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Jimmi



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16 Mar 2019, 10:24 pm #141
(16 Mar 2019, 9:47 pm)deanmachine As a driver on the 9 I get asked almost every time I come into Dalton Park whether I'm heading to Sunderland or not. Via points probably wouldn't help in that situation either as even if it had Murton on the front it would still say via Sunderland.

Saying that I'm pretty sure I've been asked if it goes to Sunderland, when I've been terminating there and had to check to see if I had my destination set correctly!
Almost guaranteed to happen at Dalton Park from experience, happened when it was still the 61 to Sunderland, hear the same with the Arriva 22/23 and similar with the Seaham services. Probably passengers just wanting to ensure that the bus is definitely heading in the direction they want to go in more than anything as there has been times buses have come in with wrong destinations on, I once intended to catch a 22 to Peterlee and it came in still showing Sunderland whilst on the return trip to Durham.
Edited 16 Mar 2019, 10:24 pm by Jimmi.
Jimmi
16 Mar 2019, 10:24 pm #141

(16 Mar 2019, 9:47 pm)deanmachine As a driver on the 9 I get asked almost every time I come into Dalton Park whether I'm heading to Sunderland or not. Via points probably wouldn't help in that situation either as even if it had Murton on the front it would still say via Sunderland.

Saying that I'm pretty sure I've been asked if it goes to Sunderland, when I've been terminating there and had to check to see if I had my destination set correctly!
Almost guaranteed to happen at Dalton Park from experience, happened when it was still the 61 to Sunderland, hear the same with the Arriva 22/23 and similar with the Seaham services. Probably passengers just wanting to ensure that the bus is definitely heading in the direction they want to go in more than anything as there has been times buses have come in with wrong destinations on, I once intended to catch a 22 to Peterlee and it came in still showing Sunderland whilst on the return trip to Durham.

ne14ne1



1,514
16 Mar 2019, 10:28 pm #142
Is the issue with Dalton Park more that the same bus stop is used for buses travelling in both directions of the route (just guessing here as I've never been), rather than an issue with the buses having a final destination only display?
ne14ne1
16 Mar 2019, 10:28 pm #142

Is the issue with Dalton Park more that the same bus stop is used for buses travelling in both directions of the route (just guessing here as I've never been), rather than an issue with the buses having a final destination only display?

BusLoverMum



5,281
16 Mar 2019, 10:54 pm #143
(16 Mar 2019, 10:28 pm)ne14ne1 Is the issue with Dalton Park more that the same bus stop is used for buses travelling in both directions of the route (just guessing here as I've never been), rather than an issue with the buses having a final destination only display?

That doesn't help. We get the same issue with the 62 and 14 at the arnison centre. (I got caught out by that in the glare of the sun, the other day. You wouldn't believe the strength of the tuts I got from a gaggle of old ladies.)
BusLoverMum
16 Mar 2019, 10:54 pm #143

(16 Mar 2019, 10:28 pm)ne14ne1 Is the issue with Dalton Park more that the same bus stop is used for buses travelling in both directions of the route (just guessing here as I've never been), rather than an issue with the buses having a final destination only display?

That doesn't help. We get the same issue with the 62 and 14 at the arnison centre. (I got caught out by that in the glare of the sun, the other day. You wouldn't believe the strength of the tuts I got from a gaggle of old ladies.)

Ds1197



506
16 Mar 2019, 11:30 pm #144
The 309 and 310 some of them via points now

309
Newcastle
Via Whitley Bay & Colbat

310
Newcastle
Via Colbat & Battle Hill
Ds1197
16 Mar 2019, 11:30 pm #144

The 309 and 310 some of them via points now

309
Newcastle
Via Whitley Bay & Colbat

310
Newcastle
Via Colbat & Battle Hill

16 Mar 2019, 11:45 pm #145
(16 Mar 2019, 11:30 pm)Ds1197 The 309 and 310 some of them via points now

309
Newcastle
Via Whitley Bay & Colbat

310
Newcastle
Via Colbat & Battle Hill


[Image: 46664909524_6944027a2d_c.jpg]Go North East 6103 / NL63 XBT by kieron mathews, on Flickr

Noticed yesterday 6103 didn’t have them as pictured here

[Image: 47335427482_d9bfb545be_c.jpg]Go North East 6102 / NL63 YJF by kieron mathews, on Flickr

But 6102 pictured here and 6101 did have them
TEN 6083
16 Mar 2019, 11:45 pm #145

