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Kuyoyo



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29 Oct 2019, 11:28 am #761

(25 Oct 2019, 1:15 pm)Kuyoyo Stagecoach Yorkshire

Chesterfield-based 'Gold' Scania E400 15190-2 are now branded for new service X1 (Chesterfield - Clay Cross - Alfreton - East Midlands Designer Outlet - Nottingham) which starts on Sunday (15192 has therefore lost its short-lived branding for the 50) and are to be receive Euro6 modifications.

10 Gold-specification Scania E400s are due to transfer from Oxford once their new E400MMCs have entered service. Reports elsewhere suggest 5 will be allocated to Chesterfield, where they will be allocated to the 50 group in place of the native examples now branded for the X1, while the other 5 will be allocated to Barnsley depot to convert the X10 (Barnsley to Leeds express) to full time double decker operation (and supposedly additionally allow Barnsley to operate their X17 turns with Gold-spec vehicles).


The aforementioned branding on 15190

[Image: 48977980287_32186fcb55_b.jpg]Stagecoach Yorkshire 15190 YN64 AOA - Nottingham by JPT Photos, on Flickr


Kuyoyo
29 Oct 2019, 11:28 am #761

(25 Oct 2019, 1:15 pm)Kuyoyo Stagecoach Yorkshire

Chesterfield-based 'Gold' Scania E400 15190-2 are now branded for new service X1 (Chesterfield - Clay Cross - Alfreton - East Midlands Designer Outlet - Nottingham) which starts on Sunday (15192 has therefore lost its short-lived branding for the 50) and are to be receive Euro6 modifications.

10 Gold-specification Scania E400s are due to transfer from Oxford once their new E400MMCs have entered service. Reports elsewhere suggest 5 will be allocated to Chesterfield, where they will be allocated to the 50 group in place of the native examples now branded for the X1, while the other 5 will be allocated to Barnsley depot to convert the X10 (Barnsley to Leeds express) to full time double decker operation (and supposedly additionally allow Barnsley to operate their X17 turns with Gold-spec vehicles).


The aforementioned branding on 15190

[Image: 48977980287_32186fcb55_b.jpg]Stagecoach Yorkshire 15190 YN64 AOA - Nottingham by JPT Photos, on Flickr


Kuyoyo



6,853
24 Nov 2019, 9:30 am #762
First

York

The Versa EVs and Citaros are in the process of being repainted and fitted with NSAs and USBs (plus full refurbishement for the Citaros) by Bus and Coach World ahead of the delivery of the 21 Metrodeckers for the Park & Ride network. A new dark blue livery is being rolled out, as shown below by 49910 and 11102
[Image: 49054970698_6fd3dfe014_5k.jpg]First York 49910 YJ15AYM by Bob, on Flickr
[Image: 49091291187_ad85d5588a_5k.jpg]First York 11102 BG58OLT by Bob, on Flickr

Leeds & West Yorkshire

As mentioned elsewhere, Leeds is the first operation to resume delivery of new Wrightbus Stock following the company's rescue. So far delivered are Streetdecks 35600/2-4 - these examples debut a fifth colour branding on the Leeds City livery, that of Grey for use on services 4/4G (Seacroft to Pudsey) and 16/16A (Whinmoor to Pudsey).

South Yorkshire

Following their return from loan to Diamond North West after the sale of Bolton depot, E400 33705/17/20/25/55 (SN12 AHO, AKF/K/X, AOR) have transferred from the Manchester fleet for use at Olive Grove depot as replacements for the Volvo B7TL/Alexander ALX400s.[/u]
Kuyoyo
24 Nov 2019, 9:30 am #762

First

York

The Versa EVs and Citaros are in the process of being repainted and fitted with NSAs and USBs (plus full refurbishement for the Citaros) by Bus and Coach World ahead of the delivery of the 21 Metrodeckers for the Park & Ride network. A new dark blue livery is being rolled out, as shown below by 49910 and 11102
[Image: 49054970698_6fd3dfe014_5k.jpg]First York 49910 YJ15AYM by Bob, on Flickr
[Image: 49091291187_ad85d5588a_5k.jpg]First York 11102 BG58OLT by Bob, on Flickr

Leeds & West Yorkshire

As mentioned elsewhere, Leeds is the first operation to resume delivery of new Wrightbus Stock following the company's rescue. So far delivered are Streetdecks 35600/2-4 - these examples debut a fifth colour branding on the Leeds City livery, that of Grey for use on services 4/4G (Seacroft to Pudsey) and 16/16A (Whinmoor to Pudsey).

