27 back to 12 min service.——-26 newcastle,Gateshead interchange,deckham,qe hosp, leam lane estate,wardley,Moncton buissness park,finchale rd,Luke’s lane,Campbell park rd, station rd,argyle st,Black rd, Victoria rd east,jarrow bus station, then aspresent route to South Shields. run at 20 min intervals.

35 ( Heworth , Boldon , Town End Farm , Castletown Retail Park , Southwick , Sunderland Interchange , Grangetown , Ryhope Village , New Seaham , Seaham then direct to Peterlee )
first bus at 5.30am From Heworth arriving at Boldon for 5.41 at Cinema then Gets to sunderland interchange for 6:25 and departing at 6.28 then terminates at Peterlee bus station at 07:05.
X7 will instead run to Middlesborough every hour.

Dont take these too literally but a few wacky suggestions
5-operate additionally via Royal Quays
11-to be joined by 11A
11A-Whitley Bay-Metrocentre same as 11 to Howdon Road then operates via Sita then re-joins the 11 at Howdon,from Wallsend it then operates via Walker-St Peters Basin and the quayside then re-joins the 11 in Newcastle last journey to terminate in Newcastle services 11 and 11A to interwork in Newcastle,current 11A to be re-numbered 11B
11B-current 11A
43-Forest Hall-Wallsend via Freeman Hospital-Byker-St Peters Basin-Walker

N1 Northumberland park interchange - Holystone park - Palmerville metro - Clousden Hill - Killingworth village - East Bailey - West Bailey - West Moor - Quorum*
Will be operated on baby solo. * - only served during peak hours.
9A North Shields - Jarrow - Fellgate - Boldon - Sunderland. Basically old 9, needed a lot around Shields I've noticed.
9B Heworth - Boldon ASDA - Southwick - Sunderland. Will do sunderland he worth for 35 during daytimes.
35 Normal 35A operates on evening and sundays as normal.
9s will have new optare solos SR and will require 4. On top, 2 more mercs. Don't have a clue where to get from.

Extended 18

Tindale Crescent-Woodhouse Close-Bishop Auckland-Coundon-Shildon-Jubilee Estate

New 18A

Jubilee Estate-Shildon King William-Tindale Crescent-Woodhouse Close-Bishop Auckland

Both Interworking, running on a circleand links up Tindale Crescent with both Shildon and Coundon

Extended X21

Extend one X21 per hour to Shildon King William, which would give Shildon an hourly Service to Durham

I thought Murton was bad, but they have a decent service out of Dalton Park now, The service in Shildon is shocking...

Arrivas 1 aint too bad, bit the 5/5A is shocking at times, the X1 only serves the bottom of Shildon, and the only other service is the Scarlet Band 99 which only runs hourly to Spennymoor hourly on weekdays only till just before 6pm and the Sunday service is shocking...one 5A per hour and the 1ph 1B that only goes to the Hippodrome in Shildon

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(14 Mar 2018, 12:15 pm)MrFozz wrote Extended 18

Tindale Crescent-Woodhouse Close-Bishop Auckland-Coundon-Shildon-Jubilee Estate

New 18A

Jubilee Estate-Shildon King William-Tindale Crescent-Woodhouse Close-Bishop Auckland

Both Interworking, running on a circleand links up Tindale Crescent with both Shildon and Coundon

Extended X21

Extend one X21 per hour to Shildon King William, which would give Shildon an hourly Service to Durham

I thought Murton was bad, but they have a decent service out of Dalton Park now, The service in Shildon is shocking...

Arrivas 1 aint too bad, bit the 5/5A is shocking at times, the X1 only serves the bottom of Shildon, and the only other service is the Scarlet Band 99 which only runs hourly to Spennymoor hourly on weekdays only till just before 6pm and the Sunday service is shocking...one 5A per hour and the 1ph 1B that only goes to the Hippodrome in Shildon

Think the location of Shildon itself and the areas around it would make it difficult to sustain much more services than it already has, think its declined massively over the last few years as it seems the way people shop has changed and then there's the fact Bishop Auckland Town Centre is becoming a ghost town since Tindle Crescent popped up plus Newton Aycliffe and  Spennymoor are hardly go to place's either. As Tindle Crescent is thriving, perhaps more services via this area could be a good move.

