Tender Discussion Thread

[Tom]

So we now have a few results

K1/K2 Killingworth locals - Phoenix Coaches
33 Newcastle - Hollywood Ave - Kingsleys

Will Phoenix use a Solo on the K1/K2? And what will the 17 use on a night as they only have three Solos, MX07EVU is usually used on the 19, so that leaves the white one and the Asda Rider one. The PVR for the evening 17's is 3.

[Adrian]

So we now have a few results

K1/K2 Killingworth locals - Phoenix Coaches
33 Newcastle - Hollywood Ave - Kingsleys

Interesting. Wonder if the 33 accepts Stagecoach Megarider tickets? Similar to how the M2/M3 ran by Arriva accept GNE tickets. If it doesn't, one would suggest that it doesn't provide value for money.

[tyresmoke]

Interesting. Wonder if the 33 accepts Stagecoach Megarider tickets? Similar to how the M2/M3 ran by Arriva accept GNE tickets. If it doesn't, one would suggest that it doesn't provide value for money.

Slight difference in that being GNE normally run the M2/M3 during the day though? Stagecoach have dropped the 33 entirely and this is a tendered replacement to keep the service running. Will be interesting to see what they use as it is down for a Euro3 vehicle!

[Tom]

Slight difference in that being GNE normally run the M2/M3 during the day though? Stagecoach have dropped the 33 entirely and this is a tendered replacement to keep the service running. Will be interesting to see what they use as it is down for a Euro3 vehicle!

I personally think Phoenix are taking a bit too much on!

They only have three solos, don't they? Or will the K1/K2 be operated by something else, which will interwork with the 17?

[tyresmoke]

I personally think Phoenix are taking a bit too much on!

They only have three solos, don't they? Or will the K1/K2 be operated by something else, which will interwork with the 17?

K1/K2 has a size restriction on it, nothing bigger than an M710 Solo.
I'm sure it was mentioned recently about Phoenix buying a 53 plate Solo though, so they would have 4. Let's not forget that the K1/K2 is finished by 1555 on a weekday so they wouldn't have much issue with operating the 17 (only evening/Sundays)

[Tom]

K1/K2 has a size restriction on it, nothing bigger than an M710 Solo.
I'm sure it was mentioned recently about Phoenix buying a 53 plate Solo though, so they would have 4. Let's not forget that the K1/K2 is finished by 1555 on a weekday so they wouldn't have much issue with operating the 17 (only evening/Sundays)

Oh, they're operating it on Sundays too?

[tyresmoke]

Oh, they're operating it on Sundays too?

No sorry just looked at the tender and it is Mon-Sat evenings only.
Min Capacity 36, Euro 3...

[Adrian]

I personally think Phoenix are taking a bit too much on!

They only have three solos, don't they? Or will the K1/K2 be operated by something else, which will interwork with the 17?

Maybe a bit of that, but I hope it helps them grow. They seem to make a good job of the routes they've got at present.

[Tom]

Maybe a bit of that, but I hope it helps them grow. They seem to make a good job of the routes they've got at present.

They do, friendly drivers, good punctuality, clean buses.

[tyresmoke]

Maybe a bit of that, but I hope it helps them grow. They seem to make a good job of the routes they've got at present.

Let's not forget they're a massive company - just the bus operation may be small but they have lots of minibuses (around 30-40?) and the taxi operation is pretty huge too.

[Adrian]

Let's not forget they're a massive company - just the bus operation may be small but they have lots of minibuses (around 30-40?) and the taxi operation is pretty huge too.

I hadn't realised how big they are, but I've had a good look around their website now.

[tyresmoke]

Tom asked about the tenders for March 2014 somewhere and I can't find it now so thought I would post in this thread seeing as it is the best place for it anyway...

K1/K2 Killingworth locals - won by Phoenix Coaches
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 1 - size restriction 7100mm length
15/15A Kenton Shops - Walker
Saturday daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 4
17 Rosehill - Cramlington - won by Phoenix Coaches
Mon-Sat evening - Euro 3 - PVR 3
18 Benton Estate - Walker
Saturday daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 3
32/32A Four Lane Ends - Benwell (- Newcastle on Sat only)
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 3 (6 on Sat) - size restriction 11000mm length
includes service 16 Four Lane Ends - Byker Sat daytime
33 Newcastle - Hollywood Ave - won by Kingsleys
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 2
35 Newcastle - Red House Farm
Saturday daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 2
71A Kingston Park - Throckley Ind Est
Mon-Sat eve, Sunday daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 1

[Tom]

Tom asked about the tenders for March 2014 somewhere and I can't find it now so thought I would post in this thread seeing as it is the best place for it anyway...

