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Michael



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24 Mar 2019, 12:48 pm #961
The formal merger of South Tyneside NHS Foundation Trust and City Hospitals Sunderland NHS Foundation has moved one step closer following positive feedback from regulators NHS Improvement and a recommendation from each individual Trust Board to proceed with the transaction.

As part of the merger plans and after listening to views from hundreds of staff, hospital bosses have also confirmed the trial of a new dedicated staff shuttle bus service between South Tyneside District Hospital and Sunderland Royal Hospital to begin from 1 April.

The introduction of the new staff shuttle bus service aims to reduce the need for staff to use their own cars to travel between sites and it is hoped this will also relieve pressures on hospital car parking facilities, freeing up more parking spaces for patients and visitors.


https://sun-fm.com/green-light-for-south...6B3zzgzHlQ


Wonder who will run the dedicated shuttle service?
Edited 24 Mar 2019, 12:48 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
24 Mar 2019, 12:48 pm #961

The formal merger of South Tyneside NHS Foundation Trust and City Hospitals Sunderland NHS Foundation has moved one step closer following positive feedback from regulators NHS Improvement and a recommendation from each individual Trust Board to proceed with the transaction.

As part of the merger plans and after listening to views from hundreds of staff, hospital bosses have also confirmed the trial of a new dedicated staff shuttle bus service between South Tyneside District Hospital and Sunderland Royal Hospital to begin from 1 April.

The introduction of the new staff shuttle bus service aims to reduce the need for staff to use their own cars to travel between sites and it is hoped this will also relieve pressures on hospital car parking facilities, freeing up more parking spaces for patients and visitors.


https://sun-fm.com/green-light-for-south...6B3zzgzHlQ


Wonder who will run the dedicated shuttle service?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

GuyParkRoyal



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27 Mar 2019, 4:45 pm #962
Nexus have issued the invitation to tender for Miscellaneous and Schools Contracts for the period starting 1st September 2019. Requirements are low foor, easy access, PSVAR, Euro 4 or above with a capacity of 44, 60, 84 & 90.
GuyParkRoyal
27 Mar 2019, 4:45 pm #962

Nexus have issued the invitation to tender for Miscellaneous and Schools Contracts for the period starting 1st September 2019. Requirements are low foor, easy access, PSVAR, Euro 4 or above with a capacity of 44, 60, 84 & 90.

31 Mar 2019, 6:21 pm #963
(15 Mar 2019, 8:20 am)GuyParkRoyal Nexus have issued the invitation to tender for services 792, 794 & 939 with a contract start in September 2019.

Who is likely going to be awarded the contracts to operate these? I am hopefully going to ride the 792 soon. I hope GNE keeps that.
OrangeArrow49
31 Mar 2019, 6:21 pm #963

(15 Mar 2019, 8:20 am)GuyParkRoyal Nexus have issued the invitation to tender for services 792, 794 & 939 with a contract start in September 2019.

Who is likely going to be awarded the contracts to operate these? I am hopefully going to ride the 792 soon. I hope GNE keeps that.

LVK 404L



988
31 Mar 2019, 6:29 pm #964
(31 Mar 2019, 6:21 pm)OrangeArrow49 Who is likely going to be awarded the contracts to operate these? I am hopefully going to ride the 792 soon. I hope GNE keeps that.

The lowest bidder possibly?
LVK 404L
31 Mar 2019, 6:29 pm #964

(31 Mar 2019, 6:21 pm)OrangeArrow49 Who is likely going to be awarded the contracts to operate these? I am hopefully going to ride the 792 soon. I hope GNE keeps that.

The lowest bidder possibly?

31 Mar 2019, 6:39 pm #965
(31 Mar 2019, 6:29 pm)ifm001 The lowest bidder possibly?

Yes, that is true! But is there any indication who that could be? As GNE offers the best ticket options I always prefer they operate a service. GNE has operated the 792 for many years, I am less familiar with the other two, so just interested who could win them.
OrangeArrow49
31 Mar 2019, 6:39 pm #965

(31 Mar 2019, 6:29 pm)ifm001 The lowest bidder possibly?

Yes, that is true! But is there any indication who that could be? As GNE offers the best ticket options I always prefer they operate a service. GNE has operated the 792 for many years, I am less familiar with the other two, so just interested who could win them.

Michael



19,145
31 Mar 2019, 6:51 pm #966
(31 Mar 2019, 6:39 pm)OrangeArrow49 Yes, that is true! But is there any indication who that could be? As GNE offers the best ticket options I always prefer they operate a service. GNE has operated the 792 for many years, I am less familiar with the other two, so just interested who could win them.

