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Dan

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12 Sep 2019, 6:27 pm #1,161

(12 Sep 2019, 5:28 pm)streetdeckfan

I think the main thing at the minute is letting people know they need to prove their age. I think it needs to be advertised more, sure, it's mentioned, but I think there needs to be a campaign where it's the focus, rather than small print, as when I was out and about today, there were people getting on who didn't know they needed it.

Plus, I don't think the front cover of the Metro is the right place to advertise to the target audience, when was the last time you saw someone under the age of 25 read the news paper? According to Metro's statistics, only 9% of the readership is Students (which is pretty much the target audience), it's still over 11,000 a week in the North East, but not exactly great.

I'd say I fit squarely in the target market, and on social media, I've seen very little target advertising for it, so either it's not working very well, or they're not really advertising it. Even on GNE's Twitter posts about it, it's just a quick mention at the bottom "ID required for anyone 16 or over", lets be honest, nobody reads the bottom of tweets

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12 Sep 2019, 6:27 pm #1,161

(12 Sep 2019, 5:28 pm)streetdeckfan

I think the main thing at the minute is letting people know they need to prove their age. I think it needs to be advertised more, sure, it's mentioned, but I think there needs to be a campaign where it's the focus, rather than small print, as when I was out and about today, there were people getting on who didn't know they needed it.

Plus, I don't think the front cover of the Metro is the right place to advertise to the target audience, when was the last time you saw someone under the age of 25 read the news paper? According to Metro's statistics, only 9% of the readership is Students (which is pretty much the target audience), it's still over 11,000 a week in the North East, but not exactly great.

I'd say I fit squarely in the target market, and on social media, I've seen very little target advertising for it, so either it's not working very well, or they're not really advertising it. Even on GNE's Twitter posts about it, it's just a quick mention at the bottom "ID required for anyone 16 or over", lets be honest, nobody reads the bottom of tweets

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streetdeckfan

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12 Sep 2019, 6:55 pm #1,162

(12 Sep 2019, 6:27 pm)Dan There's a vinyl on the cab door of each bus...

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I know, I'm talking more about them needing to know in advance.

It's no use having a vinyl on the door if they weren't told before leaving the house they needed to take ID with them

streetdeckfan

12 Sep 2019, 6:55 pm #1,162

(12 Sep 2019, 6:27 pm)Dan There's a vinyl on the cab door of each bus...

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I know, I'm talking more about them needing to know in advance.

It's no use having a vinyl on the door if they weren't told before leaving the house they needed to take ID with them

N1cholas

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12 Sep 2019, 8:14 pm #1,163

Love it or hate the idea but the needing ID is working, just this morning a lad got on, looking at him i could tell he was early 20s, he said 1.20 please, i said you got any ID, he said no, i said where you traveling to he said eventually to durham, i said that a £7 all zone is what he needs then, but if you had ID you could be eligible for the £4.50 day ticket, he said what age does it go up to i said 25 and funnily enough he said well im 23 and pulled his ID straight out of his wallet. over the years how much has this lad saved? thousands probably, meaning just from this 1 person thousands of pounds of lost revenue for gne. this is just 1, how many others have been getting away with getting a pound fare well into their 20s. give it a few weeks and it will be second nature to produce ID, stagecoach have there VIP ID cards (that gne also accept as id) that have to be shown for an under 19 ticket. if people are also constantly asked for the next 2 weeks when they got on a bus if they have ID im sure they will soon remember to take it with them.

N1cholas

12 Sep 2019, 8:14 pm #1,163

BusLoverMum

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12 Sep 2019, 9:06 pm #1,164

Meanwhile, I'm having trouble getting ID for Big'un because he refuses to have his photo taken. He should be entitled to a concessionary pass but nothing came of my application for that. I shall have to try again when he starts on PIP, later this year. He's 15 big and hairy so almost certain to be asked for ID, sooner or later.

BusLoverMum

12 Sep 2019, 9:06 pm #1,164

busmanT

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12 Sep 2019, 9:46 pm #1,165

(12 Sep 2019, 4:16 pm)Dan

I applied for my provisional driving licence as soon as I could. It was an age-related "milestone" thing for me. Since turning 18, I've used it to prove my ID for shops, bars, etc. I've not lost it yet (touch wood!)

The young peoples' research carried out indicated that the majority of people in this age category carry either a provisional driving licence, passport or railcard, when they know they need to prove their age.