I have to agree about the 5/5A, always seems to be late by Cabin Gate and unlike the 1, there isn't really anywhere to make up time until you get towards Aycliffe Industrial Estate and Darlington.

(14 Mar 2018, 12:15 pm)MrFozz wrote Extended 18

Tindale Crescent-Woodhouse Close-Bishop Auckland-Coundon-Shildon-Jubilee Estate

New 18A

Jubilee Estate-Shildon King William-Tindale Crescent-Woodhouse Close-Bishop Auckland

Both Interworking, running on a circleand links up Tindale Crescent with both Shildon and Coundon

Extended X21

Extend one X21 per hour to Shildon King William, which would give Shildon an hourly Service to Durham

I thought Murton was bad, but they have a decent service out of Dalton Park now, The service in Shildon is shocking...

Arrivas 1 aint too bad, bit the 5/5A is shocking at times, the X1 only serves the bottom of Shildon, and the only other service is the Scarlet Band 99 which only runs hourly to Spennymoor hourly on weekdays only till just before 6pm and the Sunday service is shocking...one 5A per hour and the 1ph 1B that only goes to the Hippodrome in Shildon

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Shocking

You need a revolutionary fighting force Fozz, that fights an annoying, but concerted battle against operators.
Like the one that exists in a small village just outside Houghton.

It may just be pure coincidence, but destinations and service levels are at a standard not seen for a long time (even if some of those locations are a tad obscure and run-offs are still too early).
The village is also a purple Solar free zone these days (to be honest, even when allocated to the 20A/X20, they were so often missing, it was almost a purple Solar free zone then too...).

Keep at it Fozz and get the people of Shildon a service they deserve.

(14 Mar 2018, 12:39 pm)Jimmi wrote Think the location of Shildon itself and the areas around it would make it difficult to sustain much more services than it already has, think its declined massively over the last few years as it seems the way people shop has changed and then there's the fact Bishop Auckland Town Centre is becoming a ghost town since Tindle Crescent popped up plus Newton Aycliffe and  Spennymoor are hardly go to place's either. As Tindle Crescent is thriving, perhaps more services via this area could be a good move.

I have to agree about the 5/5A, always seems to be late by Cabin Gate and unlike the 1, there isn't really anywhere to make up time until you get towards Aycliffe Industrial Estate and Darlington.

I agree Jimmi, but I feel Shildon could do with a bit competition, thats what de-regulation was meant to achieve in the 1st place...

Arriva seem to be complacent, I feel a shake up is needed, and if GNE could enter, either by extending the 18 or my X21 idea, it may make them sit up and take notice

(14 Mar 2018, 1:04 pm)Andreos1 wrote Shocking

You need a revolutionary fighting force Fozz, that fights an annoying, but concerted battle against operators.
Like the one that exists in a small village just outside Houghton.

It may just be pure coincidence, but destinations and service levels are at a standard not seen for a long time (even if some of those locations are a tad obscure and run-offs are still too early).
The village is also a purple Solar free zone these days (to be honest, even when allocated to the 20A/X20, they were so often missing, it was almost a purple Solar free zone then too...).

Keep at it Fozz and get the people of Shildon a service they deserve.

The Shildon Revolutionary Front...

Watch this space lol

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(14 Mar 2018, 6:21 pm)MrFozz wrote I agree Jimmi, but I feel Shildon could do with a bit competition, thats what de-regulation was meant to achieve in the 1st place...

Arriva seem to be complacent, I feel a shake up is needed, and if GNE could enter, either by extending the 18 or my X21 idea, it may make them sit up and take notice


The Shildon Revolutionary Front...

Watch this space lol

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I dunno. What about the Shildon Action Society? An acronynm to spread fear amongst people across the world.

Appreciate this isnt the ANE suggestion thread and I'm not too familar with the ins and outs of services in that area, but pretty sure there could be some scope to merge a Darlo - Bishop service with a Bishop - Durham one.
Granted it would be an indirect link between Darlo and Durham, but it could be one that improved a number of connections/links.

5a merges with a variation of the short 6 perhaps?
The 56 gets extended to Shildon at the expense of a 5, that just does a loop and heads back to Darlington?