(16 Mar 2019, 11:30 pm)Ds1197 The 309 and 310 some of them via points now

309
Newcastle
Via Whitley Bay & Colbat

310
Newcastle
Via Colbat & Battle Hill


[Image: 46664909524_6944027a2d_c.jpg]Go North East 6103 / NL63 XBT by kieron mathews, on Flickr

Noticed yesterday 6103 didn’t have them as pictured here

[Image: 47335427482_d9bfb545be_c.jpg]Go North East 6102 / NL63 YJF by kieron mathews, on Flickr

But 6102 pictured here and 6101 did have them

ne14ne1



1,514
16 Mar 2019, 11:50 pm #146
I noticed the lack of consistency on the refurbished Cobalt screens too. Whats that all about, plus how come their NSAs aren't enabled?
ne14ne1
16 Mar 2019, 11:50 pm #146

I noticed the lack of consistency on the refurbished Cobalt screens too. Whats that all about, plus how come their NSAs aren't enabled?

JM03



505
17 Mar 2019, 12:03 am #147
(16 Mar 2019, 11:50 pm)ne14ne1 I noticed the lack of consistency on the refurbished Cobalt screens too. Whats that all about, plus how come their NSAs aren't enabled?
No they're not, they're getting new ones made.
JM03
17 Mar 2019, 12:03 am #147

(16 Mar 2019, 11:50 pm)ne14ne1 I noticed the lack of consistency on the refurbished Cobalt screens too. Whats that all about, plus how come their NSAs aren't enabled?
No they're not, they're getting new ones made.

JP6004



1,833
17 Mar 2019, 12:06 am #148
(16 Mar 2019, 11:45 pm)TEN 6083 [Image: 46664909524_6944027a2d_c.jpg]Go North East 6103 / NL63 XBT by kieron mathews, on Flickr

Noticed yesterday 6103 didn’t have them as pictured here

[Image: 47335427482_d9bfb545be_c.jpg]Go North East 6102 / NL63 YJF by kieron mathews, on Flickr

But 6102 pictured here and 6101 did have them

The via points are visible at Whitley Bay but not at cobalt........perhaps they switch to display end point after via points have been travelled through?
JP6004
17 Mar 2019, 12:06 am #148

(16 Mar 2019, 11:45 pm)TEN 6083 [Image: 46664909524_6944027a2d_c.jpg]Go North East 6103 / NL63 XBT by kieron mathews, on Flickr

Noticed yesterday 6103 didn’t have them as pictured here

[Image: 47335427482_d9bfb545be_c.jpg]Go North East 6102 / NL63 YJF by kieron mathews, on Flickr

But 6102 pictured here and 6101 did have them

The via points are visible at Whitley Bay but not at cobalt........perhaps they switch to display end point after via points have been travelled through?

Malarkey



6,064
17 Mar 2019, 12:09 am #149
(16 Mar 2019, 11:50 pm)ne14ne1 I noticed the lack of consistency on the refurbished Cobalt screens too. Whats that all about, plus how come their NSAs aren't enabled?

Dan deals with all that, chances are he hasn't had the chance yet to update them as he has had other things to do as he is part of the commercial team at Go North East which has more to it than simply updating destination screens and testing NSA's work, he does quite a lot on the promotional side of things as well, yesterday's opening ceremony for the new depot being a good example.

As you referenced "screens", are you talking about the destination screens or the internal screens for the next stop announcements?

As for the NSA's I was on both 6101 and 6103 the other day and the NSA's were enabled with the lass from down south doing them.
Malarkey
17 Mar 2019, 12:09 am #149

(16 Mar 2019, 11:50 pm)ne14ne1 I noticed the lack of consistency on the refurbished Cobalt screens too. Whats that all about, plus how come their NSAs aren't enabled?

Dan deals with all that, chances are he hasn't had the chance yet to update them as he has had other things to do as he is part of the commercial team at Go North East which has more to it than simply updating destination screens and testing NSA's work, he does quite a lot on the promotional side of things as well, yesterday's opening ceremony for the new depot being a good example.

As you referenced "screens", are you talking about the destination screens or the internal screens for the next stop announcements?

As for the NSA's I was on both 6101 and 6103 the other day and the NSA's were enabled with the lass from down south doing them.

17 Mar 2019, 12:11 am #150
(17 Mar 2019, 12:06 am)JP6004 The via points are visible at Whitley Bay but not at cobalt........perhaps they switch to display end point after via points have been travelled through?

