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Dan

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14 Jun 2019, 7:08 am #1,101

(14 Jun 2019, 6:53 am)Tim33160

Still no sight of a full list of what has been taken over.   One list circulating shows ex First trainers still at QS - plus a bus in Oldham Corporation livery - this was repainted over two years ago back into First livery



Here's a full, confirmed, list.


68x Volvo B9TL 

37279 - 37290

37297

37301/03/04

37367 - 37382

37386/89

37390 - 37395

37397 - 37402

37404/09/11/13/14

37420/21/23/24/33/36/38/39

37440 - 37442

37452

37462 - 37466


14x Volvo B5 Hybrid

39207 - 39220


12x Optare Versa Hybrid

49101/2

49106 - 49112

49921 - 49923


3x Optare Versa (schools)

49230 - 49232


1x Optare Solo

59001


9x ADL Enviro400

33841/44/46/47/48/50/51/53/55


10x Streetlite

63147 - 63156


60x Volvo B7RLE

66831 - 66836

66844

66853 - 66859

66862

66866 - 66869

66871/74/75/76

66890/91/93/96/97/98

66902/08

66910 - 66913

66915

66920/22/23/28/29

66931/33

69176/77/79/85/95/96/97/99

69200/03/04/05

69325/26/27/28

69420


2x Training Volvo B7RLE

4979

4982


1x Reserve/Scrap

30962

Dan
14 Jun 2019, 7:08 am #1,101

(14 Jun 2019, 6:53 am)Tim33160

Still no sight of a full list of what has been taken over.   One list circulating shows ex First trainers still at QS - plus a bus in Oldham Corporation livery - this was repainted over two years ago back into First livery



Here's a full, confirmed, list.


68x Volvo B9TL 

37279 - 37290

37297

37301/03/04

37367 - 37382

37386/89

37390 - 37395

37397 - 37402

37404/09/11/13/14

37420/21/23/24/33/36/38/39

37440 - 37442

37452

37462 - 37466


14x Volvo B5 Hybrid

39207 - 39220


12x Optare Versa Hybrid

49101/2

49106 - 49112

49921 - 49923


3x Optare Versa (schools)

49230 - 49232


1x Optare Solo

59001


9x ADL Enviro400

33841/44/46/47/48/50/51/53/55


10x Streetlite

63147 - 63156


60x Volvo B7RLE

66831 - 66836

66844

66853 - 66859

66862

66866 - 66869

66871/74/75/76

66890/91/93/96/97/98

66902/08

66910 - 66913

66915

66920/22/23/28/29

66931/33

69176/77/79/85/95/96/97/99

69200/03/04/05

69325/26/27/28

69420


2x Training Volvo B7RLE

4979

4982


1x Reserve/Scrap

30962

14 Jun 2019, 7:25 am #1,102

(14 Jun 2019, 7:08 am)Dan


Here's a full, confirmed, list.


68x Volvo B9TL 

37279 - 37290

37297

37301/03/04

37367 - 37382

37386/89

37390 - 37395

37397 - 37402

37404/09/11/13/14

37420/21/23/24/33/36/38/39

37440 - 37442

37452

37462 - 37466


14x Volvo B5 Hybrid

39207 - 39220


12x Optare Versa Hybrid

49101/2

49106 - 49112

49921 - 49923


3x Optare Versa (schools)

49230 - 49232


1x Optare Solo

59001


9x ADL Enviro400

33841/44/46/47/48/50/51/53/55


10x Streetlite

63147 - 63156


60x Volvo B7RLE

66831 - 66836

66844

66853 - 66859

66862

66866 - 66869

66871/74/75/76

66890/91/93/96/97/98

66902/08

66910 - 66913

66915

66920/22/23/28/29

66931/33

69176/77/79/85/95/96/97/99

69200/03/04/05

69325/26/27/28

69420


2x Training Volvo B7RLE

4979

4982


1x Reserve/Scrap

30962


Cheers!

Tim33160
14 Jun 2019, 7:25 am #1,102

(14 Jun 2019, 7:08 am)Dan


Here's a full, confirmed, list.


68x Volvo B9TL 

37279 - 37290

37297

37301/03/04

37367 - 37382

37386/89

37390 - 37395

37397 - 37402

37404/09/11/13/14

37420/21/23/24/33/36/38/39

37440 - 37442

37452

37462 - 37466


14x Volvo B5 Hybrid

39207 - 39220


12x Optare Versa Hybrid

49101/2

49106 - 49112

49921 - 49923


3x Optare Versa (schools)

49230 - 49232


1x Optare Solo

59001


9x ADL Enviro400

33841/44/46/47/48/50/51/53/55


10x Streetlite

63147 - 63156


60x Volvo B7RLE

66831 - 66836

66844

66853 - 66859

66862

66866 - 66869

66871/74/75/76

66890/91/93/96/97/98

66902/08

66910 - 66913

66915

66920/22/23/28/29

66931/33

69176/77/79/85/95/96/97/99

69200/03/04/05

69325/26/27/28

69420


2x Training Volvo B7RLE

4979

4982


1x Reserve/Scrap

30962


Cheers!