I think it’s the 16/17 year olds where the biggest issue with id is.

Plus the short notice doesn’t seem to have helped, nor making people have change (for a £1.20 fare) if they haven’t got a contactless card. Promoting POP Pay As You Go could resolve this problem.

Pushing people to get a Provisional Driving Licence to use as id might also push them to learn to drive and then get a car!

busmanT

12 Sep 2019, 9:46 pm #1,165

(12 Sep 2019, 4:16 pm)Dan

I applied for my provisional driving licence as soon as I could. It was an age-related "milestone" thing for me. Since turning 18, I've used it to prove my ID for shops, bars, etc. I've not lost it yet (touch wood!)

The young peoples' research carried out indicated that the majority of people in this age category carry either a provisional driving licence, passport or railcard, when they know they need to prove their age.

I think it’s the 16/17 year olds where the biggest issue with id is.

Pushing people to get a Provisional Driving Licence to use as id might also push them to learn to drive and then get a car!

Dan

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13 Sep 2019, 4:40 am #1,166

(12 Sep 2019, 9:46 pm)busmanT
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I think it’s the 16/17 year olds where the biggest issue with id is.
Plus the short notice doesn’t seem to have helped, nor making people have change (for a £1.20 fare) if they haven’t got a contactless card. Promoting POP Pay As You Go could resolve this problem.

Pushing people to get a Provisional Driving Licence to use as id might also push them to learn to drive and then get a car!

Disagree on the provisional driving licence front.

I still consider myself to be not too far away from this age group to have a little bit of an insight myself - I think applying for a provisional driving licence is a milestone that most young people do, even if they have no intention of driving.

When you "get ID'd" for a club or in a shop, this is what you'd think to produce as it's far easier than a passport to carry around.

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Dan

13 Sep 2019, 4:40 am #1,166

(12 Sep 2019, 9:46 pm)busmanT
D

I think it’s the 16/17 year olds where the biggest issue with id is.
Plus the short notice doesn’t seem to have helped, nor making people have change (for a £1.20 fare) if they haven’t got a contactless card. Promoting POP Pay As You Go could resolve this problem.

Pushing people to get a Provisional Driving Licence to use as id might also push them to learn to drive and then get a car!

streetdeckfan

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13 Sep 2019, 4:44 am #1,167

(12 Sep 2019, 9:46 pm)busmanT
Pushing people to get a Provisional Driving Licence to use as id might also push them to learn to drive and then get a car!

I got my provisional as soon as I could purely as a form of ID, I have no intention of learning to drive any time soon because as I explained further up, for my journeys it doesn't make financial sense to drive

streetdeckfan

13 Sep 2019, 4:44 am #1,167

(12 Sep 2019, 9:46 pm)busmanT
Pushing people to get a Provisional Driving Licence to use as id might also push them to learn to drive and then get a car!

Stanleyone

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13 Sep 2019, 6:19 am #1,168

(12 Sep 2019, 8:14 pm)N1cholas Love it or hate the idea but the needing ID is working, just this morning a lad got on, looking at him i could tell he was early 20s, he said 1.20 please, i said you got any ID, he said no, i said where you traveling to he said eventually to durham, i said that a £7 all zone is what he needs then, but if you had ID you could be eligible for the £4.50 day ticket, he said what age does it go up to i said 25 and funnily enough he said well im 23 and pulled his ID straight out of his wallet. over the years how much has this lad saved? thousands probably, meaning just from this 1 person thousands of pounds of lost revenue for gne. this is just 1, how many others have been getting away with getting a pound fare well into their 20s. give it a few weeks and it will be second nature to produce ID, stagecoach have there VIP ID cards (that gne also accept as id) that have to be shown for an under 19 ticket. if people are also constantly asked for the next 2 weeks when they got on a bus if they have ID im sure they will soon remember to take it with them.

I agree 100%. In my opinion, the ones who are wholeheartedly against showing ID are those that have been paying £1 for 3 years and are well above 18 and still want the cheap ticket. I could probably fill a bus with people now paying full fare now who were getting child fares just 2 weeks ago.