Got a photo of 6101 at Cobalt Park on Friday and it had them

[Image: 533ab446e9693fda20c5d53c5fb82f32.jpg]

Here’s a close up from my photo


Sent from my iPhone XS using Tapatalk

(17 Mar 2019, 12:06 am)JP6004 The via points are visible at Whitley Bay but not at cobalt........perhaps they switch to display end point after via points have been travelled through?

Got a photo of 6101 at Cobalt Park on Friday and it had them

[Image: 533ab446e9693fda20c5d53c5fb82f32.jpg]

Here’s a close up from my photo


Sent from my iPhone XS using Tapatalk
Edited 17 Mar 2019, 12:11 am by TEN 6083.
TEN 6083
17 Mar 2019, 12:11 am #150

(17 Mar 2019, 12:06 am)JP6004 The via points are visible at Whitley Bay but not at cobalt........perhaps they switch to display end point after via points have been travelled through?

Got a photo of 6101 at Cobalt Park on Friday and it had them

[Image: 533ab446e9693fda20c5d53c5fb82f32.jpg]

Here’s a close up from my photo


Sent from my iPhone XS using Tapatalk

(17 Mar 2019, 12:06 am)JP6004 The via points are visible at Whitley Bay but not at cobalt........perhaps they switch to display end point after via points have been travelled through?

Got a photo of 6101 at Cobalt Park on Friday and it had them

[Image: 533ab446e9693fda20c5d53c5fb82f32.jpg]

Here’s a close up from my photo


Sent from my iPhone XS using Tapatalk

Malarkey



6,064
17 Mar 2019, 12:15 am #151
(17 Mar 2019, 12:06 am)JP6004 The via points are visible at Whitley Bay but not at cobalt........perhaps they switch to display end point after via points have been travelled through?

I caught both 6101 and 6103 on the Coast Road and they both showed the displays as shown in the above post, I would therefore think 6103 has not had it's displays updated as of yet by Dan.

6101 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalark...ed-public/

6103 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalark...ed-public/
Malarkey
17 Mar 2019, 12:15 am #151

(17 Mar 2019, 12:06 am)JP6004 The via points are visible at Whitley Bay but not at cobalt........perhaps they switch to display end point after via points have been travelled through?

I caught both 6101 and 6103 on the Coast Road and they both showed the displays as shown in the above post, I would therefore think 6103 has not had it's displays updated as of yet by Dan.

6101 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalark...ed-public/

6103 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalark...ed-public/

JP6004



1,833
17 Mar 2019, 12:17 am #152
(17 Mar 2019, 12:11 am)TEN 6083 Got a photo of 6101 at Cobalt Park on Friday and it had them

[Image: 533ab446e9693fda20c5d53c5fb82f32.jpg]

Here’s a close up from my photo


Sent from my iPhone XS using Tapatalk


Got a photo of 6101 at Cobalt Park on Friday and it had them

[Image: 533ab446e9693fda20c5d53c5fb82f32.jpg]

Here’s a close up from my photo


Sent from my iPhone XS using Tapatalk

If it had not yet travelled through battle hill then I presume the display wouldn't of updated until it got there as that is the last via point. The 309 updated to the end destination as the final via point (cobalt) had been reached?
JP6004
17 Mar 2019, 12:17 am #152

(17 Mar 2019, 12:11 am)TEN 6083 Got a photo of 6101 at Cobalt Park on Friday and it had them

[Image: 533ab446e9693fda20c5d53c5fb82f32.jpg]

Here’s a close up from my photo


Sent from my iPhone XS using Tapatalk


Got a photo of 6101 at Cobalt Park on Friday and it had them

[Image: 533ab446e9693fda20c5d53c5fb82f32.jpg]

Here’s a close up from my photo


Sent from my iPhone XS using Tapatalk

If it had not yet travelled through battle hill then I presume the display wouldn't of updated until it got there as that is the last via point. The 309 updated to the end destination as the final via point (cobalt) had been reached?

ne14ne1



1,514
17 Mar 2019, 10:13 am #153
(17 Mar 2019, 12:09 am)Malarkey As you referenced "screens", are you talking about the destination screens or the internal screens for the next stop announcements?

As for the NSA's I was on both 6101 and 6103 the other day and the NSA's were enabled with the lass from down south doing them.

Sorry, by screens I'd meant the destination displays. As for the internal screens though now the Cobalt's have the scrolling LED NSAs are the original flatscreens being removed to be used elsewhere or will they be kept to play live CCTV images & adverts?

Good to hear the NSAs are enabled. And as for the 'lass from down south', you mean Emma Hignett from County Durham.  Wink
ne14ne1
17 Mar 2019, 10:13 am #153

(17 Mar 2019, 12:09 am)Malarkey As you referenced "screens", are you talking about the destination screens or the internal screens for the next stop announcements?