Adrian



9,566
24 Jun 2019, 4:45 pm #1,103
Developments in Manchester...

Greater Manchester mayor's plan to take control of buses
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma...r-48744234

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Adrian
24 Jun 2019, 4:45 pm #1,103

Developments in Manchester...

Greater Manchester mayor's plan to take control of buses
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma...r-48744234


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Andreos1



14,155
26 Jun 2019, 7:01 pm #1,104

(24 Jun 2019, 4:45 pm)Adrian Developments in Manchester...

Greater Manchester mayor's plan to take control of buses
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma...r-48744234


https://t.co/GoYTjUT5uy?amp=1


More on it here.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
26 Jun 2019, 7:01 pm #1,104

(24 Jun 2019, 4:45 pm)Adrian Developments in Manchester...

Greater Manchester mayor's plan to take control of buses
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma...r-48744234


https://t.co/GoYTjUT5uy?amp=1


More on it here.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

27 Jun 2019, 8:18 am #1,105

Bolton Depot purchased by Rotala: http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/westmidla...cquisition


Interestingly from Rotala's press release the vehicles will only be leased for two years, being replaced and returned to First by end of June 2021.



RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

RBZ 5459
27 Jun 2019, 8:18 am #1,105

Bolton Depot purchased by Rotala: http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/westmidla...cquisition


Interestingly from Rotala's press release the vehicles will only be leased for two years, being replaced and returned to First by end of June 2021.



RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

James101



649
27 Jun 2019, 10:44 am #1,106

(27 Jun 2019, 8:18 am)RBZ 5459

Bolton Depot purchased by Rotala: http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/westmidla...cquisition


Interestingly from Rotala's press release the vehicles will only be leased for two years, being replaced and returned to First by end of June 2021.



I imagine First will use the generally mid-life former Bolton fleet as a bank of vehicles for fleet replacement across their nationwide operations for the next couple of years, excusing them from major investment during their detachment of UK bus.


The further fracturing of the GM network into more operators will likely play into the hands of those in favour of bus franchising in Manchester.

James101
27 Jun 2019, 10:44 am #1,106

(27 Jun 2019, 8:18 am)RBZ 5459

Bolton Depot purchased by Rotala: http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/westmidla...cquisition


Interestingly from Rotala's press release the vehicles will only be leased for two years, being replaced and returned to First by end of June 2021.



I imagine First will use the generally mid-life former Bolton fleet as a bank of vehicles for fleet replacement across their nationwide operations for the next couple of years, excusing them from major investment during their detachment of UK bus.


The further fracturing of the GM network into more operators will likely play into the hands of those in favour of bus franchising in Manchester.

tyresmoke



5,299
28 Jun 2019, 10:27 am #1,107
Is it more operators though? Rotala already operate a sizeable operation across north Manchester

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tyresmoke
28 Jun 2019, 10:27 am #1,107

Is it more operators though? Rotala already operate a sizeable operation across north Manchester


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James101



649
28 Jun 2019, 11:12 am #1,108

(28 Jun 2019, 10:27 am)tyresmoke Is it more operators though? Rotala already operate a sizeable operation across north Manchester



I’d say so. 5 years ago the operator split of GM was straightforward, First in the north and Stagecoach in the south. Working east from Wigan we now have Stagecoach, Rotala, Transdev Rosso, Go North West and First networks interweaving.


First had created a hub and spoke network with local services feeding into the towns where mainline services would take passengers between towns or into Manchester. We’re now in the situation where the town network and the mainline route are ran by different operators. Naturally each new operator will now evolve their network focused on their local operation, rather than the regional scale First once had.


In GM I think things will get worse for the passenger before they get better. Stand around Piccadilly in a few months and you’ll see E400s all looking the same in Olympia livery but you’ll have to look harder to spot a logo to see whether it’s a First, GNW or DBNW bus.

James101
28 Jun 2019, 11:12 am #1,108

(28 Jun 2019, 10:27 am)tyresmoke Is it more operators though? Rotala already operate a sizeable operation across north Manchester



I’d say so. 5 years ago the operator split of GM was straightforward, First in the north and Stagecoach in the south. Working east from Wigan we now have Stagecoach, Rotala, Transdev Rosso, Go North West and First networks interweaving.


First had created a hub and spoke network with local services feeding into the towns where mainline services would take passengers between towns or into Manchester. We’re now in the situation where the town network and the mainline route are ran by different operators. Naturally each new operator will now evolve their network focused on their local operation, rather than the regional scale First once had.