South Yorkshire

Following their return from loan to Diamond North West after the sale of Bolton depot, E400 33705/17/20/25/55 (SN12 AHO, AKF/K/X, AOR) have transferred from the Manchester fleet for use at Olive Grove depot as replacements for the Volvo B7TL/Alexander ALX400s.[/u]

Kuyoyo



6,853
27 Nov 2019, 1:55 pm #763
(25 Oct 2019, 1:15 pm)Kuyoyo Stagecoach Yorkshire

10 Gold-specification Scania E400s are due to transfer from Oxford once their new E400MMCs have entered service. Reports elsewhere suggest 5 will be allocated to Chesterfield, where they will be allocated to the 50 group in place of the native examples now branded for the X1, while the other 5 will be allocated to Barnsley depot to convert the X10 (Barnsley to Leeds express) to full time double decker operation (and supposedly additionally allow Barnsley to operate their X17 turns with Gold-spec vehicles).

Some slight changes, only 8 Gold-spec Scania E400s are due here from Oxford - so far transferred are 15534/5/7 (VX59 JCY/Z, JDJ) with sister 15536 (VX59 JDF) also expected.
Kuyoyo
27 Nov 2019, 1:55 pm #763

(25 Oct 2019, 1:15 pm)Kuyoyo Stagecoach Yorkshire

10 Gold-specification Scania E400s are due to transfer from Oxford once their new E400MMCs have entered service. Reports elsewhere suggest 5 will be allocated to Chesterfield, where they will be allocated to the 50 group in place of the native examples now branded for the X1, while the other 5 will be allocated to Barnsley depot to convert the X10 (Barnsley to Leeds express) to full time double decker operation (and supposedly additionally allow Barnsley to operate their X17 turns with Gold-spec vehicles).

Some slight changes, only 8 Gold-spec Scania E400s are due here from Oxford - so far transferred are 15534/5/7 (VX59 JCY/Z, JDJ) with sister 15536 (VX59 JDF) also expected.

Kuyoyo



6,853
01 Dec 2019, 6:43 am #764
(24 Nov 2019, 9:30 am)Kuyoyo First

Leeds & West Yorkshire

As mentioned elsewhere, Leeds is the first operation to resume delivery of new Wrightbus Stock following the company's rescue. So far delivered are Streetdecks 35600/2-4 - these examples debut a fifth colour branding on the Leeds City livery, that of Grey for use on services 4/4G (Seacroft to Pudsey) and 16/16A (Whinmoor to Pudsey).

35600/1 entered service yesterday - unlike the previous batches of Streetdecks, these have Yorkshire registrations - YE69 YFX/W
https://www.flickr.com/photos/128789124@...datetaken/
Kuyoyo
01 Dec 2019, 6:43 am #764

(24 Nov 2019, 9:30 am)Kuyoyo First

Leeds & West Yorkshire

As mentioned elsewhere, Leeds is the first operation to resume delivery of new Wrightbus Stock following the company's rescue. So far delivered are Streetdecks 35600/2-4 - these examples debut a fifth colour branding on the Leeds City livery, that of Grey for use on services 4/4G (Seacroft to Pudsey) and 16/16A (Whinmoor to Pudsey).

35600/1 entered service yesterday - unlike the previous batches of Streetdecks, these have Yorkshire registrations - YE69 YFX/W
https://www.flickr.com/photos/128789124@...datetaken/

Kuyoyo



6,853
06 Dec 2019, 9:59 am #765
(27 Nov 2019, 1:55 pm)Kuyoyo Some slight changes, only 8 Gold-spec Scania E400s are due here from Oxford - so far transferred are 15534/5/7 (VX59 JCY/Z, JDJ) with sister 15536 (VX59 JDF) also expected.

Also now confirmed are 15609/10 (OU10 BHA/D) which have also be confirmed as Barnsley-based for the X10.
Kuyoyo
06 Dec 2019, 9:59 am #765

(27 Nov 2019, 1:55 pm)Kuyoyo Some slight changes, only 8 Gold-spec Scania E400s are due here from Oxford - so far transferred are 15534/5/7 (VX59 JCY/Z, JDJ) with sister 15536 (VX59 JDF) also expected.