Stanleyone

13 Sep 2019, 6:19 am #1,168

(12 Sep 2019, 8:14 pm)N1cholas Love it or hate the idea but the needing ID is working, just this morning a lad got on, looking at him i could tell he was early 20s, he said 1.20 please, i said you got any ID, he said no, i said where you traveling to he said eventually to durham, i said that a £7 all zone is what he needs then, but if you had ID you could be eligible for the £4.50 day ticket, he said what age does it go up to i said 25 and funnily enough he said well im 23 and pulled his ID straight out of his wallet. over the years how much has this lad saved? thousands probably, meaning just from this 1 person thousands of pounds of lost revenue for gne. this is just 1, how many others have been getting away with getting a pound fare well into their 20s. give it a few weeks and it will be second nature to produce ID, stagecoach have there VIP ID cards (that gne also accept as id) that have to be shown for an under 19 ticket. if people are also constantly asked for the next 2 weeks when they got on a bus if they have ID im sure they will soon remember to take it with them.

streetdeckfan

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13 Sep 2019, 6:30 am #1,169

(13 Sep 2019, 6:19 am)Stanleyone

I agree 100%. In my opinion, the ones who are wholeheartedly against showing ID are those that have been paying £1 for 3 years and are well above 18 and still want the cheap ticket. I could probably fill a bus with people now paying full fare now who were getting child fares just 2 weeks ago.

I like the idea of the ID for the single tickets, but for the day/week/monthly tickets it's quite an inconvenience. Even though I'm eligible for the £68 a month ticket, I'll probably continue to pay the £95 for the convenience of just tapping my card on the reader and getting straight on

streetdeckfan

13 Sep 2019, 6:30 am #1,169

(13 Sep 2019, 6:19 am)Stanleyone

I agree 100%. In my opinion, the ones who are wholeheartedly against showing ID are those that have been paying £1 for 3 years and are well above 18 and still want the cheap ticket. I could probably fill a bus with people now paying full fare now who were getting child fares just 2 weeks ago.

citaro5284

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13 Sep 2019, 6:43 am #1,170

(13 Sep 2019, 6:30 am)streetdeckfan

I like the idea of the ID for the single tickets, but for the day/week/monthly tickets it's quite an inconvenience. Even though I'm eligible for the £68 a month ticket, I'll probably continue to pay the £95 for the convenience of just tapping my card on the reader and getting straight on

You would pay £324 a year more then you need to....I think you best go and see your doctor Tongue

citaro5284

13 Sep 2019, 6:43 am #1,170

(13 Sep 2019, 6:30 am)streetdeckfan

I like the idea of the ID for the single tickets, but for the day/week/monthly tickets it's quite an inconvenience. Even though I'm eligible for the £68 a month ticket, I'll probably continue to pay the £95 for the convenience of just tapping my card on the reader and getting straight on

You would pay £324 a year more then you need to....I think you best go and see your doctor Tongue

streetdeckfan

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13 Sep 2019, 6:54 am #1,171

(13 Sep 2019, 6:43 am)citaro5284

You would pay £324 a year more then you need to....I think you best go and see your doctor " alt="" title="">

£324 for nobody to see the photo on my provisional is more than worth it!

streetdeckfan

13 Sep 2019, 6:54 am #1,171

(13 Sep 2019, 6:43 am)citaro5284

You would pay £324 a year more then you need to....I think you best go and see your doctor " alt="" title="">

£324 for nobody to see the photo on my provisional is more than worth it!

Adrian

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14 Sep 2019, 1:03 pm #1,172

Remember when the Get Around ID cards were scrapped, as to make it simpler to travel?.. so much for that.

I don't have a huge issue with ID for benefits or discounts. Its fairly common practice. The range of ID (what really should be considered 'alternatives') that are valid, gives you a variety of options to still access the discounts. But this shouldn't be the primary form of ID to access discounted tickets.

Both Stagecoach and Arriva in the North East offer Under 19s a free ID card on application. Stagecoach allow a variety of ID including Student ID cards, and Arriva will accept either their Teen Card or a Student ID card, but Go North East specifically state they won't accept student ID cards in their FAQs, which is a bit surprising given that their research concluded that "young people want to carry one single ID for travelling and socialising." You're already forcing them to carry at least two now, and its created an issue with consistency across the regions buses.

CitizenCard, which I have no issue with as an organisation, is listed as the first option on GNE's website. For under 19s, shouldn't they be pushed towards a POP card (£5) or Network One Young Person ID (FREE!), depending on their age? Saving them at least £10-15 in obtaining some ID. Alternatively, as stupid as it sounds, it would also be better for them to obtain free ID cards from rival operators...

