Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
Would GNE get many passengers if buses were extend back to Seaburn, Witherwack, etc..
I'm thinking of reworking the old SimpliCity 36 maybe even the 36A/36C, 161/164 and X97
(12 Jan 2022, 10:32 pm)ASX_Terranova Would GNE get many passengers if buses were extend back to Seaburn, Witherwack, etc..
I'm thinking of reworking the old SimpliCity 36 maybe even the 36A/36C, 161/164 and X97
(12 Jan 2022, 10:32 pm)ASX_Terranova Would GNE get many passengers if buses were extend back to Seaburn, Witherwack, etc..
I'm thinking of reworking the old SimpliCity 36 maybe even the 36A/36C, 161/164 and X97
Is there absolutely no demand from South Shields or Sunderland for a bus to Metrocentre? Although the Metrocentre doesn't need any more buses, I do wonder if this would be an option particularly as I expect the BSIP could see the 27 withdrawn and buses integrated with the Metro.
The 20 could follow the 516 route to Marsden but then go right along Coast Road passing Whitburn to Sunderland if GNE wanted to run a bus around South Shields. Good to have a Shields to Sunderland bus service (this will likely be withdrawn when the Metro is extended to link Shields and Sunderland).
(15 Jan 2022, 12:59 pm)OrangeArrow49 Is there absolutely no demand from South Shields or Sunderland for a bus to Metrocentre? Although the Metrocentre doesn't need any more buses, I do wonder if this would be an option particularly as I expect the BSIP could see the 27 withdrawn and buses integrated with the Metro.
The 20 could follow the 516 route to Marsden but then go right along Coast Road passing Whitburn to Sunderland if GNE wanted to run a bus around South Shields. Good to have a Shields to Sunderland bus service (this will likely be withdrawn when the Metro is extended to link Shields and Sunderland).
(15 Jan 2022, 12:59 pm)OrangeArrow49 Is there absolutely no demand from South Shields or Sunderland for a bus to Metrocentre? Although the Metrocentre doesn't need any more buses, I do wonder if this would be an option particularly as I expect the BSIP could see the 27 withdrawn and buses integrated with the Metro.
The 20 could follow the 516 route to Marsden but then go right along Coast Road passing Whitburn to Sunderland if GNE wanted to run a bus around South Shields. Good to have a Shields to Sunderland bus service (this will likely be withdrawn when the Metro is extended to link Shields and Sunderland).
(15 Jan 2022, 12:59 pm)OrangeArrow49 The 20 could follow the 516 route to Marsden but then go right along Coast Road passing Whitburn to Sunderland if GNE wanted to run a bus around South Shields. Good to have a Shields to Sunderland bus service (this will likely be withdrawn when the Metro is extended to link Shields and Sunderland).
(15 Jan 2022, 12:59 pm)OrangeArrow49 The 20 could follow the 516 route to Marsden but then go right along Coast Road passing Whitburn to Sunderland if GNE wanted to run a bus around South Shields. Good to have a Shields to Sunderland bus service (this will likely be withdrawn when the Metro is extended to link Shields and Sunderland).
(15 Jan 2022, 4:25 pm)deanmachine Even if the Metro is extended from South Shields to Sunderland like they've been hinting, it won't be faster than the 20 currently is, not unless they plan on gong through Harton underground.
(15 Jan 2022, 4:25 pm)deanmachine Even if the Metro is extended from South Shields to Sunderland like they've been hinting, it won't be faster than the 20 currently is, not unless they plan on gong through Harton underground.
(15 Jan 2022, 4:25 pm)deanmachine Even if the Metro is extended from South Shields to Sunderland like they've been hinting, it won't be faster than the 20 currently is, not unless they plan on gong through Harton underground.
(15 Jan 2022, 4:25 pm)deanmachine Even if the Metro is extended from South Shields to Sunderland like they've been hinting, it won't be faster than the 20 currently is, not unless they plan on gong through Harton underground.
(15 Jan 2022, 4:37 pm)MurdnunoC The route which was originally mooted was the West Harton Line which might have generated a journey time comparable to the 20 depending on how many stations were built. Another option was reinstating the curve from Tyne Dock station to the Tyne Dock freight line which, once again, might have generated a comparable journey time. The latest idea mooted in the press, operating to Hebburn and onto the Leamside Line using the old Monkton Colliery alignment, then looping around to South Hylton before continuing Sunderland is the most gluebag yet and certainly won't win any passengers wishing to travel between South Shields and Sunderland.
