Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
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Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(04 Nov 2017, 10:07 pm)OrangeArrow49 Wrote: Yes, that makes sense.

Thank you. I guess it was introduced when the metrocentre opened. Old timetables are very interesting, please send me a copy if you can, it would be much appreciated.


There's a high percentage of timetables that I have scanned over the past year or so of timetables from the 80's and 90's which have been loaded onto the NEB site, but once the bygone era/archive section has been sorted and active as there is quite a volume of literature.


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if I am right the 100 started in 1987 not long after the Metrocentre opened. But there was also a 101 and 102 if I remember correctly. The 101/2 possibly 103 and 104 also got changed to at least the 54 and were operated by Blue Bus/Armstrong Galley and operated to the outskirts of Heddon on the Wall etc. So the 100 was part of the original batch of Metrocentee 1xx services

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the minibuses were replaced by scanias in 1989, ive enclosed timetable for service 100 which also shows the other busways services which served metrocentre at the time.


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(05 Nov 2017, 9:28 am)cbma06 Wrote: the minibuses were replaced by scanias in 1989, ive enclosed timetable for service 100 which also shows the other busways services which served metrocentre at the time.

Thanks, cbma06. I can't find the enclosed timetable?

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Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(05 Nov 2017, 12:18 pm)OrangeArrow49 Wrote: Thanks, cbma06. I can't find the enclosed timetable?


I noticed, tried several times to upload the timetable and the circle just keeps spinning round and around and around, I try again later on


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There's a good piece on the history, and numbering, of the 100 in Peter Nash's excellent book "Push Once".

It was deliberately designed to stand out as a 3-digit number against the standard Newcastle busways backdrop of 2-digit services.

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Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
Passed a white Enviro300 (looked like the MANviro variety - presumably one of the ones which recently migrated north from Stockton) on the A1 around 15:20, not in service.

It was in an advertising livery of some kind - and I'm sure I saw "#benice" or "#behappy" (words to that effect), with yellow smiley faces on it.

Any ideas?

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(07 Nov 2017, 5:05 pm)Dan Wrote: Passed a white Enviro300 (looked like the MANviro variety - presumably one of the ones which recently migrated north from Stockton) on the A1 around 15:20, not in service.

It was in an advertising livery of some kind - and I'm sure I saw "#benice" or "#behappy" (words to that effect), with yellow smiley faces on it.

Any ideas?

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MAN/Enivro 24136. It's in use as an Exhibition/Information vehicle which will tour UK Bus operating areas. It is nominally part of the Stagecoach Merseyside & South Lancashire fleet. The livery as you say features yellow 'emoji' smiley faces and the hashtag #BeNiceBus

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(07 Nov 2017, 5:23 pm)peter Wrote: MAN/Enivro 24136. It's in use as an Exhibition/Information vehicle which will tour UK Bus operating areas. It is nominally part of the Stagecoach Merseyside & South Lancashire fleet. The livery as you say features yellow 'emoji' smiley faces and the hashtag #BeNiceBus

Thanks, Peter! Not strictly North East related, then. Had never seen that one before!

I wasn't able to catch the fleet number of it, because it seemingly doesn't have one! Have just looked on Flickr and can't spot one on the front, side nor rear...

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(07 Nov 2017, 5:23 pm)peter Wrote: MAN/Enivro 24136. It's in use as an Exhibition/Information vehicle which will tour UK Bus operating areas. It is nominally part of the Stagecoach Merseyside & South Lancashire fleet. The livery as you say features yellow 'emoji' smiley faces and the hashtag #BeNiceBus

It's been done up inside with huge screens together with an on-board generator too. On loan to UK Bus from Merseyside.


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Why did Stagecoach X87/X88 move from Haymarket to Eldon Square? Did the X77, X78, X79 and X82 exist back then? I know the X47 is a new service. Busways/Stagecoach X87/X88 used to be in the Bus Concourse, then moved to Haymarket in around 1998, then moved to Eldon Square in around 2010/11 I think after Eldon Square Bus Station opened in 2007. Stagecoach no longer serves Haymarket Bus Station (as has been said on here before) and the Haymarket bus station is mostly Arriva with the only Go North East services being the Q3, 309/310/X39. Historically, Busways didn't serve Haymarket and I believe only used the Concourse, likewise Northern used Worswick Street Bus Station. Haymarket was Northumbrian Coaches.