(12 Sep 2019, 8:15 am)LeeCalder There's a lot of noise on Facebook from unhappy parent's regarding the new Under-25 fares.

I kind of agree with them, they aren't going to want their 15 year old son/daughter carrying their passport around with them.

In my opinion, GNE should be offering an ID card, for the cost of £5 maybe.

Surely that'd be the logical thing to do!

I've seen quite a lot of posts around this, but I'm of an age range where my Facebook friends have sons and daughters affected by this. A lot of people are mentioning the notice of these changes, which is a valid point.

The changes were first announced on August 30th, in this press release, from what I can see. So on a Friday and the weekend before the vast majority of secondary schools and colleges term time starts. By which time, you've missed the opportunity to get details out through college enrolment days, for example. You've also missed the opportunity of allowing the parents/carers the 6 weeks holidays in order to ensure their kids have sufficient ID to access discounted fares...

It all stinks of being a very rushed project to me. BusinessAdapts were still calling out for volunteers to help in their research early/mid-July, and only held the sessions with young people and staff on the 22nd, as can be seen in this tweet and this tweet. Out of interest, I wonder how many young people contributed to the research, as there doesn't appear to be many present at that session? Again, if it was timed better, you could have went directly to them in schools and colleges.

(12 Sep 2019, 6:27 pm)Dan There's a vinyl on the cab door of each bus...

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Yep... a nice and prominent door vinyl...

How are you supposed to read that? On your hands and knees?

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(12 Sep 2019, 9:46 pm)busmanT
Pushing people to get a Provisional Driving Licence to use as id might also push them to learn to drive and then get a car!

I'd find it a bit strange to see a bus operator pushing people towards provisional driving licenses. It doesn't really fit in with the new MD's desire to combat congestion, in favour of the bus, either...!

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Adrian

14 Sep 2019, 1:03 pm #1,172

Remember when the Get Around ID cards were scrapped, as to make it simpler to travel?.. so much for that.

(12 Sep 2019, 8:15 am)LeeCalder There's a lot of noise on Facebook from unhappy parent's regarding the new Under-25 fares.

I kind of agree with them, they aren't going to want their 15 year old son/daughter carrying their passport around with them.

In my opinion, GNE should be offering an ID card, for the cost of £5 maybe.

Surely that'd be the logical thing to do!

(12 Sep 2019, 6:27 pm)Dan There's a vinyl on the cab door of each bus...

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Yep... a nice and prominent door vinyl...

How are you supposed to read that? On your hands and knees?

20190907_115908.jpg
Size 1.71 MB / Downloads 12

(12 Sep 2019, 9:46 pm)busmanT
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streetdeckfan

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14 Sep 2019, 3:39 pm #1,173

(14 Sep 2019, 1:03 pm)Adrian
Remember when the Get Around ID cards were scrapped, as to make it simpler to travel?.. so much for that.

I don't have a huge issue with ID for benefits or discounts. Its fairly common practice. The range of ID (what really should be considered 'alternatives') that are valid, gives you a variety of options to still access the discounts. But this shouldn't be the primary form of ID to access discounted tickets.

Both Stagecoach and Arriva in the North East offer Under 19s a free ID card on application. Stagecoach allow a variety of ID including Student ID cards, and Arriva will accept either their Teen Card or a Student ID card, but Go North East specifically state they won't accept student ID cards in their FAQs, which is a bit surprising given that their research concluded that "young people want to carry one single ID for travelling and socialising." You're already forcing them to carry at least two now, and its created an issue with consistency across the regions buses.

It all stinks of being a very rushed project to me. BusinessAdapts were still calling out for volunteers to help in their research early/mid-July, and only held the sessions with young people and staff on the 22nd, as can be seen in this tweet and this tweet. Out of interest, I wonder how many young people contributed to the research, as there doesn't appear to be many present at that session? Again, if it was timed better, you could have went directly to them in schools and colleges.

I went along to the BusinessAdapts focus group, and there were only I think 7 there. And it was brought up several times that they should bring back the Get Around ID. Someone in the group specifically called out that she didn't like having to carry her passport around with her as ID, and it seems like that is exactly what they are forcing now.

I got the feeling that they weren't interested in what we actually thought, and as someone who also works in Market Research, it seemed like Luke didn't know what he was doing!