Also now confirmed are 15609/10 (OU10 BHA/D) which have also be confirmed as Barnsley-based for the X10.

Kuyoyo



6,853
08 Dec 2019, 9:05 am #766
First South Yorkshire

Volvo B9TL/Wright Gemini 2s 36221-4/7/37/40-2/6 have transferred from Leeds Hunslet Park to Sheffield Olive Grove.
Olive Grove have lost B7RLE 69025/44 to Doncaster. Also due to move to Doncaster are B9TL 37106/8, both of which are currently at Volvo's Crossroads dealership in Rotherham for work.
Streetdecks 35117/31 have transferred to Leicester - all the 'SteelLink' livered examples are due to transferr.
Kuyoyo
08 Dec 2019, 9:05 am #766

First South Yorkshire

Volvo B9TL/Wright Gemini 2s 36221-4/7/37/40-2/6 have transferred from Leeds Hunslet Park to Sheffield Olive Grove.
Olive Grove have lost B7RLE 69025/44 to Doncaster. Also due to move to Doncaster are B9TL 37106/8, both of which are currently at Volvo's Crossroads dealership in Rotherham for work.
Streetdecks 35117/31 have transferred to Leicester - all the 'SteelLink' livered examples are due to transferr.

tyresmoke



5,318
05 Jan 2020, 11:54 am #767
York Pullman have added a Volvo B7RLE Wright AE12FGM to their fleet branded for the 36 route York to Elvington, and Volvo B10BLE T128OAH has gone on loan to Reliance whilst Euro6 upgrades take place on parts of their fleet.

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tyresmoke
05 Jan 2020, 11:54 am #767

York Pullman have added a Volvo B7RLE Wright AE12FGM to their fleet branded for the 36 route York to Elvington, and Volvo B10BLE T128OAH has gone on loan to Reliance whilst Euro6 upgrades take place on parts of their fleet.


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Kuyoyo



6,853
05 Jan 2020, 6:34 pm #768
First

West Yorkshire

Full details of the latest batch of Leeds Streetdecks are as followed (taken from the 'Travel West Yorkshire' forum)
Hunslet Park (all carry the Green Wedge 'All Routes' livery)
35583 (not arrived yet)
35584 (not arrived yet)
35585 (not arrived yet)
35586 (not arrived yet)
35587 YE69YGF
35588 YE69YGZ
35589 YE69YGY
35590 YE69YGX
35591 YE69YGW
35592 (not arrived yet)
35593 (not arrived yet)
35594 (not arrived yet)
35595 YE69YGD
35596 YE69YGC
35597 YE69YGA
35598 YE69YFZ
35599 YE69YFY
Bramley (Wedge colour in brackets)
35600 YE69YFX (Grey)
35601 YE69YFW (Grey)
35602 YE69YFV (Grey)
35603 YE69YFU (Grey)
35604 YE69YFT (Grey)
35605 YE69YGP (Grey)
35606 YE69YGO (Grey)
35607 YE69YGN (Grey)
35608 YE69YGM (Grey)
35609 YE69YGL (Grey)
35610 YE69YGK (Grey)
35611 YE69YGJ (Grey)
35612 YE69YGH (Grey)
35613 YE69YGG (Grey)
35614 YE69YGV (Grey)
35615 YE69YGU (Grey)
35616 YE69YGT (Grey)
35617 (not arrived yet)
35618 (not arrived yet)
35619 (not arrived yet)
35620 (not arrived yet)
35621 (not arrived yet)
35622 (not arrived yet)
35623 (not arrived yet)
35624 (not arrived yet)
35625 YE69YGR (Grey)
35626 YE69YHN (Grey)
35627 YE69YHM (Grey)
35628 YE69YHL (Grey)
35629 YE69YHK (Grey)
35630 YE69YHJ (Grey)
35631 (not arrived yet)
35632 YE69YHH (Grey)
35633 (not arrived yet)
35634 YE69YHG (Grey)
35635 YE69YHF (Grey)
35636 YE69YHB (Yellow)
35637 YE69YHA (Yellow)

Further cascades taken place so far:
Internal
37687-8/720-3/5-8/30/52/3/5 have moved from Bramley to Hunslet Park
37714-7 have transferred from Bramley to Bradford
External
B7TLs 37021-5/34/5 are due to move to Eastern Counties
B9TLs 37671/3 have transferred to Cymru at Swansea