(15 Mar 2018, 1:10 pm)Andreos1 wrote I dunno. What about the Shildon Action Society? An acronynm to spread fear amongst people across the world.

Appreciate this isnt the ANE suggestion thread and I'm not too familar with the ins and outs of services in that area, but pretty sure there could be some scope to merge a Darlo - Bishop service with a Bishop - Durham one.
Granted it would be an indirect link between Darlo and Durham, but it could be one that improved a number of connections/links.

5a merges with a variation of the short 6 perhaps?
The 56 gets extended to Shildon at the expense of a 5, that just does a loop and heads back to Darlington?

The 5/5A did replace the 6 and ran Darlington - Bishop Auckland - Durham a few years back but didn't last long, unfortunately with how successful Tindle Crescent is, I can't see Arriva reversing this decision because of the through links it creates  I am told that quite a few so actually jump off the 1/5/5A/X1 at Bishop Auckland Bus Station then jump onto a 6 or X21, so this could actually be something that GNE could try, only downsides are,  you would probably have to split the registrations if you extended the X21 any further than Bishop Auckland and then there's the extra resources that would be required.

(15 Mar 2018, 1:49 pm)Jimmi wrote The 5/5A did replace the 6 and ran Darlington - Bishop Auckland - Durham a few years back but didn't last long, unfortunately with how successful Tindle Crescent is, I can't see Arriva reversing this decision because of the through links it creates  I am told that quite a few so actually jump off the 1/5/5A/X1 at Bishop Auckland Bus Station then jump onto a 6 or X21, so this could actually be something that GNE could try, only downsides are,  you would probably have to split the registrations if you extended the X21 any further than Bishop Auckland and then there's the extra resources that would be required.

With a bit of tinkering, it could be possible to have the 6 serve Bishop, Tindale Cres and Shildon.
Have it operate out of Bishop via the hospital, towards Tindale along the old road, out along new road towards Shildon and anti-clockwise loop towards Bishop.
Have the 5 operate the clockwise loop and you have a happy Fozz.
One bus to Durham, a quick bus to Bishop and all current links maintained (I think).

No idea how it would work on paper like. Even though in my head, it would work like a charm.

42/A to additionaĺly serve Four Lane Ends,restore lost links previously served by the 353 and 322

33/33A - Sunderland City Centre - Grangetown - Hollycarrside - Ryhope - Silksworth - Royal Hospital - Clanny House - City Campus - Sunderland City Centre - Stadium of Light - St Peter's Campus - The Docks - Sunderland City Centre

• Merge of existing services 2/2A between Sunderland City Centre and Silksworth with services 33/33A and 700, this will provide a number of new connections across Sunderland at a frequency of Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday daytimes and Every 20 Minutes on Sundays.
  

2 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Harlow Green - Wrekenton - Birtley - Portobello - Rickleton - Harraton - Ayton - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Biddick - Fatfield - Barnwell - Hastings Hill - Grindon - Royal Hospital - Sunderland

• Merge of services 1 between Newcastle and Wrekenton extending to Birtley to merge with service 82 to Washington before further extending to Sunderland via the route of the 2, The revised service would operate Every 15 Minutes between Sunderland and Newcastle Monday to Saturdays and Every 30 Minutes on Sundays.
  
  
• Service 1 revised to operate between Newcastle and Whitley Bay only on current frequency.
  

83 - Heworth - Donwell - Concord - Spout Lane - Barmston Village - Washington Village - Glebe - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - Blackfell - Concord

84 - Concord - Barmston - Waskerley Road - Barmston Court - Brady Square - Biddick - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - Blackfell - Concord

• Merge of services 83/84 at Concord with Services 85/86 operating Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturdays and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday.
  

Not a fan of revising 1 between Newcastle and Whitley. Key cross city route which cannot be replaced the way i see it

1B Whitley Bay - North Shields - Wallsend - Newcastle - Gateshead - Lobley Hill - Whickham. Will operate one of the short coasters once and hour and does 1 route an hour. It'll follow one 97A from NCL onwards to Wickham. 97A will still operate on the same route on a hourly basis. Both still on the same hours and 1B will require a extra bus i'd imagine (Probs 6116 or 17)
97B Newcastle - Gateshead - Low fell - Team Valley south - Kibblesworth - Sunniside - Lobley hill - Dunston - Metrocentre. Will operate once an hour. 28B and 29 times revised to bring a service Kibblesworth to Gateshead every 20 min. The extra vehicles used on 97A to be transferred to 97B.