As for the NSA's I was on both 6101 and 6103 the other day and the NSA's were enabled with the lass from down south doing them.

Sorry, by screens I'd meant the destination displays. As for the internal screens though now the Cobalt's have the scrolling LED NSAs are the original flatscreens being removed to be used elsewhere or will they be kept to play live CCTV images & adverts?

Good to hear the NSAs are enabled. And as for the 'lass from down south', you mean Emma Hignett from County Durham.  Wink

Malarkey



6,064
17 Mar 2019, 1:54 pm #154
(17 Mar 2019, 10:13 am)ne14ne1 Sorry, by screens I'd meant the destination displays. As for the internal screens though now the Cobalt's have the scrolling LED NSAs are the original flatscreens being removed to be used elsewhere or will they be kept to play live CCTV images & adverts?

Good to hear the NSAs are enabled. And as for the 'lass from down south', you mean Emma Hignett from County Durham.  Wink

Well Durham is to the south of my current location  Tongue 

Some of her pronunciations are questionable as to whether she is from up here although her bio does state she has a house in Teesdale, may of picked up on London accent while working for TFL.

The bigger screens internally should be for CCTV/Adverts.
Malarkey
17 Mar 2019, 1:54 pm #154

(17 Mar 2019, 10:13 am)ne14ne1 Sorry, by screens I'd meant the destination displays. As for the internal screens though now the Cobalt's have the scrolling LED NSAs are the original flatscreens being removed to be used elsewhere or will they be kept to play live CCTV images & adverts?

Good to hear the NSAs are enabled. And as for the 'lass from down south', you mean Emma Hignett from County Durham.  Wink

Well Durham is to the south of my current location  Tongue 

Some of her pronunciations are questionable as to whether she is from up here although her bio does state she has a house in Teesdale, may of picked up on London accent while working for TFL.

The bigger screens internally should be for CCTV/Adverts.

Michael



19,163
17 Mar 2019, 3:02 pm #155
Not sure if it was ever confirmed but when the new depot opens:

All of Stanley's OmniCitys will transfer to Gateshead, leaving the Volvo B9 to be allocated to the X70/X71.

The Consett-operated X30 service still needs to be allocated single-decks though, so stay tuned on that one...


Wonder which single deckers will be allocated to the X30?
Edited 17 Mar 2019, 3:04 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
17 Mar 2019, 3:02 pm #155

Not sure if it was ever confirmed but when the new depot opens:

All of Stanley's OmniCitys will transfer to Gateshead, leaving the Volvo B9 to be allocated to the X70/X71.

The Consett-operated X30 service still needs to be allocated single-decks though, so stay tuned on that one...


Wonder which single deckers will be allocated to the X30?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

BusLoverMum



5,281
17 Mar 2019, 3:07 pm #156
(17 Mar 2019, 1:54 pm)Malarkey Well Durham is to the south of my current location  Tongue 

Some of her pronunciations are questionable as to whether she is from up here although her bio does state she has a house in Teesdale, may of picked up on London accent while working for TFL.

The bigger screens internally should be for CCTV/Adverts.

At least she'll be aware that that place on the coast isn't pronounced "see ham."
BusLoverMum
17 Mar 2019, 3:07 pm #156

(17 Mar 2019, 1:54 pm)Malarkey Well Durham is to the south of my current location  Tongue 

Some of her pronunciations are questionable as to whether she is from up here although her bio does state she has a house in Teesdale, may of picked up on London accent while working for TFL.

The bigger screens internally should be for CCTV/Adverts.

At least she'll be aware that that place on the coast isn't pronounced "see ham."

Stanleyone

6358

451
17 Mar 2019, 4:05 pm #157
(17 Mar 2019, 3:02 pm)Michael Not sure if it was ever confirmed but when the new depot opens:

All of Stanley's OmniCitys will transfer to Gateshead, leaving the Volvo B9 to be allocated to the X70/X71.

The Consett-operated X30 service still needs to be allocated single-decks though, so stay tuned on that one...


Wonder which single deckers will be allocated to the X30?