South Yorkshire

At currently, all but 2 of the remaining 26 B9TL/Gemini 2s due from West Yorkshire have arrived at Olive Grove - 36225/45 are the 2 outstanding
B9TLs 37103/529 have transferred from Olive Grove to Doncaster, while Streetlite 63378 will be going the other way once removal of its allover wrap has taken place.
Service changes at the end of January see further reductions in the Rotherham area (the X1/X10 reduced to every 10 minutes Monday to Friday between Maltby and Rotherham, continuing to Sheffield 4 times an hour; 22a/22c reduced to a combined 20 minute frequency; 10 extended down from Maltby replacing the 113 but reduced to hourly between Maltby and Doncaster). In addition, 11 vehicles of work in the Rotherham area will be operated by Doncaster depot from that date.[/b]
Kuyoyo
05 Jan 2020, 6:34 pm #768

First

West Yorkshire

Full details of the latest batch of Leeds Streetdecks are as followed (taken from the 'Travel West Yorkshire' forum)
Hunslet Park (all carry the Green Wedge 'All Routes' livery)
35583 (not arrived yet)
35584 (not arrived yet)
35585 (not arrived yet)
35586 (not arrived yet)
35587 YE69YGF
35588 YE69YGZ
35589 YE69YGY
35590 YE69YGX
35591 YE69YGW
35592 (not arrived yet)
35593 (not arrived yet)
35594 (not arrived yet)
35595 YE69YGD
35596 YE69YGC
35597 YE69YGA
35598 YE69YFZ
35599 YE69YFY
Bramley (Wedge colour in brackets)
35600 YE69YFX (Grey)
35601 YE69YFW (Grey)
35602 YE69YFV (Grey)
35603 YE69YFU (Grey)
35604 YE69YFT (Grey)
35605 YE69YGP (Grey)
35606 YE69YGO (Grey)
35607 YE69YGN (Grey)
35608 YE69YGM (Grey)
35609 YE69YGL (Grey)
35610 YE69YGK (Grey)
35611 YE69YGJ (Grey)
35612 YE69YGH (Grey)
35613 YE69YGG (Grey)
35614 YE69YGV (Grey)
35615 YE69YGU (Grey)
35616 YE69YGT (Grey)
35617 (not arrived yet)
35618 (not arrived yet)
35619 (not arrived yet)
35620 (not arrived yet)
35621 (not arrived yet)
35622 (not arrived yet)
35623 (not arrived yet)
35624 (not arrived yet)
35625 YE69YGR (Grey)
35626 YE69YHN (Grey)
35627 YE69YHM (Grey)
35628 YE69YHL (Grey)
35629 YE69YHK (Grey)
35630 YE69YHJ (Grey)
35631 (not arrived yet)
35632 YE69YHH (Grey)
35633 (not arrived yet)
35634 YE69YHG (Grey)
35635 YE69YHF (Grey)
35636 YE69YHB (Yellow)
35637 YE69YHA (Yellow)

Further cascades taken place so far:
Internal
37687-8/720-3/5-8/30/52/3/5 have moved from Bramley to Hunslet Park
37714-7 have transferred from Bramley to Bradford
External
B7TLs 37021-5/34/5 are due to move to Eastern Counties
B9TLs 37671/3 have transferred to Cymru at Swansea

South Yorkshire

At currently, all but 2 of the remaining 26 B9TL/Gemini 2s due from West Yorkshire have arrived at Olive Grove - 36225/45 are the 2 outstanding
B9TLs 37103/529 have transferred from Olive Grove to Doncaster, while Streetlite 63378 will be going the other way once removal of its allover wrap has taken place.
Service changes at the end of January see further reductions in the Rotherham area (the X1/X10 reduced to every 10 minutes Monday to Friday between Maltby and Rotherham, continuing to Sheffield 4 times an hour; 22a/22c reduced to a combined 20 minute frequency; 10 extended down from Maltby replacing the 113 but reduced to hourly between Maltby and Doncaster). In addition, 11 vehicles of work in the Rotherham area will be operated by Doncaster depot from that date.[/b]

Michael



19,165
20 Jan 2020, 8:12 pm #769
PB0000328/315 Registered (Short notice)
EAST YORKSHIRE MOTOR SERVICES LIMITED
Route: Ellerton to Woldgate College
Service number: 4W (4W)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Feb 2020