To be honest, very little of the new 5to25 scheme is what was brought up in the focus group, so I assume they did other research as well, although it doesn't look like it!

Half of it was centred around Uber and an ArrivaClick like service, but with questions set in such a way that the only answer was to say that a bus was better!

streetdeckfan

14 Sep 2019, 3:39 pm #1,173

(14 Sep 2019, 1:03 pm)Adrian
Remember when the Get Around ID cards were scrapped, as to make it simpler to travel?.. so much for that.

I don't have a huge issue with ID for benefits or discounts. Its fairly common practice. The range of ID (what really should be considered 'alternatives') that are valid, gives you a variety of options to still access the discounts. But this shouldn't be the primary form of ID to access discounted tickets.

Both Stagecoach and Arriva in the North East offer Under 19s a free ID card on application. Stagecoach allow a variety of ID including Student ID cards, and Arriva will accept either their Teen Card or a Student ID card, but Go North East specifically state they won't accept student ID cards in their FAQs, which is a bit surprising given that their research concluded that "young people want to carry one single ID for travelling and socialising." You're already forcing them to carry at least two now, and its created an issue with consistency across the regions buses.

It all stinks of being a very rushed project to me. BusinessAdapts were still calling out for volunteers to help in their research early/mid-July, and only held the sessions with young people and staff on the 22nd, as can be seen in this tweet and this tweet. Out of interest, I wonder how many young people contributed to the research, as there doesn't appear to be many present at that session? Again, if it was timed better, you could have went directly to them in schools and colleges.

I got the feeling that they weren't interested in what we actually thought, and as someone who also works in Market Research, it seemed like Luke didn't know what he was doing!

To be honest, very little of the new 5to25 scheme is what was brought up in the focus group, so I assume they did other research as well, although it doesn't look like it!

Half of it was centred around Uber and an ArrivaClick like service, but with questions set in such a way that the only answer was to say that a bus was better!

pbjd

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14 Sep 2019, 8:20 pm #1,174

Intrestingly, a Get Around Card isn't valid ID it seems, despite being company issue.

pbjd

14 Sep 2019, 8:20 pm #1,174

Intrestingly, a Get Around Card isn't valid ID it seems, despite being company issue.

streetdeckfan

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14 Sep 2019, 9:35 pm #1,175

(14 Sep 2019, 8:20 pm)pbjd Intrestingly, a Get Around Card isn't valid ID it seems, despite being company issue.

They stopped issuing them years ago, except from for Students AFAIK.

streetdeckfan

14 Sep 2019, 9:35 pm #1,175

(14 Sep 2019, 8:20 pm)pbjd Intrestingly, a Get Around Card isn't valid ID it seems, despite being company issue.

They stopped issuing them years ago, except from for Students AFAIK.

pbjd

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15 Sep 2019, 8:24 am #1,176

(14 Sep 2019, 9:35 pm)streetdeckfan

They stopped issuing them years ago, except from for Students AFAIK.

They were phased out in 2016, but the fact they aren't valid proof of being under 25 is silly.

pbjd

15 Sep 2019, 8:24 am #1,176

(14 Sep 2019, 9:35 pm)streetdeckfan

They stopped issuing them years ago, except from for Students AFAIK.

They were phased out in 2016, but the fact they aren't valid proof of being under 25 is silly.

Dan

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15 Sep 2019, 8:31 am #1,177

(15 Sep 2019, 8:24 am)pbjd

They were phased out in 2016, but the fact they aren't valid proof of being under 25 is silly.

I wouldn't dream of using an expired form of ID as proof of it?! I doubt very many people would have even kept a hold of these cards from three years ago.

Agree with some of the comments about student ID from colleges but in my view I think you enter a bit of a minefield as some colleges include photographic ID, some include date of birth, but not every single one does. Equally these are probably the easiest forms of ID to forge.

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Dan

15 Sep 2019, 8:31 am #1,177

(15 Sep 2019, 8:24 am)pbjd

They were phased out in 2016, but the fact they aren't valid proof of being under 25 is silly.

Jamie M

15 Sep 2019, 10:03 am #1,178

(15 Sep 2019, 8:31 am)Dan I wouldn't dream of using an expired form of ID as proof of it?! I doubt very many people would have even kept a hold of these cards from three years ago.

