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Michael



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22 May 2018, 9:07 pm #141
(22 May 2018, 9:02 pm)Malarkey I would gather Go North East has gained some further Nexus and DCC Contracts to be announced which require use of a minibus.

Aye, hopefully should end some of the temporary allocations too.

3 new Solo's should be arriving soon too for the Chester 700's and the Durham cathedral routes.
Edited 22 May 2018, 9:16 pm by Michael.

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Michael
22 May 2018, 9:07 pm #141

(22 May 2018, 9:02 pm)Malarkey I would gather Go North East has gained some further Nexus and DCC Contracts to be announced which require use of a minibus.

Aye, hopefully should end some of the temporary allocations too.

3 new Solo's should be arriving soon too for the Chester 700's and the Durham cathedral routes.


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22 May 2018, 9:28 pm #142
Well Cobra has had 8 Optare Solo SRs according to Bus Lists on the Web, however only one unaccounted for is KY63VTC, the other 6 vehicles are either with Diamond Bus or Courtney Buses.

It's possible that numbers 715 - 717 are reserved for the ones that are currently on order. I'm sure someone will explain what is happening.
Edited 22 May 2018, 9:35 pm by Rapidsnap.

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Rapidsnap
22 May 2018, 9:28 pm #142

Well Cobra has had 8 Optare Solo SRs according to Bus Lists on the Web, however only one unaccounted for is KY63VTC, the other 6 vehicles are either with Diamond Bus or Courtney Buses.

It's possible that numbers 715 - 717 are reserved for the ones that are currently on order. I'm sure someone will explain what is happening.


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23 May 2018, 9:41 am #143
Don’t know if it’s been mentioned but streetlite 5419 looks like it’s has recently been painted into corporate livery from its Beamish livery
Olympian3521
23 May 2018, 9:41 am #143

Don’t know if it’s been mentioned but streetlite 5419 looks like it’s has recently been painted into corporate livery from its Beamish livery

JP6004



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23 May 2018, 10:09 am #144
(22 May 2018, 7:55 pm)Rapidsnap Not seen in mentioned but I've seen on my Flickr feed a photo by Andrew Tyldsley annoucning  the arrival of Optare Solo SR number 722 (KY63VTA) which was new to Cobra Corporate Services, Isleworth.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/apt358/41383495935

718 and 722 arrived according to GNE website
JP6004
23 May 2018, 10:09 am #144

(22 May 2018, 7:55 pm)Rapidsnap Not seen in mentioned but I've seen on my Flickr feed a photo by Andrew Tyldsley annoucning  the arrival of Optare Solo SR number 722 (KY63VTA) which was new to Cobra Corporate Services, Isleworth.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/apt358/41383495935

718 and 722 arrived according to GNE website

23 May 2018, 3:59 pm #145
I do wonder if the 3 new baby Optare Solos on order have already been allocated numbers 715 - 717.

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Rapidsnap
23 May 2018, 3:59 pm #145

I do wonder if the 3 new baby Optare Solos on order have already been allocated numbers 715 - 717.


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Jamie M

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23 May 2018, 5:57 pm #146
(23 May 2018, 3:59 pm)Rapidsnap I do wonder if the 3 new baby Optare Solos on order have already been allocated numbers 715 - 717.
I think they should have been given a different number from the start to show difference in size.

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Jamie M
23 May 2018, 5:57 pm #146

(23 May 2018, 3:59 pm)Rapidsnap I do wonder if the 3 new baby Optare Solos on order have already been allocated numbers 715 - 717.
I think they should have been given a different number from the start to show difference in size.

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Jamie M

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23 May 2018, 9:18 pm #147
Hope neebody is trying to travel to or from Pelaw tonight, there's a short notice closure on the whole of the Heworth Interchange.

27: Hebburn, Mill Lane, A194, Leam Lane, Meresyde (Like Q2 onwards), Grange Cresent, High Lanes, High Heworth Lane, Heworth Interchange

(35A, X10), 4: (A184), Lingey Lane, Meresyde and as above.

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Jamie M
23 May 2018, 9:18 pm #147

Hope neebody is trying to travel to or from Pelaw tonight, there's a short notice closure on the whole of the Heworth Interchange.

27: Hebburn, Mill Lane, A194, Leam Lane, Meresyde (Like Q2 onwards), Grange Cresent, High Lanes, High Heworth Lane, Heworth Interchange

(35A, X10), 4: (A184), Lingey Lane, Meresyde and as above.