PB0000328/418 Registered (Short notice)
EAST YORKSHIRE MOTOR SERVICES LIMITED
Route: Wilberfoss to Woldgate College
Service number: 6W (6W)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Feb 2020

PB0000328/423 Registered (Short notice)
EAST YORKSHIRE MOTOR SERVICES LIMITED
Route: Wilberfoss to Woldgate College
Service number: 5W (5W)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Feb 2020

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
20 Jan 2020, 8:12 pm #769

PB0000328/315 Registered (Short notice)
EAST YORKSHIRE MOTOR SERVICES LIMITED
Route: Ellerton to Woldgate College
Service number: 4W (4W)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Feb 2020

PB0000328/418 Registered (Short notice)
EAST YORKSHIRE MOTOR SERVICES LIMITED
Route: Wilberfoss to Woldgate College
Service number: 6W (6W)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Feb 2020

PB0000328/423 Registered (Short notice)
EAST YORKSHIRE MOTOR SERVICES LIMITED
Route: Wilberfoss to Woldgate College
Service number: 5W (5W)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Feb 2020


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Adrian



9,583
02 Feb 2020, 10:55 pm #770
I've not written a blog post for a while, but here's my latest piece after finally managing to try out the Harrogate Electrics: https://busesandbeyond.wordpress.com/202...wn-travel/

Comments and thoughts appreciated Smile

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Adrian
02 Feb 2020, 10:55 pm #770

I've not written a blog post for a while, but here's my latest piece after finally managing to try out the Harrogate Electrics: https://busesandbeyond.wordpress.com/202...wn-travel/

Comments and thoughts appreciated Smile


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05 Feb 2020, 12:32 am #771
(02 Feb 2020, 10:55 pm)Adrian I've not written a blog post for a while, but here's my latest piece after finally managing to try out the Harrogate Electrics: https://busesandbeyond.wordpress.com/202...wn-travel/

Comments and thoughts appreciated Smile

Interesting read, I'm not usually one to complain, but leg room on pretty much all of GNE's fleet is horrendous. It is physically impossible for me to sit straight on the seats, hence why my first choice is to go for a table on the StreetDecks/E400s, or the emergency exit on a single decker. Failing that, I have no choice but to sit sideways and take up both seats, so it's great to see that some operators are sacrificing capacity for passenger comfort!

I'm a big fan of EVs, although with an electric drivetrain being so quiet, it's really noticeable when the bus itself is of low quality. The Yutongs for example, when they had the trial on the X66, it was creaker than the windows on the E200s! and you could fee the weight of the batteries on the roof going round corners. The same with the E200 EV that GNE trialed last year, things that were normally not noticeable over the sound of the engine, were very noticeable! Going off what you wrote, it seems like this wasn't an issue with the Volvos so that's also great to see!

I'm not a fan of that NSA system they have installed, the screen seems a bit too crowded for my liking. I much prefer what GNE have done with the newer system with the next stop taking up the full screen, although it is handy to see the next few stops you can get prepared to leave, which would be handy on a longer route where you're more likely to have things like phone chargers and tablets to put away.

The issue you mentioned about the tables not having stop buttons is the same issue with the E400s, if you're sitting at a table, you have to lean over and push the stop button in front of someone else, which can be quite awkward. Also, I've been on an E400 a few times where the stop buttons on the seats haven't worked at all, so it was only sheer luck that someone downstairs was getting off at my stop, as I didn't have time to walk to the front of the bus to push the only proper stop button (which is a chore in and of itself with the low height upstairs!)

The thing that shocked me (being a user of Durham Bus Station) was when you mentioned the supervisor telling the driver to go round to not block the stand. They need some at Durham to do that with Arriva!
streetdeckfan
05 Feb 2020, 12:32 am #771

(02 Feb 2020, 10:55 pm)Adrian I've not written a blog post for a while, but here's my latest piece after finally managing to try out the Harrogate Electrics: https://busesandbeyond.wordpress.com/202...wn-travel/

Comments and thoughts appreciated Smile

Interesting read, I'm not usually one to complain, but leg room on pretty much all of GNE's fleet is horrendous. It is physically impossible for me to sit straight on the seats, hence why my first choice is to go for a table on the StreetDecks/E400s, or the emergency exit on a single decker. Failing that, I have no choice but to sit sideways and take up both seats, so it's great to see that some operators are sacrificing capacity for passenger comfort!