In GM I think things will get worse for the passenger before they get better. Stand around Piccadilly in a few months and you’ll see E400s all looking the same in Olympia livery but you’ll have to look harder to spot a logo to see whether it’s a First, GNW or DBNW bus.

Michael



19,141
28 Jun 2019, 6:32 pm #1,109
(27 Jun 2019, 8:18 am)RBZ 5459

Bolton Depot purchased by Rotala: http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/westmidla...cquisition


Interestingly from Rotala's press release the vehicles will only be leased for two years, being replaced and returned to First by end of June 2021.


Which buses have they leased from First?, don't really know the company so not sure what Rotala has leased.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
28 Jun 2019, 6:32 pm #1,109

(27 Jun 2019, 8:18 am)RBZ 5459

Bolton Depot purchased by Rotala: http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/westmidla...cquisition


Interestingly from Rotala's press release the vehicles will only be leased for two years, being replaced and returned to First by end of June 2021.


Which buses have they leased from First?, don't really know the company so not sure what Rotala has leased.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

28 Jun 2019, 10:14 pm #1,110

(28 Jun 2019, 6:32 pm)Michael Which buses have they leased from First?, don't really know the company so not sure what Rotala has leased.

Bolton has most of the B7RLEs left at FGM not all Urbans but all Urban 2s are based there. They also have a mix of 12/14 reg E400s with most of the 14 Regs. Along with some B9TLs, 1 57,lots of 58/09 Regs and the 2 12 Reg Gemini 2s.

They also have based the Vantage Gemini 3s but are not Included in the sale.

That’s just the allocation at the moment so it could change depending on what they are leasing.

NewcastleOne
28 Jun 2019, 10:14 pm #1,110

(28 Jun 2019, 6:32 pm)Michael Which buses have they leased from First?, don't really know the company so not sure what Rotala has leased.

Bolton has most of the B7RLEs left at FGM not all Urbans but all Urban 2s are based there. They also have a mix of 12/14 reg E400s with most of the 14 Regs. Along with some B9TLs, 1 57,lots of 58/09 Regs and the 2 12 Reg Gemini 2s.

They also have based the Vantage Gemini 3s but are not Included in the sale.

That’s just the allocation at the moment so it could change depending on what they are leasing.

Michael



19,141
28 Jun 2019, 10:25 pm #1,111
(28 Jun 2019, 10:14 pm)NewcastleOne

Bolton has most of the B7RLEs left at FGM not all Urbans but all Urban 2s are based their. They also have a mix of 12/14 reg E400s with most of the 14 Regs. Along with some B9TLs, 1 57,lots of 58/09 Regs and the 2 12 Reg Gemini 2s.

They also have based the Vantage Gemini 3s but are not Included in the sale.

That’s just the allocation at the moment so it could change depending on what they are leasing.


Quite a mixture then, thanks for the information.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
28 Jun 2019, 10:25 pm #1,111

(28 Jun 2019, 10:14 pm)NewcastleOne

Bolton has most of the B7RLEs left at FGM not all Urbans but all Urban 2s are based their. They also have a mix of 12/14 reg E400s with most of the 14 Regs. Along with some B9TLs, 1 57,lots of 58/09 Regs and the 2 12 Reg Gemini 2s.

They also have based the Vantage Gemini 3s but are not Included in the sale.

That’s just the allocation at the moment so it could change depending on what they are leasing.


Quite a mixture then, thanks for the information.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Malarkey



6,060
30 Jun 2019, 1:06 pm #1,112
Blackpool Transport Fleet to be sold on after 5 years of service - https://www.route-one.net/articles/Busin..._year_plan
Malarkey
30 Jun 2019, 1:06 pm #1,112

Blackpool Transport Fleet to be sold on after 5 years of service - https://www.route-one.net/articles/Busin..._year_plan

Andreos1



14,155
30 Jun 2019, 1:23 pm #1,113

(30 Jun 2019, 1:06 pm)Malarkey Blackpool Transport Fleet to be sold on after 5 years of service - https://www.route-one.net/articles/Busin..._year_plan


Interesting comments and leanings towards the customer being a prime focus.

Time will tell whether it is an effective way to run the business and I'm sure other operators will jump on the bandwagon if it is!






'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
30 Jun 2019, 1:23 pm #1,113

(30 Jun 2019, 1:06 pm)Malarkey Blackpool Transport Fleet to be sold on after 5 years of service - https://www.route-one.net/articles/Busin..._year_plan


Interesting comments and leanings towards the customer being a prime focus.

Time will tell whether it is an effective way to run the business and I'm sure other operators will jump on the bandwagon if it is!