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(10 Nov 2017, 11:36 am)OrangeArrow49 Wrote: Why did Stagecoach X87/X88 move from Haymarket to Eldon Square? Did the X77, X78, X79 and X82 exist back then? I know the X47 is a new service. Busways/Stagecoach X87/X88 used to be in the Bus Concourse, then moved to Haymarket in around 1998, then moved to Eldon Square in around 2010/11 I think after Eldon Square Bus Station opened in 2007. Stagecoach no longer serves Haymarket Bus Station (as has been said on here before) and the  Haymarket bus station is mostly Arriva with the only Go North East services  being the  Q3, 309/310/X39.  Historically, Busways didn't serve Haymarket and I believe only used the Concourse, likewise Northern used Worswick Street Bus Station. Haymarket was Northumbrian Coaches.

you need to raise these questions in the Bygone Area of the site.

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(10 Nov 2017, 11:48 am)ifm001 Wrote: you need to raise these questions in the Bygone Area of the site.

X47 launched in 2006,all the other ex's youve stated have been around for years,the X34 once upon a time used to serve Haymarket,thats all the info i can provide,but as said,these questions you have need addressing in the bygone era
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(10 Nov 2017, 11:36 am)OrangeArrow49 Wrote: Why did Stagecoach X87/X88 move from Haymarket to Eldon Square? Did the X77, X78, X79 and X82 exist back then? I know the X47 is a new service. Busways/Stagecoach X87/X88 used to be in the Bus Concourse, then moved to Haymarket in around 1998, then moved to Eldon Square in around 2010/11 I think after Eldon Square Bus Station opened in 2007. Stagecoach no longer serves Haymarket Bus Station (as has been said on here before) and the  Haymarket bus station is mostly Arriva with the only Go North East services  being the  Q3, 309/310/X39.  Historically, Busways didn't serve Haymarket and I believe only used the Concourse, likewise Northern used Worswick Street Bus Station. Haymarket was Northumbrian Coaches.

Northumbria Motor Services not Northumbrian Coaches.

When I first remember it the 87/88 was joint United/PTE and didn't go to any bus stations.

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(10 Nov 2017, 11:36 am)OrangeArrow49 Wrote: Why did Stagecoach X87/X88 move from Haymarket to Eldon Square? Did the X77, X78, X79 and X82 exist back then? I know the X47 is a new service. Busways/Stagecoach X87/X88 used to be in the Bus Concourse, then moved to Haymarket in around 1998, then moved to Eldon Square in around 2010/11 I think after Eldon Square Bus Station opened in 2007. Stagecoach no longer serves Haymarket Bus Station (as has been said on here before) and the  Haymarket bus station is mostly Arriva with the only Go North East services  being the  Q3, 309/310/X39.  Historically, Busways didn't serve Haymarket and I believe only used the Concourse, likewise Northern used Worswick Street Bus Station. Haymarket was Northumbrian Coaches.

Didn't Busways/Stagecoach use the old Eldon Square bus station for the expresses? 

Possibly St Thomas St at one point.
I can vaguely remember getting off 'via Cowgate' Express in the early 90's there.

There is an old map of Eldon Square kicking around the forum somewhere. There may be some clues there.
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The X87/88 were moved from Haymarket to Eldon Square for a few reasons. Obviously, it meant that it went from the same bus station as the X77/78/79. I believe congestion in Haymarket bus station was also a factor. Of course, now all the Ponteland Road expresses now serve the bus station which makes more sense.

The X47 was originally introduced with the support of a government grant. It replaced a far less frequent 47 if I remember correctly.

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(10 Nov 2017, 5:08 pm)Cock Robin Wrote: Northumbria Motor Services not Northumbrian Coaches.

When I first remember it the 87/88 was joint United/PTE and didn't go to any bus stations.


Yes, Northumbria Motor Services. No idea why I said Northumbrian Coaches! They were very present in Haymarket bus station, as is now the case with Arriva.