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24 May 2018, 8:13 am #148
[quote="Jamie M" pid='217499' dateline='1527110323']
Hope neebody is trying to travel to or from Pelaw tonight,  there's a short notice closure on the whole of the Heworth Interchange.

27: Hebburn, Mill Lane, A194, Leam Lane, Meresyde (Like Q2 onwards), Grange Cresent, High Lanes, High Heworth Lane, Heworth Interchange

(35A, X10), 4: (A184), Lingey Lane, Meresyde and as above.

I think this has been planned for last few weeks. The roundabout is closed overnight Monday to Friday to start the final resurfacing and to draw in line etc. Wasn't supposed to finish until end of July so this would have happened eventually but they're trying to get it all sorted for June
MattRut21
24 May 2018, 8:13 am #148

[quote="Jamie M" pid='217499' dateline='1527110323']
Hope neebody is trying to travel to or from Pelaw tonight,  there's a short notice closure on the whole of the Heworth Interchange.

27: Hebburn, Mill Lane, A194, Leam Lane, Meresyde (Like Q2 onwards), Grange Cresent, High Lanes, High Heworth Lane, Heworth Interchange

(35A, X10), 4: (A184), Lingey Lane, Meresyde and as above.

I think this has been planned for last few weeks. The roundabout is closed overnight Monday to Friday to start the final resurfacing and to draw in line etc. Wasn't supposed to finish until end of July so this would have happened eventually but they're trying to get it all sorted for June

Andreos1



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24 May 2018, 8:27 am #149
(24 May 2018, 8:13 am)MattRut21 [quote="Jamie M" pid='217499' dateline='1527110323']
Hope neebody is trying to travel to or from Pelaw tonight,  there's a short notice closure on the whole of the Heworth Interchange.

27: Hebburn, Mill Lane, A194, Leam Lane, Meresyde (Like Q2 onwards), Grange Cresent, High Lanes, High Heworth Lane, Heworth Interchange

(35A, X10), 4: (A184), Lingey Lane, Meresyde and as above.

I think this has been planned for last few weeks. The roundabout is closed overnight Monday to Friday to start the final resurfacing and to draw in line etc. Wasn't supposed to finish until end of July so this would have happened eventually but they're trying to get it all sorted for June

The Chronicle ran a story about the overnight closure two weeks ago.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...d-14636728

Certainly planned.

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Andreos1
24 May 2018, 8:27 am #149

(24 May 2018, 8:13 am)MattRut21 [quote="Jamie M" pid='217499' dateline='1527110323']
Hope neebody is trying to travel to or from Pelaw tonight,  there's a short notice closure on the whole of the Heworth Interchange.

27: Hebburn, Mill Lane, A194, Leam Lane, Meresyde (Like Q2 onwards), Grange Cresent, High Lanes, High Heworth Lane, Heworth Interchange

(35A, X10), 4: (A184), Lingey Lane, Meresyde and as above.

I think this has been planned for last few weeks. The roundabout is closed overnight Monday to Friday to start the final resurfacing and to draw in line etc. Wasn't supposed to finish until end of July so this would have happened eventually but they're trying to get it all sorted for June

The Chronicle ran a story about the overnight closure two weeks ago.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...d-14636728

Certainly planned.


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Jamie M

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24 May 2018, 9:47 am #150
(24 May 2018, 8:27 am)Andreos1 The Chronicle ran a story about the overnight closure two weeks ago.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...d-14636728

Certainly planned.
No info at the stops or at Heworth, or Gateshead, or on buses. It's all well and good writing news articles about it, but what's the use if there's no direct info to passengers? I'm not a chronicle reader and I had literally no idea it was happening until I got diverted off. Car drivers were backed all the way to the Stadium too. It's by all means short notice in real life.

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Jamie M
24 May 2018, 9:47 am #150

(24 May 2018, 8:27 am)Andreos1 The Chronicle ran a story about the overnight closure two weeks ago.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...d-14636728

Certainly planned.
No info at the stops or at Heworth, or Gateshead, or on buses. It's all well and good writing news articles about it, but what's the use if there's no direct info to passengers? I'm not a chronicle reader and I had literally no idea it was happening until I got diverted off. Car drivers were backed all the way to the Stadium too. It's by all means short notice in real life.