I'm a big fan of EVs, although with an electric drivetrain being so quiet, it's really noticeable when the bus itself is of low quality. The Yutongs for example, when they had the trial on the X66, it was creaker than the windows on the E200s! and you could fee the weight of the batteries on the roof going round corners. The same with the E200 EV that GNE trialed last year, things that were normally not noticeable over the sound of the engine, were very noticeable! Going off what you wrote, it seems like this wasn't an issue with the Volvos so that's also great to see!

I'm not a fan of that NSA system they have installed, the screen seems a bit too crowded for my liking. I much prefer what GNE have done with the newer system with the next stop taking up the full screen, although it is handy to see the next few stops you can get prepared to leave, which would be handy on a longer route where you're more likely to have things like phone chargers and tablets to put away.

The issue you mentioned about the tables not having stop buttons is the same issue with the E400s, if you're sitting at a table, you have to lean over and push the stop button in front of someone else, which can be quite awkward. Also, I've been on an E400 a few times where the stop buttons on the seats haven't worked at all, so it was only sheer luck that someone downstairs was getting off at my stop, as I didn't have time to walk to the front of the bus to push the only proper stop button (which is a chore in and of itself with the low height upstairs!)

The thing that shocked me (being a user of Durham Bus Station) was when you mentioned the supervisor telling the driver to go round to not block the stand. They need some at Durham to do that with Arriva!

Jimmi



10,969
05 Feb 2020, 8:49 am #772
(02 Feb 2020, 10:55 pm)Adrian I've not written a blog post for a while, but here's my latest piece after finally managing to try out the Harrogate Electrics: https://busesandbeyond.wordpress.com/202...wn-travel/

Comments and thoughts appreciated Smile
There's no bell for the back row of seats either which was annoying the first time I rode one, not knowing the other seats had bells on the side I had to walk to the front of the bus and press a bell or hope someone would want the same stop as me, actually had similar issue sat at the front of 4811 the other night.

Harrogate Bus Station is rather irritating for someone like myself as I'm a bit impatient and there's not much space to navigate your way through it, always either get stuck behind someone walking really slowly and can't get past them or people stand in a position that makes it so you can't get past them.
Jimmi
05 Feb 2020, 8:49 am #772

(02 Feb 2020, 10:55 pm)Adrian I've not written a blog post for a while, but here's my latest piece after finally managing to try out the Harrogate Electrics: https://busesandbeyond.wordpress.com/202...wn-travel/

Comments and thoughts appreciated Smile
There's no bell for the back row of seats either which was annoying the first time I rode one, not knowing the other seats had bells on the side I had to walk to the front of the bus and press a bell or hope someone would want the same stop as me, actually had similar issue sat at the front of 4811 the other night.

Harrogate Bus Station is rather irritating for someone like myself as I'm a bit impatient and there's not much space to navigate your way through it, always either get stuck behind someone walking really slowly and can't get past them or people stand in a position that makes it so you can't get past them.

Adrian



9,583
05 Feb 2020, 11:35 pm #773
(05 Feb 2020, 12:32 am)streetdeckfan I'm a big fan of EVs, although with an electric drivetrain being so quiet, it's really noticeable when the bus itself is of low quality. The Yutongs for example, when they had the trial on the X66, it was creaker than the windows on the E200s! and you could fee the weight of the batteries on the roof going round corners. The same with the E200 EV that GNE trialed last year, things that were normally not noticeable over the sound of the engine, were very noticeable! Going off what you wrote, it seems like this wasn't an issue with the Volvos so that's also great to see!

The quality difference between these and the Streetair EVs that Lothian have is streets apart. The Volvo is just a far superior product, but having used the hybrids up in Edinburgh, I wasn't expecting anything else.

Never managed to catch up with the Yutong, so quite looking forward to their arrival up here.

(05 Feb 2020, 12:32 am)streetdeckfan The issue you mentioned about the tables not having stop buttons is the same issue with the E400s, if you're sitting at a table, you have to lean over and push the stop button in front of someone else, which can be quite awkward. Also, I've been on an E400 a few times where the stop buttons on the seats haven't worked at all, so it was only sheer luck that someone downstairs was getting off at my stop, as I didn't have time to walk to the front of the bus to push the only proper stop button (which is a chore in and of itself with the low height upstairs!)