None of this matters though as we'll all probably be dead before any ground is broken.
(15 Jan 2022, 4:37 pm)MurdnunoC The route which was originally mooted was the West Harton Line which might have generated a journey time comparable to the 20 depending on how many stations were built. Another option was reinstating the curve from Tyne Dock station to the Tyne Dock freight line which, once again, might have generated a comparable journey time. The latest idea mooted in the press, operating to Hebburn and onto the Leamside Line using the old Monkton Colliery alignment, then looping around to South Hylton before continuing Sunderland is the most gluebag yet and certainly won't win any passengers wishing to travel between South Shields and Sunderland.
None of this matters though as we'll all probably be dead before any ground is broken.
I used to volunteer at Souter Lighthouse and I was disappointed it didn't have a Go North East bus, especially as it could have with the 20 serving Fulwell. Buses are not the best way of getting around because they focus on certain leisure and employment sites, and don't consider someone might actually work or volunteer anywhere in the North East.
(15 Jan 2022, 4:49 pm)OrangeArrow49 I used to volunteer at Souter Lighthouse and I was disappointed it didn't have a Go North East bus, especially as it could have with the 20 serving Fulwell. Buses are not the best way of getting around because they focus on certain leisure and employment sites, and don't consider someone might actually work or volunteer anywhere in the North East.
(15 Jan 2022, 4:49 pm)OrangeArrow49 I used to volunteer at Souter Lighthouse and I was disappointed it didn't have a Go North East bus, especially as it could have with the 20 serving Fulwell. Buses are not the best way of getting around because they focus on certain leisure and employment sites, and don't consider someone might actually work or volunteer anywhere in the North East.
(15 Jan 2022, 5:02 pm)Adrian You've got the regular E1 (or even E2) from Sunderland that takes you within easy walking distance.
Someone else isn't going to run a bus, just because you're being utterly ridiculous in not using the one provided.
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(15 Jan 2022, 5:02 pm)Adrian You've got the regular E1 (or even E2) from Sunderland that takes you within easy walking distance.
Someone else isn't going to run a bus, just because you're being utterly ridiculous in not using the one provided.
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(15 Jan 2022, 5:12 pm)OrangeArrow49 I did (and would) use the E1/E2 (I only don't use SNE in Newcastle and for a number of valid reasons) but I now use a GNE to jet because its the cheapest option.
(15 Jan 2022, 5:14 pm)MurdnunoC Where do you jet to with GNE?
Do GNE jet to Consett Airport?
(15 Jan 2022, 5:14 pm)MurdnunoC Where do you jet to with GNE?
Do GNE jet to Consett Airport?
(15 Jan 2022, 5:12 pm)OrangeArrow49 I did (and would) use the E1/E2 (I only don't use SNE in Newcastle and for a number of valid reasons) but I now use a GNE to jet because its the cheapest option.
(15 Jan 2022, 5:37 pm)Adrian How can it be the cheapest option, if they don't take you there?
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(15 Jan 2022, 5:37 pm)Adrian How can it be the cheapest option, if they don't take you there?
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(15 Jan 2022, 5:02 pm)Adrian You've got the regular E1 (or even E2) from Sunderland that takes you within easy walking distance.
Someone else isn't going to run a bus, just because you're being utterly ridiculous in not using the one provided.
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(15 Jan 2022, 5:02 pm)Adrian You've got the regular E1 (or even E2) from Sunderland that takes you within easy walking distance.
Someone else isn't going to run a bus, just because you're being utterly ridiculous in not using the one provided.
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(15 Jan 2022, 5:44 pm)OrangeArrow49 I'll tell you what's utterly ridiculous, is expecting someone to continue to be depressed and borderline suicidal with anxiety, stress and feeling useless because a piece of crap bus doesn't turn up or turns up late every day so I lose volunteering opportunities and employment. Do you think its good to feel stressed and worthless and powerless? Relying on the same crap services for years knowing they will just keep letting you down? Just do nothing about it and suffer until you die of stress or suicide? You have no idea what you are talking about. Took years to make the difficult and brave choice to move on and try something different and I only wish I'd done it sooner. Complaints are resolved, then it goes back to how it was. Same old shit over and over again. Get some context you small minded idiot and then you can tell me about what I should and shouldn't be doing! Maybe if you'd been through as much shit as I have you might want a different bus too! Unfortunately I can't use a shit bus that's in Gosforth when I'm waiting in Blakelaw to get to the Metrocentre after my shift has started!