26 Newcastle, Gateshead,sheriff hill qe hosp,felling sq,heworth,pelaw,bill quay,Victoria rd West,burn heads rd, Crawley Ave,mill lane,finch ale rd,Luke’s lane est,Campbell park rd, Hebburn metro,hebburn quay area,black rd,,clock,jarrow bus station then route as now to South Shields.—-27 back to a full 12 min service to South Shields.—-9 murton ,Sunderland jarrow, North Shields. The Hebburn part of the route ,will be mostly covered by service 26.

A nice service set would be 39/39A
39
Wallsend
Howdon
Tyne tunnel trading estate
Silverlink
A19
East cramlington
High pit
Cramlington railway station(hourly,all evening runs and sundays Wallsend to cramlington runs only)
Cramlington shops
Every half hour monday to saturday and hourly sunday

39A
North shields
Percy main
Tyne tunnel trading estate
Silverlink
A19
East cramlington
High pit
Cramlington railway station(hourly,all evening runs and sundays North shields to cramlington only)
Cramlington shops
Every half hour monday to saturday and hourly sunday


Monday to saturday 39 and 39As will swich at cramlington and sundays will stay the same.

It would mean fast buses between north shields/wallsend to cramlington

57 - Sent to coast road - silver link - cobalt and maybe even northumberland park interchange via west allotment.
42,42A and the 310 sent around hadrian park intead of 57

(23 Mar 2018, 5:29 pm)JM03 wrote 57 - Sent to coast road - silver link - cobalt and maybe even northumberland park interchange via west allotment.
42,42A and the 310 sent around hadrian park intead of 57

42/42a dont need go round

Some more new service suggestions for percy main depot

Service 30
Blyth
Seaton sluice
Whitley bay
Cullercoats
Tynemouth
North Shields
Percy main
Howdon
Wallsend
Walkergate metro
Byker
Newcastle citycentre
Gateshead
Every 20 minutes monday to saturday
Every half hour sunday
Another note 309s and 30s switch at blyth on sundays

Service X30
Blyth
Whitley bay
Tynemouth
North shields
Percy main redburn
Wallsend
Byker
Pilgrim street
Central station
Metrocentre
Hourly and serves on sundays and bank holidays only

Service 2
Blyth
Seaton sluice
Whitley bay
Cullercoats
Tynemouth
Fish quay
North shields ferry
North Shields
Percy main 
Howdon
Wallsend
Byker
Newcastle
Central station
Every 20 mins every day of the week

(25 Mar 2018, 11:28 am)GNE6312 wrote Some more new service suggestions for percy main depot

Service 30
Blyth
Seaton sluice
Whitley bay
Cullercoats
Tynemouth
North Shields
Percy main
Howdon
Wallsend
Walkergate metro
Byker
Newcastle citycentre
Gateshead
Every 20 minutes monday to saturday
Every half hour sunday
Another note 309s and 30s switch at blyth on sundays

Service X30
Blyth
Whitley bay
Tynemouth
North shields
Percy main redburn
Wallsend
Byker
Pilgrim street
Central station
Metrocentre
Hourly and serves on sundays and bank holidays only

Service 2
Blyth
Seaton sluice
Whitley bay
Cullercoats
Tynemouth
Fish quay
North shields ferry
North Shields
Percy main 
Howdon
Wallsend
Byker
Newcastle
Central station
Every 20 mins every day of the week

Service 2 and 30 already exist

43: Newcastle - Teams - Metrocentre - Lemington - Throckley.
44: Gateshead - Teams - Metrocentre - Lemmington - Throckley.
Both Hourly.
64 - Withdrawn
X66 - Set to Every 15 mins and NON Stop to Metrocentre.
Throckley to have new routes going direct to Metrocentre. 
Also new link to Gateshead.

