(31 Dec 2013, 12:09 pm)CatsFast101 Under the same token I was given the information a few weeks back but shared it last week, plans may have changed since then, it's been rumoured that the remaining fab 56 Solars may be branded for X30/X31 or even the 29, hence why I shared some information. Plans may have changed I for one want newer vehicles for the X7 sooner rather than later.
(31 Dec 2013, 12:09 pm)CatsFast101 I just sometimes feel that you're quick to shut down anyone else information in favour of you're own when no one really knows information is of more regard (apart from GNE management on this forum).
(30 Dec 2013, 8:58 pm)Rob I wouldn't be too sure about the X7 information. Following the arrival of the Fab Fifty Six B9TLs, all of Deptford's Solar will be reassigned to other roles, following service changes. All SPD vehicles are expected to be withdrawn from the fleet at this stage. The X7 is certainly a one to watch, an upgrade is certainly needed.
(31 Dec 2013, 12:09 pm)CatsFast101 Under the same token I was given the information a few weeks back but shared it last week, plans may have changed since then, it's been rumoured that the remaining fab 56 Solars may be branded for X30/X31 or even the 29, hence why I shared some information. Plans may have changed I for one want newer vehicles for the X7 sooner rather than later.
(31 Dec 2013, 12:09 pm)CatsFast101 I just sometimes feel that you're quick to shut down anyone else information in favour of you're own when no one really knows information is of more regard (apart from GNE management on this forum).
(30 Dec 2013, 8:58 pm)Rob I wouldn't be too sure about the X7 information. Following the arrival of the Fab Fifty Six B9TLs, all of Deptford's Solar will be reassigned to other roles, following service changes. All SPD vehicles are expected to be withdrawn from the fleet at this stage. The X7 is certainly a one to watch, an upgrade is certainly needed.
I posted this on the latest thread to:
Michael - we made a conscious decision not to add this to the website. Bus briefings will be on buses soon and the website will be updated at the end of this week.
From GNE on Facebook so by end of this week we should changes =)
(31 Dec 2013, 11:48 am)Dan Do demonstrator vehicles being tested on specific services always guarantee an upgrade on those services?
Isn't it just to get an idea of how well they'd cope on different sorts of services, in comparison to the vehicles already offered on that service?
An Enviro 400 demonstrator was trialled on service X1 a good few months ago. This service had just received investment not long before that. The X1 is a very good service for demonstration vehicles because there are different things required of the vehicles which are allocated to that service - dual carriageways, tight bends, uphill, downhill...
(31 Dec 2013, 11:48 am)Dan Do demonstrator vehicles being tested on specific services always guarantee an upgrade on those services?
Isn't it just to get an idea of how well they'd cope on different sorts of services, in comparison to the vehicles already offered on that service?
An Enviro 400 demonstrator was trialled on service X1 a good few months ago. This service had just received investment not long before that. The X1 is a very good service for demonstration vehicles because there are different things required of the vehicles which are allocated to that service - dual carriageways, tight bends, uphill, downhill...
(31 Dec 2013, 1:07 pm)northtynelinks2 Was the E400 trialled? News spread that it was only loaned to help out while one of the B9s were sent back to Wrights because it had a problem. As i said, that was just news i heard.
(31 Dec 2013, 1:07 pm)northtynelinks2 Was the E400 trialled? News spread that it was only loaned to help out while one of the B9s were sent back to Wrights because it had a problem. As i said, that was just news i heard.
(31 Dec 2013, 12:51 pm)Michael A reply on Facebook about the Sunderland Changes...
Michael - we made a conscious decision not to add this to the website. Bus briefings will be on buses soon and the website will be updated at the end of this week.
Wooo =D
(31 Dec 2013, 12:51 pm)Michael A reply on Facebook about the Sunderland Changes...
Michael - we made a conscious decision not to add this to the website. Bus briefings will be on buses soon and the website will be updated at the end of this week.
Wooo =D
(31 Dec 2013, 1:36 pm)CatsFast101 I think they possibly haven't put changes up to not confuse people with Christmas services but changes should of been put back a week if clashing with Christmas was an issue.
(31 Dec 2013, 1:36 pm)CatsFast101 I think they possibly haven't put changes up to not confuse people with Christmas services but changes should of been put back a week if clashing with Christmas was an issue.
(31 Dec 2013, 11:48 am)Dan Do demonstrator vehicles being tested on specific services always guarantee an upgrade on those services?
Isn't it just to get an idea of how well they'd cope on different sorts of services, in comparison to the vehicles already offered on that service?
An Enviro 400 demonstrator was trialled on service X1 a good few months ago. This service had just received investment not long before that. The X1 is a very good service for demonstration vehicles because there are different things required of the vehicles which are allocated to that service - dual carriageways, tight bends, uphill, downhill...
(31 Dec 2013, 11:48 am)Dan Do demonstrator vehicles being tested on specific services always guarantee an upgrade on those services?
Isn't it just to get an idea of how well they'd cope on different sorts of services, in comparison to the vehicles already offered on that service?
