


8 - Stagecoach 
39 - Go North East
56A - Go North East
135/136 - Go North East
237/238 - Go North East

516/592/593 - Not bothered as i don't use the services.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
20 Jan 2017, 8:49 pm #639

(20 Jan 2017, 12:30 pm)Dan As a handful of these have changed, it's worth sharing a bit more information about them.


Service 8

The contract for service 8 is for the Monday - Saturday evening service between The Docks, City Centre, High Barnes and South Hylton (from 18:54 onwards) as well as the Sunday daytime and evening operation of the service between the same locations.

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 39

The contract for service 39 is for the evening operation of the service (operated commercially by Go North East during the day).

Contractual requirements: 3x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 56A

The contract for service 56A is an early morning Saturday service designed to maintain early morning links between Sunderland and Washington. It is currently split up as the 05:03am #56 Sunderland to Concord, which interworks with the 05:39 #86 Concord to Washington Galleries. There are no changes to the timetable - it is just re-numbered 56A throughout.

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Services 135/136 (Early Morning Journeys)

The contract for the early morning journeys on services 135/136 is in response to Go North East's withdrawal of the daytime 99 service (so secured 99A journeys were re-numbered 135 or 136).

Contractual requirements: Mon-Fri 3x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23. Sat 2x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Services 237/238


There are no changes to the route for the daytime 238 service - commercially operated by Go North East from Sunderland to Houghton-le-Spring (via Seaham). The secured portion is what was previously operated by Compass Community Transport (as service 79) between Houghton-le-Spring and Barnwell during the day (as service 238) and from Queen Elizabeth Drive to Barnwell during the night (as service 237).

Contractual requirements: 2x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 16.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 516

No changes to route. Revised specification as below:

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 592

No changes to route. Revised specification as below:

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 593

No changes to route. Revised specification as below:

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018

Thanks Dan.

I'm hoping...


8 - Stagecoach 
39 - Go North East
56A - Go North East
135/136 - Go North East
237/238 - Go North East

516/592/593 - Not bothered as i don't use the services.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

tyresmoke



5,303
20 Jan 2017, 9:21 pm #640
Can't really see past GCT getting most of it
tyresmoke
20 Jan 2017, 9:21 pm #640

Can't really see past GCT getting most of it

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