'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1



14,155
01 Jul 2019, 11:04 am #1,114

'Passengers must come first'


https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/17727730.amp/?ref=twtrec&__twitter_impression=true


'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
01 Jul 2019, 11:04 am #1,114

'Passengers must come first'


https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/17727730.amp/?ref=twtrec&__twitter_impression=true


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

citaro5284



3,230
09 Jul 2019, 4:08 pm #1,115
Go North West Changeover Weekend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is7o2T4j-qA&feature=youtu.be
citaro5284
09 Jul 2019, 4:08 pm #1,115

Go North West Changeover Weekend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is7o2T4j-qA&feature=youtu.be

Malarkey



6,060
09 Jul 2019, 8:10 pm #1,116

Latest repaints from Go North West.


39219 - (BN61 MWX) - 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bengleeson/48240362396/in/dateposted/

63154 -  (SN14 DXU) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/bengleeson/48240362556/in/feed

Malarkey
09 Jul 2019, 8:10 pm #1,116

Latest repaints from Go North West.


39219 - (BN61 MWX) - 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bengleeson/48240362396/in/dateposted/

63154 -  (SN14 DXU) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/bengleeson/48240362556/in/feed

citaro5284



3,230
10 Jul 2019, 4:05 pm #1,117

(09 Jul 2019, 8:10 pm)Malarkey

Latest repaints from Go North West.


39219 - (BN61 MWX) - 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bengleeson/48240362396/in/dateposted/

63154 -  (SN14 DXU) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/bengleeson/48240362556/in/feed




Go North West Hybrid Refurbishment



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgxaj0DYMH8&fbclid=IwAR2glWsSgZLuTHvW99phTT-kf7qe8bcqdDrMmx-TRpRHh4fdiC1JQp6TXtI


citaro5284
10 Jul 2019, 4:05 pm #1,117

(09 Jul 2019, 8:10 pm)Malarkey

Latest repaints from Go North West.


39219 - (BN61 MWX) - 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bengleeson/48240362396/in/dateposted/

63154 -  (SN14 DXU) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/bengleeson/48240362556/in/feed




Go North West Hybrid Refurbishment



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgxaj0DYMH8&fbclid=IwAR2glWsSgZLuTHvW99phTT-kf7qe8bcqdDrMmx-TRpRHh4fdiC1JQp6TXtI


24 Jul 2019, 9:37 pm #1,118
Diamond North West will be taking on 10 ex Your Bus Mercedes Citaros G
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jongraham890/48354260002/
NewcastleOne
24 Jul 2019, 9:37 pm #1,118

Diamond North West will be taking on 10 ex Your Bus Mercedes Citaros G
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jongraham890/48354260002/

24 Jul 2019, 11:59 pm #1,119
(24 Jul 2019, 9:37 pm)NewcastleOne Diamond North West will be taking on 10 ex Your Bus Mercedes Citaros G
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jongraham890/48354260002/
Initial Fleet will be made up of leased ex First vehicles believed to be:

4 x B9TL (1 x 57 & 3 x 58 plate)
57 x Enviro400's (12 & 14 plate)
64 x B7RLE (55/06/56 plate only)

Plus:

10 x Ex Your Bus Citaros
1 x Volvo B9TL (40625)
6 x Streetlites (32301-6, ex Preston)
10 x Volvo B7RLE 30850-2/4-61

With additional members of fleet being drafted in from Diamond West Midlands to make up the initial PVR

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk
Stephen James Peter Johns
24 Jul 2019, 11:59 pm #1,119

(24 Jul 2019, 9:37 pm)NewcastleOne Diamond North West will be taking on 10 ex Your Bus Mercedes Citaros G
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jongraham890/48354260002/
Initial Fleet will be made up of leased ex First vehicles believed to be:

4 x B9TL (1 x 57 & 3 x 58 plate)
57 x Enviro400's (12 & 14 plate)
64 x B7RLE (55/06/56 plate only)

Plus:

10 x Ex Your Bus Citaros
1 x Volvo B9TL (40625)
6 x Streetlites (32301-6, ex Preston)
10 x Volvo B7RLE 30850-2/4-61

With additional members of fleet being drafted in from Diamond West Midlands to make up the initial PVR

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk

Kuyoyo



6,846
09 Aug 2019, 9:58 am #1,120
Diamond North West

10 new Wright Streetdecks have been delivered here, diverted from the order for First West Yorkshire.

[Image: 48494444037_72149f9d57_b.jpg]Diamond North West SO19MVX by FOKX, on Flickr
Kuyoyo
09 Aug 2019, 9:58 am #1,120

Diamond North West

10 new Wright Streetdecks have been delivered here, diverted from the order for First West Yorkshire.

[Image: 48494444037_72149f9d57_b.jpg]Diamond North West SO19MVX by FOKX, on Flickr

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