As far as we are aware, we will retain 3 (more likely 4) Omnicities. 3 of which will operate the main daytime X30s with a 4th operating the early morning 16 from Flint Hill to Durham and the afternoon 836 Tanfield School, this then runs into Newcastle to operate a X30 back to Stanley then light to Consett Depot. In regards to the 6 Toon Link liveried B9s only 5 are required for main daytime runs, however the 6th will operate the morning and afternoon 827, with the afternoon running light from Rowlands Gill to Newcastle to operate a service back to Consett.
Stanleyone
17 Mar 2019, 4:05 pm #157

(17 Mar 2019, 3:02 pm)Michael Not sure if it was ever confirmed but when the new depot opens:

All of Stanley's OmniCitys will transfer to Gateshead, leaving the Volvo B9 to be allocated to the X70/X71.

The Consett-operated X30 service still needs to be allocated single-decks though, so stay tuned on that one...


Wonder which single deckers will be allocated to the X30?

As far as we are aware, we will retain 3 (more likely 4) Omnicities. 3 of which will operate the main daytime X30s with a 4th operating the early morning 16 from Flint Hill to Durham and the afternoon 836 Tanfield School, this then runs into Newcastle to operate a X30 back to Stanley then light to Consett Depot. In regards to the 6 Toon Link liveried B9s only 5 are required for main daytime runs, however the 6th will operate the morning and afternoon 827, with the afternoon running light from Rowlands Gill to Newcastle to operate a service back to Consett.

Michael



19,163
17 Mar 2019, 4:22 pm #158
(17 Mar 2019, 4:05 pm)Stanleyone As far as we are aware, we will retain 3 (more likely 4) Omnicities. 3 of which will operate the main daytime X30s with a 4th operating the early morning 16 from Flint Hill to Durham and the afternoon 836 Tanfield School, this then runs into Newcastle to operate a X30 back to Stanley then light to Consett Depot. In regards to the 6 Toon Link liveried B9s only 5 are required for main daytime runs, however the 6th will operate the morning and afternoon 827, with the afternoon running light from Rowlands Gill to Newcastle to operate a service back to Consett.

Ah right, would seem the better choice, to keep some at the new Consett depot.


I forgot to put the link in where i seen that information:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/danielgrah...otostream/ 

Info from Dan on his Flickr!
Edited 17 Mar 2019, 4:23 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
17 Mar 2019, 4:22 pm #158

(17 Mar 2019, 4:05 pm)Stanleyone As far as we are aware, we will retain 3 (more likely 4) Omnicities. 3 of which will operate the main daytime X30s with a 4th operating the early morning 16 from Flint Hill to Durham and the afternoon 836 Tanfield School, this then runs into Newcastle to operate a X30 back to Stanley then light to Consett Depot. In regards to the 6 Toon Link liveried B9s only 5 are required for main daytime runs, however the 6th will operate the morning and afternoon 827, with the afternoon running light from Rowlands Gill to Newcastle to operate a service back to Consett.

Ah right, would seem the better choice, to keep some at the new Consett depot.


I forgot to put the link in where i seen that information:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/danielgrah...otostream/ 

Info from Dan on his Flickr!


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

JM03



505
17 Mar 2019, 5:11 pm #159
With less buses at Consett now, will some drivers be transferring to Riverside?
JM03
17 Mar 2019, 5:11 pm #159

With less buses at Consett now, will some drivers be transferring to Riverside?

Stanleyone

6358

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17 Mar 2019, 6:59 pm #160
(17 Mar 2019, 5:11 pm)JM03 With less buses at Consett now, will some drivers be transferring to Riverside?

some drivers will transfer temporarily.

(17 Mar 2019, 4:22 pm)Michael Ah right, would seem the better choice, to keep some at the new Consett depot.


I forgot to put the link in where i seen that information:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/danielgrah...otostream/ 

Info from Dan on his Flickr!

Indeed the Omnicities will go eventually, however from opening Consett will have a number of Omnicities to operate the X30 (some X31s & X32s). I wouldn't think that the X30 will receive new buses, but personally i wouldn't rule out cascaded buses.
Edited 17 Mar 2019, 7:06 pm by Stanleyone.
Stanleyone
17 Mar 2019, 6:59 pm #160

(17 Mar 2019, 5:11 pm)JM03 With less buses at Consett now, will some drivers be transferring to Riverside?

some drivers will transfer temporarily.

(17 Mar 2019, 4:22 pm)Michael Ah right, would seem the better choice, to keep some at the new Consett depot.


I forgot to put the link in where i seen that information:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/danielgrah...otostream/ 

Info from Dan on his Flickr!

Indeed the Omnicities will go eventually, however from opening Consett will have a number of Omnicities to operate the X30 (some X31s & X32s). I wouldn't think that the X30 will receive new buses, but personally i wouldn't rule out cascaded buses.

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