(15 Jan 2022, 5:44 pm)OrangeArrow49 I'll tell you what's utterly ridiculous, is expecting someone to continue to be depressed and borderline suicidal with anxiety, stress and feeling useless because a piece of crap bus doesn't turn up or turns up late every day so I lose volunteering opportunities and employment. Do you think its good to feel stressed and worthless and powerless? Relying on the same crap services for years knowing they will just keep letting you down? Just do nothing about it and suffer until you die of stress or suicide? You have no idea what you are talking about. Took years to make the difficult and brave choice to move on and try something different and I only wish I'd done it sooner. Complaints are resolved, then it goes back to how it was. Same old shit over and over again. Get some context you small minded idiot and then you can tell me about what I should and shouldn't be doing! Maybe if you'd been through as much shit as I have you might want a different bus too! Unfortunately I can't use a shit bus that's in Gosforth when I'm waiting in Blakelaw to get to the Metrocentre after my shift has started!
(15 Jan 2022, 4:37 pm)MurdnunoC The route which was originally mooted was the West Harton Line which might have generated a journey time comparable to the 20 depending on how many stations were built. Another option was reinstating the curve from Tyne Dock station to the Tyne Dock freight line which, once again, might have generated a comparable journey time. The latest idea mooted in the press, operating to Hebburn and onto the Leamside Line using the old Monkton Colliery alignment, then looping around to South Hylton before continuing Sunderland is the most gluebag yet and certainly won't win any passengers wishing to travel between South Shields and Sunderland.
None of this matters though as we'll all probably be dead before any ground is broken.
(15 Jan 2022, 4:37 pm)MurdnunoC The route which was originally mooted was the West Harton Line which might have generated a journey time comparable to the 20 depending on how many stations were built. Another option was reinstating the curve from Tyne Dock station to the Tyne Dock freight line which, once again, might have generated a comparable journey time. The latest idea mooted in the press, operating to Hebburn and onto the Leamside Line using the old Monkton Colliery alignment, then looping around to South Hylton before continuing Sunderland is the most gluebag yet and certainly won't win any passengers wishing to travel between South Shields and Sunderland.
None of this matters though as we'll all probably be dead before any ground is broken.
(15 Jan 2022, 7:43 pm)cbma06 If I remember that the old Sunderland to South Shields line , just after east boldon station the line used to split off to the right and then rejoin on the railway line to South Shields just before Tyne dock station, you can still see the layout still on goggle maps and it doesn’t look any part have been built on
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(15 Jan 2022, 7:43 pm)cbma06 If I remember that the old Sunderland to South Shields line , just after east boldon station the line used to split off to the right and then rejoin on the railway line to South Shields just before Tyne dock station, you can still see the layout still on goggle maps and it doesn’t look any part have been built on
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(15 Jan 2022, 6:11 pm)Adrian I live on an Arriva Durham dominated corridor, so I could probably write a book about an unreliable and poor service over the last 8 years. Sadly that is who the principal operator is, and best will in the world, I've got no control over it.
I don't think its good feeling stressed out about public transport, and clearly transport operators have a lot to do in improving public confidence up to a level where that people *want* to use buses, but having a personal policy of completely avoiding one operator and expecting another to run services instead, isn't the answer. You need a reality check if you think that's going to happen. I don't like the fact that TPE are the only operator running between Newcastle and Manchester directly, but I don't expect an open access operator to take pity on me and run the route in competition.
If you think there's a chance a bus might not turn up or might run late, then plan your route to get you somewhere earlier than you need to be. It's your responsibility to get to somewhere on time, and in purchasing a ticket with any operator, you're accepting that it's not their responsibility.
(15 Jan 2022, 6:11 pm)Adrian I live on an Arriva Durham dominated corridor, so I could probably write a book about an unreliable and poor service over the last 8 years. Sadly that is who the principal operator is, and best will in the world, I've got no control over it.
I don't think its good feeling stressed out about public transport, and clearly transport operators have a lot to do in improving public confidence up to a level where that people *want* to use buses, but having a personal policy of completely avoiding one operator and expecting another to run services instead, isn't the answer. You need a reality check if you think that's going to happen. I don't like the fact that TPE are the only operator running between Newcastle and Manchester directly, but I don't expect an open access operator to take pity on me and run the route in competition.
If you think there's a chance a bus might not turn up or might run late, then plan your route to get you somewhere earlier than you need to be. It's your responsibility to get to somewhere on time, and in purchasing a ticket with any operator, you're accepting that it's not their responsibility.