It's strange. Given where the bell is placed on the side wall, I don't think I'd be best pleased with someone reaching over in that area.

I'm yet to be convinced of the latest fad of having no handrails, but equally operators need to put some thought into where the stop buttons should be placed. The rear of the seats, like the Enviros that GNE have recently purchased, is ideal.

(05 Feb 2020, 8:49 am)Jimmi Harrogate Bus Station is rather irritating for someone like myself as I'm a bit impatient and there's not much space to navigate your way through it, always either get stuck behind someone walking really slowly and can't get past them or people stand in a position that makes it so you can't get past them.

Yes, I'd agree with that! It's got a similar issue to the re-development of Durham though, and that the footprint doesn't give them a lot to play with...

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05 Feb 2020, 11:35 pm #773

(05 Feb 2020, 12:32 am)streetdeckfan I'm a big fan of EVs, although with an electric drivetrain being so quiet, it's really noticeable when the bus itself is of low quality. The Yutongs for example, when they had the trial on the X66, it was creaker than the windows on the E200s! and you could fee the weight of the batteries on the roof going round corners. The same with the E200 EV that GNE trialed last year, things that were normally not noticeable over the sound of the engine, were very noticeable! Going off what you wrote, it seems like this wasn't an issue with the Volvos so that's also great to see!

The quality difference between these and the Streetair EVs that Lothian have is streets apart. The Volvo is just a far superior product, but having used the hybrids up in Edinburgh, I wasn't expecting anything else.

Never managed to catch up with the Yutong, so quite looking forward to their arrival up here.

(05 Feb 2020, 12:32 am)streetdeckfan The issue you mentioned about the tables not having stop buttons is the same issue with the E400s, if you're sitting at a table, you have to lean over and push the stop button in front of someone else, which can be quite awkward. Also, I've been on an E400 a few times where the stop buttons on the seats haven't worked at all, so it was only sheer luck that someone downstairs was getting off at my stop, as I didn't have time to walk to the front of the bus to push the only proper stop button (which is a chore in and of itself with the low height upstairs!)

It's strange. Given where the bell is placed on the side wall, I don't think I'd be best pleased with someone reaching over in that area.

I'm yet to be convinced of the latest fad of having no handrails, but equally operators need to put some thought into where the stop buttons should be placed. The rear of the seats, like the Enviros that GNE have recently purchased, is ideal.

(05 Feb 2020, 8:49 am)Jimmi Harrogate Bus Station is rather irritating for someone like myself as I'm a bit impatient and there's not much space to navigate your way through it, always either get stuck behind someone walking really slowly and can't get past them or people stand in a position that makes it so you can't get past them.

Yes, I'd agree with that! It's got a similar issue to the re-development of Durham though, and that the footprint doesn't give them a lot to play with...


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05 Feb 2020, 11:45 pm #774
(05 Feb 2020, 11:35 pm)Adrian The quality difference between these and the Streetair EVs that Lothian have is streets apart. The Volvo is just a far superior product, but having used the hybrids up in Edinburgh, I wasn't expecting anything else.

Never managed to catch up with the Yutong, so quite looking forward to their arrival up here.


It's strange. Given where the bell is placed on the side wall, I don't think I'd be best pleased with someone reaching over in that area.

I'm yet to be convinced of the latest fad of having no handrails, but equally operators need to put some thought into where the stop buttons should be placed. The rear of the seats, like the Enviros that GNE have recently purchased, is ideal.

I'm looking forward to the Yutongs, I'm just hoping the quality has improved since the demo, the same way GNE's E400s are miles better than any others I've tried.

I personally think proper handrails should be required. I'm pretty sure I could break one of the SmartSeats if I tried, I'm tempted to try but I don't want to get in trouble!
I've mentioned in the past the incident I had where the driver forgot to stop until last minute and literally did an emergency stop as I was standing up. If it hadn't been for the handrails at the top of the stairs I would have been through the windscreen, grabbing one of those tiny handles on the seats would have been impossible
streetdeckfan
05 Feb 2020, 11:45 pm #774

(05 Feb 2020, 11:35 pm)Adrian The quality difference between these and the Streetair EVs that Lothian have is streets apart. The Volvo is just a far superior product, but having used the hybrids up in Edinburgh, I wasn't expecting anything else.