Agree with some of the comments about student ID from colleges but in my view I think you enter a bit of a minefield as some colleges include photographic ID, some include date of birth, but not every single one does. Equally these are probably the easiest forms of ID to forge.

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I agree and disagree with the ID. It's a tricky one but I think once it matures a bit and a few things changed. It'll make more sense. These sort of systems always take a while to settle in either way.

I still think people will still forge ID to a good standard, not convinced that's the rational that should be used for changing it, but now not every bob scott and mary can get on for 2.10£ less a journey with 0 effort.

Jamie M

15 Sep 2019, 10:03 am #1,178

(15 Sep 2019, 8:31 am)Dan I wouldn't dream of using an expired form of ID as proof of it?! I doubt very many people would have even kept a hold of these cards from three years ago.

Agree with some of the comments about student ID from colleges but in my view I think you enter a bit of a minefield as some colleges include photographic ID, some include date of birth, but not every single one does. Equally these are probably the easiest forms of ID to forge.

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streetdeckfan

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15 Sep 2019, 11:39 am #1,179

(15 Sep 2019, 8:31 am)Dan I wouldn't dream of using an expired form of ID as proof of it?! I doubt very many people would have even kept a hold of these cards from three years ago.

Agree with some of the comments about student ID from colleges but in my view I think you enter a bit of a minefield as some colleges include photographic ID, some include date of birth, but not every single one does. Equally these are probably the easiest forms of ID to forge.

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Quite a lot of places will allow you to use an expired passport as proof of age, even though technically it's not valid ID, but it totally depends on the place.

I personally still have 3 of the 5 Get Around IDs that I went through because I had a habit of losing them and finding them as soon as I got the replacement, although one is somewhere in Newcastle Airport, and the other is probably still stuck between the seats on 9085! Plus, I still have all those laminated paper passes we were given for the scholars, do they even issue them anymore?

As they say, locks only keep honest people out, and let's be honest, if you'd go through the effort of getting a fake Student ID, I don't think getting a fake provisional would be a stretch.

streetdeckfan

15 Sep 2019, 11:39 am #1,179

(15 Sep 2019, 8:31 am)Dan I wouldn't dream of using an expired form of ID as proof of it?! I doubt very many people would have even kept a hold of these cards from three years ago.

Agree with some of the comments about student ID from colleges but in my view I think you enter a bit of a minefield as some colleges include photographic ID, some include date of birth, but not every single one does. Equally these are probably the easiest forms of ID to forge.

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Quite a lot of places will allow you to use an expired passport as proof of age, even though technically it's not valid ID, but it totally depends on the place.

As they say, locks only keep honest people out, and let's be honest, if you'd go through the effort of getting a fake Student ID, I don't think getting a fake provisional would be a stretch.

Dan

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15 Sep 2019, 2:40 pm #1,180

(15 Sep 2019, 11:39 am)streetdeckfan

Quite a lot of places will allow you to use an expired passport as proof of age, even though technically it's not valid ID, but it totally depends on the place.

I personally still have 3 of the 5 Get Around IDs that I went through because I had a habit of losing them and finding them as soon as I got the replacement, although one is somewhere in Newcastle Airport, and the other is probably still stuck between the seats on 9085! Plus, I still have all those laminated paper passes we were given for the scholars, do they even issue them anymore?

As they say, locks only keep honest people out, and let's be honest, if you'd go through the effort of getting a fake Student ID, I don't think getting a fake provisional would be a stretch.

So what's to stop you having out those three Get Around ID cards to your friends who are the same age as you, and look similar?

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Dan

15 Sep 2019, 2:40 pm #1,180

(15 Sep 2019, 11:39 am)streetdeckfan

Quite a lot of places will allow you to use an expired passport as proof of age, even though technically it's not valid ID, but it totally depends on the place.

I personally still have 3 of the 5 Get Around IDs that I went through because I had a habit of losing them and finding them as soon as I got the replacement, although one is somewhere in Newcastle Airport, and the other is probably still stuck between the seats on 9085! Plus, I still have all those laminated paper passes we were given for the scholars, do they even issue them anymore?

As they say, locks only keep honest people out, and let's be honest, if you'd go through the effort of getting a fake Student ID, I don't think getting a fake provisional would be a stretch.

So what's to stop you having out those three Get Around ID cards to your friends who are the same age as you, and look similar?

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