I think only the 87/88 not X87/X88 was United/PTE. I am sure the expresses were always Busways, I could be wrong though.

(10 Nov 2017, 2:04 pm)V514DFT Wrote: X47 launched in 2006,all the other ex's youve stated have been around for years,the X34 once upon a time used to serve Haymarket,thats all the info i can provide,but as said,these questions you have need addressing in the bygone era


Thanks for the info. I didn't know the X47 launched in 2006, or the X34 served Haymarket. Thanks, I will have a look at the bygone era area of the site.

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(10 Nov 2017, 6:08 pm)markydh Wrote: The X87/88 were moved from Haymarket to Eldon Square for a few reasons. Obviously, it meant that it went from the same bus station as the X77/78/79. I believe congestion in Haymarket bus station was also a factor. Of course, now all the Ponteland Road expresses now serve the bus station which makes more sense.

The X47 was originally introduced with the support of a government grant. It replaced a far less frequent 47 if I remember correctly.


Yes, that makes sense. I didn't know there was an X77/X78/X79 as I only used the X87/X88 from Haymarket. I don't remember getting any notice of the move. I just ended up at Eldon Square instead of Haymarket in around 2010 or so. I would if anyone has an old timetable from the Haymarket days of the X87/X88. The numbering makes little sense: X34, X47, X77, X78, X79, X82, X87, X88.  Off topic slightly, it seems off GNE hasn't moved the Cobalt services to Eldon Square, they look silly in the Arriva bus station. Also, Quaylink should all be in Eldon Sqaure. X34 should join all the other expressed in Eldon Square too! Perhaps sharing the X82 stand if possible.

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(11 Nov 2017, 11:11 pm)OrangeArrow49 Wrote: Yes, that makes sense. I didn't know there was an X77/X78/X79 as I only used the X87/X88 from Haymarket. I don't remember getting any notice of the move. I just ended up at Eldon Square instead of Haymarket in around 2010 or so. I would if anyone has an old timetable from the Haymarket days of the X87/X88. The numbering makes little sense: X34, X47, X77, X78, X79, X82, X87, X88.  Off topic slightly, it seems off GNE hasn't moved the Cobalt services to Eldon Square, they look silly in the Arriva bus station. Also, Quaylink should all be in Eldon Sqaure. X34 should join all the other expressed in Eldon Square too! Perhaps sharing the X82 stand if possible.

The service numbers hark back to the Busways, and in many cases PTE, days.  E.g.

X34 replaced much of the old South Shields number 34, extended through to Newcastle.

X47 replaced the old 47 which was introduced in the early 90s (and variously also included the 46/48/86 between Kingston Park and Newcastle).

X77/X78/X79 replaced the old Ponteland group – where we used to have (at various times) 75/75A/76/76A/76E/M76/X76/77/77A/77E/78/78E/79/79A.

The X82 is the last surviving part of the old 82/X82/83 group, where the 83 served Heddon on the Wall rather than Throckley.

The X87 & X88 have carried those numbers for decades – previously linked with the 87 &  88 which had the same destination but a slower route (in theory).

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Well since thes a lot of static blinds going in the go North East's feed hears some stagecoach services that could use static blinds 

South Shields 
3 Biddick Hall
Via Chichester & Stanhope Road
3 Market 
Via Harton Nook & Westoe
4 Biddick Hall
Via Westoe & Harton Nook
4 Market 
Via Stanhope Road & Chichester 
7 Marsden 
Via Chichester & Harton Nook 
7 Market 
Via Horsley Hill & Westoe
8 Marsden 
Via Westoe & Horsley Hill 
8 Market 
Via Harton Nook and Chichester 
X34 Newcastle Pilgrim St
Via Whiteleas, Bolden & Gateshead 
X34 Horsley Hill Square 
Via Gateshead, Bolden & Whiteleas 
Sunderland 
X24 Newcastle Pilgrim St 
Via Chester Road & Gateshead 
X24 Sunderland Fawcett Street
Via Gateshead & Chester Road 
X24A Newcastle Pilgrim St 
Via Chester Road, Doxford International switches to & Gateshead 
X24A Sunderland Fawcett St
Via Gateshead, Doxford International switches to & Chester Road