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Andreos1



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24 May 2018, 10:03 am #151
(24 May 2018, 9:47 am)Jamie M No info at the stops or at Heworth, or Gateshead, or on buses. It's all well and good writing news articles about it, but what's the use if there's no direct info to passengers? I'm not a chronicle reader and I had literally no idea it was happening until I got diverted off. Car drivers were backed all the way to the Stadium too. It's by all means short notice in real life.

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It's on the Nexus website - so that would suggest they knew about it in advance.
It's on the GNE website - so that would suggest they knew about it advance too.

Last night wasnt the first night of closures according to all three sources.

Then there are the signs by the side of the road.
Edited 24 May 2018, 10:05 am by Andreos1.

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Andreos1
24 May 2018, 10:03 am #151

(24 May 2018, 9:47 am)Jamie M No info at the stops or at Heworth, or Gateshead, or on buses. It's all well and good writing news articles about it, but what's the use if there's no direct info to passengers? I'm not a chronicle reader and I had literally no idea it was happening until I got diverted off. Car drivers were backed all the way to the Stadium too. It's by all means short notice in real life.

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It's on the Nexus website - so that would suggest they knew about it in advance.
It's on the GNE website - so that would suggest they knew about it advance too.

Last night wasnt the first night of closures according to all three sources.

Then there are the signs by the side of the road.


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Jamie M

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24 May 2018, 11:04 am #152
(24 May 2018, 10:03 am)Andreos1 It's on the Nexus website - so that would suggest they knew about it in advance.
It's on the GNE website - so that would suggest they knew about it advance too.

Last night wasnt the first night of closures according to all three sources.

Then there are the signs by the side of the road.
I didn't see any the night before, must be becoming blind in my not-very-old-age >.>


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Jamie M
24 May 2018, 11:04 am #152

(24 May 2018, 10:03 am)Andreos1 It's on the Nexus website - so that would suggest they knew about it in advance.
It's on the GNE website - so that would suggest they knew about it advance too.

Last night wasnt the first night of closures according to all three sources.

Then there are the signs by the side of the road.
I didn't see any the night before, must be becoming blind in my not-very-old-age >.>


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Ds1197



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24 May 2018, 11:36 am #153
(24 May 2018, 11:04 am)Jamie M I didn't see any the night before, must be becoming blind in my not-very-old-age >.>


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https://www.gateshead.gov.uk/article/489...Roundabout been on here for a couple of weeks
Ds1197
24 May 2018, 11:36 am #153

(24 May 2018, 11:04 am)Jamie M I didn't see any the night before, must be becoming blind in my not-very-old-age >.>


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https://www.gateshead.gov.uk/article/489...Roundabout been on here for a couple of weeks

Andreos1



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24 May 2018, 11:39 am #154
(24 May 2018, 11:04 am)Jamie M I didn't see any the night before, must be becoming blind in my not-very-old-age >.>


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Big, led/matrix signs by the side of the road. Can't miss 'em...

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Andreos1
24 May 2018, 11:39 am #154

(24 May 2018, 11:04 am)Jamie M I didn't see any the night before, must be becoming blind in my not-very-old-age >.>


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Big, led/matrix signs by the side of the road. Can't miss 'em...


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Jamie M

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24 May 2018, 1:04 pm #155
Moving swiftly on, currently on a few routes and buses are the new displays present at Stanley.
- 5451 & 62 plate B9TLs on X31, X30, X70, X71, 6, 6A and Short M6 to Crookgate only
- Most buses for short M6 to crookgate only (for Sunday and 2 evening runs)

When are the rest of them planned to be migrated over for all routes?
When is Stanley also going to be following the shift-oriented boards for drivers, rather than the old bus boards? I believe Stanley's now the only depot that operates in this format.
Jamie M
24 May 2018, 1:04 pm #155

Moving swiftly on, currently on a few routes and buses are the new displays present at Stanley.
- 5451 & 62 plate B9TLs on X31, X30, X70, X71, 6, 6A and Short M6 to Crookgate only
- Most buses for short M6 to crookgate only (for Sunday and 2 evening runs)

When are the rest of them planned to be migrated over for all routes?
When is Stanley also going to be following the shift-oriented boards for drivers, rather than the old bus boards? I believe Stanley's now the only depot that operates in this format.