I think Stagecoach do too, a tyne and wear day ticket for £4.20 is cheap.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
31 Mar 2019, 6:51 pm #966

(31 Mar 2019, 6:39 pm)OrangeArrow49 Yes, that is true! But is there any indication who that could be? As GNE offers the best ticket options I always prefer they operate a service. GNE has operated the 792 for many years, I am less familiar with the other two, so just interested who could win them.

I think Stagecoach do too, a tyne and wear day ticket for £4.20 is cheap.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

LVK 404L



988
01 Apr 2019, 5:13 am #967
(31 Mar 2019, 6:39 pm)OrangeArrow49 Yes, that is true! But is there any indication who that could be? As GNE offers the best ticket options I always prefer they operate a service. GNE has operated the 792 for many years, I am less familiar with the other two, so just interested who could win them.

Other two? Are you saying there are only 3 bus companies to tender?

(31 Mar 2019, 6:51 pm)Michael I think Stagecoach do too, a tyne and wear day ticket for £4.20 is cheap.

I agree with Michael here. Stagecoach day and week fare structure is more reasonable than GNE.
Edited 01 Apr 2019, 5:15 am by LVK 404L.
LVK 404L
01 Apr 2019, 5:13 am #967

(31 Mar 2019, 6:39 pm)OrangeArrow49 Yes, that is true! But is there any indication who that could be? As GNE offers the best ticket options I always prefer they operate a service. GNE has operated the 792 for many years, I am less familiar with the other two, so just interested who could win them.

Other two? Are you saying there are only 3 bus companies to tender?

(31 Mar 2019, 6:51 pm)Michael I think Stagecoach do too, a tyne and wear day ticket for £4.20 is cheap.

I agree with Michael here. Stagecoach day and week fare structure is more reasonable than GNE.

Michael



19,145
01 Apr 2019, 6:18 am #968
(01 Apr 2019, 5:13 am)ifm001 Other two? Are you saying there are only 3 bus companies to tender?


I agree with Michael here. Stagecoach day and week fare structure is more reasonable than GNE.

Its more simple to read too, i think GNE should re-model the zones, making it easier to read and cheaper for some area's.

Nothing worse, when you're literally entering 2 stops in to another zone so you have to buy a 2 zone pass haha (example Hastings Hill to Shiney Row on the 78).

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
01 Apr 2019, 6:18 am #968

(01 Apr 2019, 5:13 am)ifm001 Other two? Are you saying there are only 3 bus companies to tender?


I agree with Michael here. Stagecoach day and week fare structure is more reasonable than GNE.

Its more simple to read too, i think GNE should re-model the zones, making it easier to read and cheaper for some area's.

Nothing worse, when you're literally entering 2 stops in to another zone so you have to buy a 2 zone pass haha (example Hastings Hill to Shiney Row on the 78).


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Stanleyone

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01 Apr 2019, 2:11 pm #969
(01 Apr 2019, 6:18 am)Michael Its more simple to read too, i think GNE should re-model the zones, making it easier to read and cheaper for some area's.

Nothing worse, when you're literally entering 2 stops in to another zone so you have to buy a 2 zone pass haha (example Hastings Hill to Shiney Row on the 78).

Even worse with green zone including Lintzford. Turns a £6.70 2 zone into a 3 zone.
Stanleyone
01 Apr 2019, 2:11 pm #969

(01 Apr 2019, 6:18 am)Michael Its more simple to read too, i think GNE should re-model the zones, making it easier to read and cheaper for some area's.

Nothing worse, when you're literally entering 2 stops in to another zone so you have to buy a 2 zone pass haha (example Hastings Hill to Shiney Row on the 78).

Even worse with green zone including Lintzford. Turns a £6.70 2 zone into a 3 zone.

01 Apr 2019, 10:45 pm #970
(01 Apr 2019, 5:13 am)ifm001 Other two? Are you saying there are only 3 bus companies to tender?


I agree with Michael here. Stagecoach day and week fare structure is more reasonable than GNE.

Other two services, not operators tendering. I know the 792 has been a Go North East service for a while but I am less familiar with the 794 and 939 services in terms of past operators.

Yes Stagecoach's day and week fare structure is better than GNE, but GNE offers Return tickets which Stagecoach do not and GNE operate in some areas within the Buzzfare zones (for example North Shields in North Tyneside within the Blue Zone) which Stagecoach doesn't. I think GNE has more services and covers a wider area than Stagecoach, but for Tyne & Wear Stagecoach offers the cheapest day and week options. 

Talking of fares, how many zones is Newcastle to Langley Park on the X25? Newcastle and Gateshead Interchange are covered by Blue and Purple and Langley Park is within the Green Zone, so I would guess two zones.
OrangeArrow49
01 Apr 2019, 10:45 pm #970

(01 Apr 2019, 5:13 am)ifm001 Other two? Are you saying there are only 3 bus companies to tender?