Never managed to catch up with the Yutong, so quite looking forward to their arrival up here.


It's strange. Given where the bell is placed on the side wall, I don't think I'd be best pleased with someone reaching over in that area.

I'm yet to be convinced of the latest fad of having no handrails, but equally operators need to put some thought into where the stop buttons should be placed. The rear of the seats, like the Enviros that GNE have recently purchased, is ideal.

I'm looking forward to the Yutongs, I'm just hoping the quality has improved since the demo, the same way GNE's E400s are miles better than any others I've tried.

I personally think proper handrails should be required. I'm pretty sure I could break one of the SmartSeats if I tried, I'm tempted to try but I don't want to get in trouble!
I've mentioned in the past the incident I had where the driver forgot to stop until last minute and literally did an emergency stop as I was standing up. If it hadn't been for the handrails at the top of the stairs I would have been through the windscreen, grabbing one of those tiny handles on the seats would have been impossible

Andreos1



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06 Feb 2020, 9:18 pm #775
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-yo...e-51406005

It was like a can of beans!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
06 Feb 2020, 9:18 pm #775

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-yo...e-51406005

It was like a can of beans!


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Jimmi



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06 Feb 2020, 9:22 pm #776
(06 Feb 2020, 9:18 pm)Andreos1 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-yo...e-51406005

It was like a can of beans!
Bus involved was Reliance Motor Services V223LGC

That Bridge has claimed a few deckers roofs over the years
Jimmi
06 Feb 2020, 9:22 pm #776

(06 Feb 2020, 9:18 pm)Andreos1 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-yo...e-51406005

It was like a can of beans!
Bus involved was Reliance Motor Services V223LGC

That Bridge has claimed a few deckers roofs over the years

06 Feb 2020, 9:48 pm #777
(06 Feb 2020, 9:22 pm)Jimmi Bus involved was Reliance Motor Services V223LGC

That Bridge has claimed a few deckers roofs over the years

It's obviously Network Rail's fault. The marking on the bridge weren't clear enough!
streetdeckfan
06 Feb 2020, 9:48 pm #777

(06 Feb 2020, 9:22 pm)Jimmi Bus involved was Reliance Motor Services V223LGC

That Bridge has claimed a few deckers roofs over the years

It's obviously Network Rail's fault. The marking on the bridge weren't clear enough!

Andreos1



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06 Feb 2020, 10:16 pm #778
(06 Feb 2020, 9:22 pm)Jimmi Bus involved was Reliance Motor Services V223LGC

That Bridge has claimed a few deckers roofs over the years

Amazing when you think how low the bridge is and how well known it is!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
06 Feb 2020, 10:16 pm #778

(06 Feb 2020, 9:22 pm)Jimmi Bus involved was Reliance Motor Services V223LGC

That Bridge has claimed a few deckers roofs over the years

Amazing when you think how low the bridge is and how well known it is!


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

citaro5284



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21 Feb 2020, 5:31 pm #779
I see Alex Hornby has tweeted that 19 ADL MMC400's are on order for CityZap and Witchway - Is this the first ADL double decks for Transdev for a while?

https://twitter.com/alextransdev/status/...61219?s=20
citaro5284
21 Feb 2020, 5:31 pm #779

I see Alex Hornby has tweeted that 19 ADL MMC400's are on order for CityZap and Witchway - Is this the first ADL double decks for Transdev for a while?

https://twitter.com/alextransdev/status/...61219?s=20

Jimmi



10,969
21 Feb 2020, 5:52 pm #780
(21 Feb 2020, 5:31 pm)citaro5284 I see Alex Hornby has tweeted that 19 ADL MMC400's are on order for CityZap and Witchway - Is this the first ADL double decks for Transdev for a while?

https://twitter.com/alextransdev/status/...61219?s=20
Excluding the ex London E400s that joined the fleet last year, yes they will be.
Jimmi
21 Feb 2020, 5:52 pm #780

(21 Feb 2020, 5:31 pm)citaro5284 I see Alex Hornby has tweeted that 19 ADL MMC400's are on order for CityZap and Witchway - Is this the first ADL double decks for Transdev for a while?

https://twitter.com/alextransdev/status/...61219?s=20
Excluding the ex London E400s that joined the fleet last year, yes they will be.

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