Dan

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24 May 2018, 1:47 pm #156
(22 May 2018, 9:02 pm)Malarkey I would gather Go North East has gained some further Nexus and DCC Contracts to be announced which require use of a minibus.

Not forgetting that there is a current "shortage" of minibuses - the Byker ASDA "free bus" contract is currently operating with a Solo instead of an MPD (meaning that Riverside are short of a spare minibus, with 4899 having taken the MPD's place until it is withdrawn tomorrow), service 18 is operating with Optare Versas opposed to Solos, and three boards on services X6/X7 are operating with Scania L94s opposed to Solos.

(23 May 2018, 3:59 pm)Rapidsnap I do wonder if the 3 new baby Optare Solos on order have already been allocated numbers 715 - 717.

Yes - fleet numbers 715 - 717 had already been allocated to the three new Solos on delivery from Optare, with this batch of pre-owned Solos being allocated fleet numbers 718 and higher.

(24 May 2018, 1:04 pm)Jamie M Moving swiftly on, currently on a few routes and buses are the new displays present at Stanley.
- 5451 & 62 plate B9TLs on X31, X30, X70, X71, 6, 6A and Short M6 to Crookgate only
- Most buses for short M6 to crookgate only (for Sunday and 2 evening runs)

When are the rest of them planned to be migrated over for all routes?

I wouldn't expect to see any changes to the destination lists now before July.

There's a couple of things in the pipeline, but a lot of what is being done isn't possible just yet (some firmware upgrades are required on each controller). This is currently being tested prior to being rolled out fleet-wide.

The larger terminal point only destinations actually take up more memory than a 'standard' display, and this is proving troublesome on the controllers on some older buses at Riverside, where the database is now quite some size. Go North East have also carried out some research into the display types, which may mean that further routes aren't converted to the large terminal point only display.
Dan
24 May 2018, 1:47 pm #156

(22 May 2018, 9:02 pm)Malarkey I would gather Go North East has gained some further Nexus and DCC Contracts to be announced which require use of a minibus.

Not forgetting that there is a current "shortage" of minibuses - the Byker ASDA "free bus" contract is currently operating with a Solo instead of an MPD (meaning that Riverside are short of a spare minibus, with 4899 having taken the MPD's place until it is withdrawn tomorrow), service 18 is operating with Optare Versas opposed to Solos, and three boards on services X6/X7 are operating with Scania L94s opposed to Solos.

(23 May 2018, 3:59 pm)Rapidsnap I do wonder if the 3 new baby Optare Solos on order have already been allocated numbers 715 - 717.

Yes - fleet numbers 715 - 717 had already been allocated to the three new Solos on delivery from Optare, with this batch of pre-owned Solos being allocated fleet numbers 718 and higher.

(24 May 2018, 1:04 pm)Jamie M Moving swiftly on, currently on a few routes and buses are the new displays present at Stanley.
- 5451 & 62 plate B9TLs on X31, X30, X70, X71, 6, 6A and Short M6 to Crookgate only
- Most buses for short M6 to crookgate only (for Sunday and 2 evening runs)

When are the rest of them planned to be migrated over for all routes?

I wouldn't expect to see any changes to the destination lists now before July.

There's a couple of things in the pipeline, but a lot of what is being done isn't possible just yet (some firmware upgrades are required on each controller). This is currently being tested prior to being rolled out fleet-wide.

The larger terminal point only destinations actually take up more memory than a 'standard' display, and this is proving troublesome on the controllers on some older buses at Riverside, where the database is now quite some size. Go North East have also carried out some research into the display types, which may mean that further routes aren't converted to the large terminal point only display.

Jamie M

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24 May 2018, 1:49 pm #157
(24 May 2018, 1:47 pm)Dan Not forgetting that there is a current "shortage" of minibuses - the Byker ASDA "free bus" contract is currently operating with a Solo instead of an MPD (meaning that Riverside are short of a spare minibus, with 4899 having taken the MPD's place until it is withdrawn tomorrow), service 18 is operating with Optare Versas opposed to Solos, and three boards on services X6/X7 are operating with Scania L94s opposed to Solos.


Yes - fleet numbers 715 - 717 had already been allocated to the three new Solos on delivery from Optare, with this batch of pre-owned Solos being allocated fleet numbers 718 and higher.


I wouldn't expect to see any changes to the destination lists now before July.