I agree with Michael here. Stagecoach day and week fare structure is more reasonable than GNE.

Other two services, not operators tendering. I know the 792 has been a Go North East service for a while but I am less familiar with the 794 and 939 services in terms of past operators.

Yes Stagecoach's day and week fare structure is better than GNE, but GNE offers Return tickets which Stagecoach do not and GNE operate in some areas within the Buzzfare zones (for example North Shields in North Tyneside within the Blue Zone) which Stagecoach doesn't. I think GNE has more services and covers a wider area than Stagecoach, but for Tyne & Wear Stagecoach offers the cheapest day and week options. 

Talking of fares, how many zones is Newcastle to Langley Park on the X25? Newcastle and Gateshead Interchange are covered by Blue and Purple and Langley Park is within the Green Zone, so I would guess two zones.

01 Apr 2019, 11:47 pm #971
(01 Apr 2019, 6:18 am)Michael Its more simple to read too, i think GNE should re-model the zones, making it easier to read and cheaper for some area's.

Nothing worse, when you're literally entering 2 stops in to another zone so you have to buy a 2 zone pass haha (example Hastings Hill to Shiney Row on the 78).

Hastings Hill and Shiney Row are both in the Red Zone though?
deanmachine
01 Apr 2019, 11:47 pm #971

(01 Apr 2019, 6:18 am)Michael Its more simple to read too, i think GNE should re-model the zones, making it easier to read and cheaper for some area's.

Nothing worse, when you're literally entering 2 stops in to another zone so you have to buy a 2 zone pass haha (example Hastings Hill to Shiney Row on the 78).

Hastings Hill and Shiney Row are both in the Red Zone though?

Michael



19,145
02 Apr 2019, 5:35 am #972
(01 Apr 2019, 11:47 pm)deanmachine Hastings Hill and Shiney Row are both in the Red Zone though?

At the time i thought of the Sunderland day ticket haha

On top of my head i can't think of an example
Edited 02 Apr 2019, 5:37 am by Michael.

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Michael
02 Apr 2019, 5:35 am #972

(01 Apr 2019, 11:47 pm)deanmachine Hastings Hill and Shiney Row are both in the Red Zone though?

At the time i thought of the Sunderland day ticket haha

On top of my head i can't think of an example


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

GuyParkRoyal



1,004
02 Apr 2019, 8:06 am #973
(01 Apr 2019, 10:45 pm)OrangeArrow49 Other two services, not operators tendering. I know the 792 has been a Go North East service for a while but I am less familiar with the 794 and 939 services in terms of past operators.

Yes Stagecoach's day and week fare structure is better than GNE, but GNE offers Return tickets which Stagecoach do not and GNE operate in some areas within the Buzzfare zones (for example North Shields in North Tyneside within the Blue Zone) which Stagecoach doesn't. I think GNE has more services and covers a wider area than Stagecoach, but for Tyne & Wear Stagecoach offers the cheapest day and week options. 

Talking of fares, how many zones is Newcastle to Langley Park on the X25? Newcastle and Gateshead Interchange are covered by Blue and Purple and Langley Park is within the Green Zone, so I would guess two zones.

Go North East have only had the current 792 contract since September 2018 prior to that it was Stanley Travel and before them it was JH Coaches. While Go North East have had the 792 in the past so has Weardale.
GuyParkRoyal
02 Apr 2019, 8:06 am #973

(01 Apr 2019, 10:45 pm)OrangeArrow49 Other two services, not operators tendering. I know the 792 has been a Go North East service for a while but I am less familiar with the 794 and 939 services in terms of past operators.

Yes Stagecoach's day and week fare structure is better than GNE, but GNE offers Return tickets which Stagecoach do not and GNE operate in some areas within the Buzzfare zones (for example North Shields in North Tyneside within the Blue Zone) which Stagecoach doesn't. I think GNE has more services and covers a wider area than Stagecoach, but for Tyne & Wear Stagecoach offers the cheapest day and week options. 

Talking of fares, how many zones is Newcastle to Langley Park on the X25? Newcastle and Gateshead Interchange are covered by Blue and Purple and Langley Park is within the Green Zone, so I would guess two zones.

Go North East have only had the current 792 contract since September 2018 prior to that it was Stanley Travel and before them it was JH Coaches. While Go North East have had the 792 in the past so has Weardale.

Michael



19,145
06 Apr 2019, 9:09 am #974
(17 Jan 2019, 8:32 am)GuyParkRoyal Nexus have issued an invitation to tender for secured services in Gateshead, South Tyneside and Sunderland. The minimum standard is Euro 5 low floor PSVAR compliant vehicles with a capacity of 16, 23 or 36. Closing date for tenders is 18th February with a contract start date of 19th May 2019.