(25 Mar 2018, 6:37 pm)S830OFT wrote 43: Newcastle - Teams - Metrocentre - Lemington - Throckley.
44: Gateshead - Teams - Metrocentre - Lemmington - Throckley.
Both Hourly.
64 - Withdrawn
X66 - Set to Every 15 mins and NON Stop to Metrocentre.
Throckley to have new routes going direct to Metrocentre. 
Also new link to Gateshead.

Would love the X66 to revert back to what it was intended to be, non stop express Gateshead - Metrocentre

(25 Mar 2018, 7:43 pm)ifm001 wrote Would love the X66 to revert back to what it was intended to be, non stop express Gateshead - Metrocentre

Me too,not much of an express now,they may aswell drop the 'X' off it anf just have it run as the 66 instead

(26 Mar 2018, 1:19 pm)V514DFT wrote Me too,not much of an express now,they may aswell drop the 'X' off it anf just have it run as the 66 instead

Yeah GNE advised it was to provide a link between Teams/Dunston and Gateshead.

in that case journeys towards Gateshead should be pick up only at stops in between, and journeys towards metro centre should be set down only.

there is enough services available to provide journeys to and from Metrocentre to the 4 stops inbetween.

(26 Mar 2018, 1:49 pm)ifm001 wrote Yeah GNE advised it was to provide a link between Teams/Dunston and Gateshead.

in that case journeys towards Gateshead should be pick up only at stops in between, and journeys towards metro centre should be set down only.

there is enough services available to provide journeys to and from Metrocentre to the 4 stops inbetween.

Agreed

22 Newcastle - Dunston - Metrocentre - Lemington - West Denton park - Throckley - Black callerton - Newcastle airport - Hazelrigg - Killingworth
Operated on 3 new streetlites with USB, next stop announcement and luggage racks. Will receive 'flyer' branding. Makes new connections between Metrocentre, Throckley and to Newcastle airport.

I’d rethink the number, given there’s already a 22 in Throckley!

75-Newcastle-RVI--General Hospital-Wesgate Road(West Road)-West Denton-Chapel House-Westerhope-Callerton Parkway-Newcastle Airport-Ponteland-Darras Hall

(28 Mar 2018, 7:18 pm)JM03 wrote 22 Newcastle - Dunston - Metrocentre - Lemington - West Denton park - Throckley - Black callerton - Newcastle airport - Hazelrigg - Killingworth
Operated on 3 new streetlites with USB, next stop announcement and luggage racks. Will receive 'flyer' branding. Makes new connections between Metrocentre, Throckley and to Newcastle airport.

Don't you think if there was a need to supply the airport - which is an international gateway - there would already be extensive connections to the airport, as seen in other international city airports?
I think the metro/taxis/car have a monopoly on trips to our airport and I think buses would just be carrying thin-air to and fro the airport. The only two buses I know of that go to or near the airport are solos.
131 - Solo, infrequent
42A - Solo, every 30 mins
74 (not even to the airport itself) - infrequent

Food for thought.

(26 Mar 2018, 1:49 pm)ifm001 wrote Yeah GNE advised it was to provide a link between Teams/Dunston and Gateshead.

in that case journeys towards Gateshead should be pick up only at stops in between, and journeys towards metro centre should be set down only.

there is enough services available to provide journeys to and from Metrocentre to the 4 stops inbetween.

This would cause chaos. Buses that go past stops should either stop consistently at stops or not at all - by that I mean either direction, the journey should be pretty much identical. It would be exceptionally hard to serve a public notice explaining the system to all concerned. Practicality over desire. I think the current system works well enough, it's doesn't ever take long to get one end to the other, even stopping every stop, you're only cutting off about 5 minutes out of your day.

(25 Mar 2018, 6:37 pm)S830OFT wrote 43: Newcastle - Teams - Metrocentre - Lemington - Throckley.
44: Gateshead - Teams - Metrocentre - Lemmington - Throckley.
Both Hourly.
64 - Withdrawn
X66 - Set to Every 15 mins and NON Stop to Metrocentre.
Throckley to have new routes going direct to Metrocentre. 
Also new link to Gateshead.

Maybe the 64 could be digested into one of the 49 routes..
49D anyone?