There's a couple of things in the pipeline, but a lot of what is being done isn't possible just yet (some firmware upgrades are required on each controller). This is currently being tested prior to being rolled out fleet-wide.

The larger terminal point only destinations actually take up more memory than a 'standard' display, and this is proving troublesome on the controllers on some older buses at Riverside, where the database is now quite some size. Go North East have also carried out some research into the display types, which may mean that further routes aren't converted to the large terminal point only display.
Is this an explanation for why some only have the route number on the rear full display, or just the wrong program on? 5217 and an orange loop are examples.

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Jamie M
24 May 2018, 1:49 pm #157

(24 May 2018, 1:47 pm)Dan Not forgetting that there is a current "shortage" of minibuses - the Byker ASDA "free bus" contract is currently operating with a Solo instead of an MPD (meaning that Riverside are short of a spare minibus, with 4899 having taken the MPD's place until it is withdrawn tomorrow), service 18 is operating with Optare Versas opposed to Solos, and three boards on services X6/X7 are operating with Scania L94s opposed to Solos.


Yes - fleet numbers 715 - 717 had already been allocated to the three new Solos on delivery from Optare, with this batch of pre-owned Solos being allocated fleet numbers 718 and higher.


I wouldn't expect to see any changes to the destination lists now before July.

There's a couple of things in the pipeline, but a lot of what is being done isn't possible just yet (some firmware upgrades are required on each controller). This is currently being tested prior to being rolled out fleet-wide.

The larger terminal point only destinations actually take up more memory than a 'standard' display, and this is proving troublesome on the controllers on some older buses at Riverside, where the database is now quite some size. Go North East have also carried out some research into the display types, which may mean that further routes aren't converted to the large terminal point only display.
Is this an explanation for why some only have the route number on the rear full display, or just the wrong program on? 5217 and an orange loop are examples.

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24 May 2018, 2:43 pm #158
(24 May 2018, 1:49 pm)Jamie M Is this an explanation for why some only have the route number on the rear full display, or just the wrong program on? 5217 and an orange loop are examples.

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Yes - it was a bit of a 'bodge job' until something more permanent could be done.

The different display types are grouped together; the group which has a route number only rear display uses less memory than the one with the full size display, so that one was able to be loaded. Hanover are working with Go North East to release new firmware which essentially 'unlocks' a bit of hidden storage space on the controller, amongst other things.
Dan
24 May 2018, 2:43 pm #158

(24 May 2018, 1:49 pm)Jamie M Is this an explanation for why some only have the route number on the rear full display, or just the wrong program on? 5217 and an orange loop are examples.

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Yes - it was a bit of a 'bodge job' until something more permanent could be done.

The different display types are grouped together; the group which has a route number only rear display uses less memory than the one with the full size display, so that one was able to be loaded. Hanover are working with Go North East to release new firmware which essentially 'unlocks' a bit of hidden storage space on the controller, amongst other things.

Jamie M

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24 May 2018, 2:49 pm #159
(24 May 2018, 2:43 pm)Dan Yes - it was a bit of a 'bodge job' until something more permanent could be done.

The different display types are grouped together; the one with a small route number only rear on the back uses less memory than the one with the full size display, so that one was able to be loaded. Hanover are working with Go North East to release new firmware which essentially 'unlocks' a bit of hidden storage space on the controller, amongst other things.
Interesting. Can the controllers not be replaced with ones that natively have more space, or is it not modular enough to do so?

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Jamie M
24 May 2018, 2:49 pm #159

(24 May 2018, 2:43 pm)Dan Yes - it was a bit of a 'bodge job' until something more permanent could be done.

The different display types are grouped together; the one with a small route number only rear on the back uses less memory than the one with the full size display, so that one was able to be loaded. Hanover are working with Go North East to release new firmware which essentially 'unlocks' a bit of hidden storage space on the controller, amongst other things.
Interesting. Can the controllers not be replaced with ones that natively have more space, or is it not modular enough to do so?

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24 May 2018, 2:59 pm #160
(24 May 2018, 2:49 pm)Jamie M Interesting. Can the controllers not be replaced with ones that natively have more space, or is it not modular enough to do so?

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Yes, but very pricey!
Dan
24 May 2018, 2:59 pm #160

(24 May 2018, 2:49 pm)Jamie M Interesting. Can the controllers not be replaced with ones that natively have more space, or is it not modular enough to do so?

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Yes, but very pricey!

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