With only 43 days until these start, i take it, all the contracts will remain the same?, as i'm sure they need to be put in to VOSA 56 days before they go ahead?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
06 Apr 2019, 9:09 am #974

(17 Jan 2019, 8:32 am)GuyParkRoyal Nexus have issued an invitation to tender for secured services in Gateshead, South Tyneside and Sunderland. The minimum standard is Euro 5 low floor PSVAR compliant vehicles with a capacity of 16, 23 or 36. Closing date for tenders is 18th February with a contract start date of 19th May 2019.

With only 43 days until these start, i take it, all the contracts will remain the same?, as i'm sure they need to be put in to VOSA 56 days before they go ahead?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

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06 Apr 2019, 9:58 am #975
(06 Apr 2019, 9:09 am)Michael With only 43 days until these start, i take it, all the contracts will remain the same?, as i'm sure they need to be put in to VOSA 56 days before they go ahead?
No - Go North East have lost the evening 8, 516 and 593.

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Dan
06 Apr 2019, 9:58 am #975

(06 Apr 2019, 9:09 am)Michael With only 43 days until these start, i take it, all the contracts will remain the same?, as i'm sure they need to be put in to VOSA 56 days before they go ahead?
No - Go North East have lost the evening 8, 516 and 593.

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Dan

Site Administrator

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06 Apr 2019, 9:58 am #976
(06 Apr 2019, 9:09 am)Michael With only 43 days until these start, i take it, all the contracts will remain the same?, as i'm sure they need to be put in to VOSA 56 days before they go ahead?
No - Go North East have lost the evening 8, 516 and 593.

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Dan
06 Apr 2019, 9:58 am #976

(06 Apr 2019, 9:09 am)Michael With only 43 days until these start, i take it, all the contracts will remain the same?, as i'm sure they need to be put in to VOSA 56 days before they go ahead?
No - Go North East have lost the evening 8, 516 and 593.

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S830OFT



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06 Apr 2019, 10:06 am #977
(06 Apr 2019, 9:58 am)Dan No - Go North East have lost the evening 8, 516 and 593.

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Who has gained these?


S830OFT
06 Apr 2019, 10:06 am #977

(06 Apr 2019, 9:58 am)Dan No - Go North East have lost the evening 8, 516 and 593.

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Who has gained these?



Michael



19,145
06 Apr 2019, 10:16 am #978
(06 Apr 2019, 9:58 am)Dan No - Go North East have lost the evening 8, 516 and 593.

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Interesting, maybe Stagecoach for the 8 

Probables Gateshead Central Taxi's for the 516 and 593.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
06 Apr 2019, 10:16 am #978

(06 Apr 2019, 9:58 am)Dan No - Go North East have lost the evening 8, 516 and 593.

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Interesting, maybe Stagecoach for the 8 

Probables Gateshead Central Taxi's for the 516 and 593.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

06 Apr 2019, 8:00 pm #979
(06 Apr 2019, 10:16 am)Michael Interesting, maybe Stagecoach for the 8 

Probables Gateshead Central Taxi's for the 516 and 593.

Has Gateshead Central Taxis got enough buses to run more services?

Does anyone remember a Veolia bus service to Callerton about 10 years ago operated with an Optare Solo, in the Nexus colours I think, from the West End of Newcastle?
OrangeArrow49
06 Apr 2019, 8:00 pm #979

(06 Apr 2019, 10:16 am)Michael Interesting, maybe Stagecoach for the 8 

Probables Gateshead Central Taxi's for the 516 and 593.

Has Gateshead Central Taxis got enough buses to run more services?

Does anyone remember a Veolia bus service to Callerton about 10 years ago operated with an Optare Solo, in the Nexus colours I think, from the West End of Newcastle?

Tom



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06 Apr 2019, 8:04 pm #980
(06 Apr 2019, 8:00 pm)OrangeArrow49 Has Gateshead Central Taxis got enough buses to run more services?

Does anyone remember a Veolia bus service to Callerton about 10 years ago operated with an Optare Solo, in the Nexus colours I think, from the West End of Newcastle?

I'm sure it was Arriva, the 4 I believe from Metrocentre to Callerton.
Tom
06 Apr 2019, 8:04 pm #980

(06 Apr 2019, 8:00 pm)OrangeArrow49 Has Gateshead Central Taxis got enough buses to run more services?

Does anyone remember a Veolia bus service to Callerton about 10 years ago operated with an Optare Solo, in the Nexus colours I think, from the West End of Newcastle?

I'm sure it was Arriva, the 4 I believe from Metrocentre to Callerton.

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