An Enviro 400 demonstrator was trialled on service X1 a good few months ago. This service had just received investment not long before that. The X1 is a very good service for demonstration vehicles because there are different things required of the vehicles which are allocated to that service - dual carriageways, tight bends, uphill, downhill...
(31 Dec 2013, 2:24 pm)palatine3833 As far as I recall, the E400 was a loan to cover for a gemini or two that had to go back and have work done on them.
"There have been no changes to the vehicle allocation during the week, however, an ADL Enviro 400 demonstrator, registration mark SN61 DFK, is on loan at Washington depot and is being used on service X1. It has been allocated fleet number 9136."
(31 Dec 2013, 2:24 pm)palatine3833 As far as I recall, the E400 was a loan to cover for a gemini or two that had to go back and have work done on them.
"There have been no changes to the vehicle allocation during the week, however, an ADL Enviro 400 demonstrator, registration mark SN61 DFK, is on loan at Washington depot and is being used on service X1. It has been allocated fleet number 9136."
(31 Dec 2013, 2:27 pm)Dan Yawn... I must love repeating myself...
Here's another example instead. My point still stands, because of that example - as I've just said in Post 1877, in response to northtynelinks2.
Point being - a demonstration vehicle does not guarantee a service will receive that vehicle or even investment at all. You ideally trial demonstration vehicles on your most challenging services whilst bearing in mind the service in which that vehicle could serve if it was ever to be purchased by the company. You ideally do that over a longer period of time too (let me remind everyone of just how long the Versa and Streetlite were here for), rather than Arriva's week-long trial of the Versa a few weeks ago... It would have been on familiarisation for longer than it was actually used in service!
For the record, may I step in with my admin hat on and suggest we don't discuss the matter of a fault having developed on the Gemini vehicles resulting in the Enviro 400 vehicle loan? We've had one or two complaints in the past when discussing problems with manufacturers, and I'd like to avoid having that conversation with our GNE reps again!
As far as we enthusiasts should have been concerned, the vehicle was a demonstration vehicle (as per quote from GNE's official "Archive" document below). I remember members of this forum asked employees on the "Open Line" facility, and that's what they were told then - nothing about a fault being developed on buses and them needing to be sent back, so I suggest it stays that way.
(31 Dec 2013, 2:27 pm)Dan Yawn... I must love repeating myself...
Here's another example instead. My point still stands, because of that example - as I've just said in Post 1877, in response to northtynelinks2.
Point being - a demonstration vehicle does not guarantee a service will receive that vehicle or even investment at all. You ideally trial demonstration vehicles on your most challenging services whilst bearing in mind the service in which that vehicle could serve if it was ever to be purchased by the company. You ideally do that over a longer period of time too (let me remind everyone of just how long the Versa and Streetlite were here for), rather than Arriva's week-long trial of the Versa a few weeks ago... It would have been on familiarisation for longer than it was actually used in service!
For the record, may I step in with my admin hat on and suggest we don't discuss the matter of a fault having developed on the Gemini vehicles resulting in the Enviro 400 vehicle loan? We've had one or two complaints in the past when discussing problems with manufacturers, and I'd like to avoid having that conversation with our GNE reps again!
As far as we enthusiasts should have been concerned, the vehicle was a demonstration vehicle (as per quote from GNE's official "Archive" document below). I remember members of this forum asked employees on the "Open Line" facility, and that's what they were told then - nothing about a fault being developed on buses and them needing to be sent back, so I suggest it stays that way.
(31 Dec 2013, 3:11 pm)Dan To whom, and can you remember where?
(31 Dec 2013, 3:11 pm)Dan To whom, and can you remember where?
(31 Dec 2013, 2:08 pm)gtomlinson I see our own Greg having a bash at GNE over the service changes.
(31 Dec 2013, 2:08 pm)gtomlinson I see our own Greg having a bash at GNE over the service changes.
(31 Dec 2013, 3:21 pm)citaro5284 I cannot see his post, have you a link?
(31 Dec 2013, 3:21 pm)citaro5284 I cannot see his post, have you a link?
(31 Dec 2013, 3:35 pm)Dan http://www.facebook.com/simplyGNE/posts/...d=45940713&offset=0&total_comments=4
The comments are showing weirdly, but see above link
How can it be said that services are being reduced and changes being made for the worse when the details aren't yet available? Surely it would be sensible to wait until the end of the week to see the details of the changes before commenting if they are better or worse?
(31 Dec 2013, 3:35 pm)Dan http://www.facebook.com/simplyGNE/posts/...d=45940713&offset=0&total_comments=4
The comments are showing weirdly, but see above link
(31 Dec 2013, 3:42 pm)Crusader How can it be said that services are being reduced and changes being made for the worse when the details aren't yet available? Surely it would be sensible to wait until the end of the week to see the details of the changes before commenting if they are better or worse?
(31 Dec 2013, 3:42 pm)Crusader How can it be said that services are being reduced and changes being made for the worse when the details aren't yet available? Surely it would be sensible to wait until the end of the week to see the details of the changes before commenting if they are better or worse?