K1/K2 Killingworth locals - won by Phoenix Coaches
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 1 - size restriction 7100mm length
15/15A Kenton Shops - Walker
Saturday daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 4
17 Rosehill - Cramlington - won by Phoenix Coaches
Mon-Sat evening - Euro 3 - PVR 3
18 Benton Estate - Walker
Saturday daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 3
32/32A Four Lane Ends - Benwell (- Newcastle on Sat only)
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 3 (6 on Sat) - size restriction 11000mm length
includes service 16 Four Lane Ends - Byker Sat daytime
33 Newcastle - Hollywood Ave - won by Kingsleys
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 2
35 Newcastle - Red House Farm
Saturday daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 2
71A Kingston Park - Throckley Ind Est
Mon-Sat eve, Sunday daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 1

I did - Thanks for posting that.

[Michael]

It looks like some of the contracts have automatically re-newed because some say they ran out in 2013 but bus companies still run them

[Tom]

Tom asked about the tenders for March 2014 somewhere and I can't find it now so thought I would post in this thread seeing as it is the best place for it anyway...

K1/K2 Killingworth locals - won by Phoenix Coaches
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 1 - size restriction 7100mm length
15/15A Kenton Shops - Walker
Saturday daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 4
17 Rosehill - Cramlington - won by Phoenix Coaches
Mon-Sat evening - Euro 3 - PVR 3
18 Benton Estate - Walker
Saturday daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 3
32/32A Four Lane Ends - Benwell (- Newcastle on Sat only)
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 3 (6 on Sat) - size restriction 11000mm length
includes service 16 Four Lane Ends - Byker Sat daytime
33 Newcastle - Hollywood Ave - won by Kingsleys
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 2
35 Newcastle - Red House Farm
Saturday daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 2
71A Kingston Park - Throckley Ind Est
Mon-Sat eve, Sunday daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 1

Having looked at this list properly, it's quite interesting. Seems that Stagecoach won't be operating any of the 32/33/35 on Saturday or the 18? The new 16 looks interesting

[peter]

Does anyone know when the Great Park and Ride X40 and 40A contract will next be up for renewal?

[Tom]

Tom asked about the tenders for March 2014 somewhere and I can't find it now so thought I would post in this thread seeing as it is the best place for it anyway...

K1/K2 Killingworth locals - won by Phoenix Coaches
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 1 - size restriction 7100mm length
15/15A Kenton Shops - Walker
Saturday daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 4
17 Rosehill - Cramlington - won by Phoenix Coaches
Mon-Sat evening - Euro 3 - PVR 3
18 Benton Estate - Walker
Saturday daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 3
32/32A Four Lane Ends - Benwell (- Newcastle on Sat only)
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 3 (6 on Sat) - size restriction 11000mm length
includes service 16 Four Lane Ends - Byker Sat daytime
33 Newcastle - Hollywood Ave - won by Kingsleys
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 2
35 Newcastle - Red House Farm
Saturday daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 2
71A Kingston Park - Throckley Ind Est
Mon-Sat eve, Sunday daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 1

Heard anymore about who has won these contracts?

[Kuyoyo]

PB1099280/12 - CENTRAL TAXIS GATESHEAD LTD, 53 - 55 HIGH STREET, FELLING, GATESHEAD, NE10 9LU

Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: KINGSTON PARK METRO STATION
Finish Point: THROCKLEY INDUSTRIAL ESTATE
Via:
Service Number: 71A
Service Type: Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 23-MAR-2014
Other Details: MONDAY TO SUNDAY

Gateshead Central Taxis have won the contract for the 71A.

[tyresmoke]

Heard anymore about who has won these contracts?

GCT have today registered the 71A.

Code:

PB1099280/12 - CENTRAL TAXIS GATESHEAD LTD, 53 - 55 HIGH STREET, FELLING, GATESHEAD, NE10 9LU
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: KINGSTON PARK METRO STATION
Finish Point: THROCKLEY INDUSTRIAL ESTATE
Via:
Service Number: 71A
Service Type: Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 23-MAR-2014
Other Details: MONDAY TO SUNDAY

[Tom]

I know the 74/688/689 are up for tender, are Go North East retaining these services?