Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018
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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(10 Apr 2018, 6:05 pm)Cock Robin Wrote: Angry

Surely that's a good thing? Making our public transport more accessible for the visually-impaired, boosting their confidence so they use public transport more often?

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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(10 Apr 2018, 6:19 pm)Dan Wrote: Surely that's a good thing? Making our public transport more accessible for the visually-impaired, boosting their confidence so they use public transport more often?

So in the near future while on the X34 I'll hear this "The Next Stop is Gateshead High Street where we will arrive in approximately 15 minutes

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Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018
(10 Apr 2018, 6:42 pm)Ds1197 Wrote: So in the near future while on the X34 I'll hear this "The Next Stop is Gateshead High Street where we will arrive in approximately 15 minutes


Hopefully yes , it should give the oap’s time to gather there things together before arriving, also other passengers gather things together


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#24
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(10 Apr 2018, 6:19 pm)Dan Wrote: Surely that's a good thing? Making our public transport more accessible for the visually-impaired, boosting their confidence so they use public transport more often?
Indeed. It never ceases to amaze me how utterly ignorant some people can be when it comes to accessibility needs. Same folk who hated low floor buses when they were first introduced.

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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018
On the subject of next stop announcements, I think for the visually impaired and those who are not sure where they are going, they can be very useful. However, they are not always on and sometimes they are behind.

Stagecoach previously saying passengers have mixed feelings about them as Cock Robin told me in this same thread, makes sense. Bus operators are serving ALL passengers, not SOME passengers who benefit from the announcements. I can see how they can be annoying when you don't need them. My opinion is as not all bus services have them within the same operator, they are unfair and pointless anyway. Stagecoach doesn't have them so again that is unfair. Either ALL services have them - GNE, Arriva, Stagecoach, GCT, Stanley Travel, Phoenix etc or none do. I am in favour of NSAs, but only if people need them and use them.

Stop names are inconsistent and that also causes some confusion.

I think for public transport accessibility NSAs will be mandatory in the future. Some people won't like it but some people most probably don't like not having them now.

#26
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(10 Apr 2018, 7:15 pm)markydh Wrote: Indeed. It never ceases to amaze me how utterly ignorant some people can be when it comes to accessibility needs. Same folk who hated low floor buses when they were first introduced.
I personally find that after a while, next stop announcements tend to become background noise to those passengers who aren't specifically listening out for them, I've had to listen to them day in, day out on the Sapphire 7 for over 4 years now and I only really notice them when I make an effort to actually listen out for them.

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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(10 Apr 2018, 8:33 pm)Jimmi Wrote: I personally find that after a while, next stop announcements tend to become background noise to those passengers who aren't specifically listening out for them, I've had to listen to them day in, day out on the Sapphire 7 for over 4 years now and I only really notice them when I make an effort to actually listen out for them.

On my regular routes i tend to tune them out, but when I'm exploring somewhere new, it's very useful to have a confirmation that you're where you think you are.

Most public transport in Germany uses some kind of next stop info provision, so it's more of a surprise that so few vehicles in the UK do it!

#28
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018
Anyone have any idea when the Stagecoach training vehicle is around?

A training bus passed me earlier, around 12:50.

#29
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018
Information from "Steven Knight Media - Fleet News Ramblings":

Any reason why the below changes are taking place?

✤Stagecoach North East
MAN/East Lancs Kinetics 22514 & 22515 are in the process of being transferred from Slatyford to Stockton with MAN/ALX300s 22065 & 22066 moving from Stockton to Slatyford in exchange.
The swap of 22515 in exchange for 22065 took place this morning, and 22065 has already entered service at Slatyford depot.
The swap of 22514 in exchange for 22066 has yet to take place, with both vehicles in service at their normal depots this morning.
Other vehicle exchanges expected in the next few days are MAN/East Lancs Kinetics 22512 & 22513 moving from Slatyford to Walkergate with MAN/ALX300s 22341 & 22342 moving from Walkergate to Slatyford in exchange.

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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018
To spread out the cr*p so Slatyford don't have so much lost mileage! Don't know why they don't just get rid of them and put some of the spare E300s back on the road.

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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018
(13 Apr 2018, 4:37 pm)Cock Robin Wrote: To spread out the cr*p so Slatyford don't have so much lost mileage! Don't know why they don't just get rid of them and put some of the spare E300s back on the road.

Pretty much bang on there, the lot should of gone to Stockton in the first place to be fair. Much easier work. At least the two at Walkergate should be more reserve capasity, they'll allocate spare deckers before them heaps. Agree Robin, should of put ALXs back on the road if you ask me. Another year of no luck on the orders sadly.

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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018
(13 Apr 2018, 6:18 pm)RBZ 5459 Wrote: Pretty much bang on there, the lot should of gone to Stockton in the first place to be fair. Much easier work. At least the two at Walkergate should be more reserve capasity, they'll allocate spare deckers before them heaps. Agree Robin, should of put ALXs back on the road if you ask me. Another year of no luck on the orders sadly.

Another year of shite cascades then?
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#33
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018
(13 Apr 2018, 6:24 pm)Michael Wrote: Another year of shite cascades then?

Making do of what you've got, more likely.


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#34
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018
(13 Apr 2018, 4:27 pm)AIG20 Wrote: Information from "Steven Knight Media - Fleet News Ramblings":

Any reason why the below changes are taking place?

✤Stagecoach North East
MAN/East Lancs Kinetics 22514 & 22515 are in the process of being transferred from Slatyford to Stockton with MAN/ALX300s 22065 & 22066 moving from Stockton to Slatyford in exchange.
The swap of 22515 in exchange for 22065 took place this morning, and 22065 has already entered service at Slatyford depot.
The swap of 22514 in exchange for 22066 has yet to take place, with both vehicles in service at their normal depots this morning.
Other vehicle exchanges expected in the next few days are MAN/East Lancs Kinetics 22512 & 22513 moving from Slatyford to Walkergate with MAN/ALX300s 22341 & 22342 moving from Walkergate to Slatyford in exchange.


22511 now in service, too, remarkably!

[Image: 26561607357_ea6bdc291b.jpg]Stagecoach: 22511 SF56FKO MAN 18.240/East Lancs by emdjt42, on Flickr

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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018
(13 Apr 2018, 6:18 pm)RBZ 5459 Wrote: Another year of no luck on the orders sadly.

Starting to feel like 2000-2002 all over again.  Wonder if its repeating pattern now based on the gap created back then in terms of vehicles needing replacing in that timeframe.

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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018
I dont know how much longer they can rely on 2004 MANs to run the majority of Slatyford routes. We even seen this week the splitting up of 30s allocation of MMCs to spread them about been allocated on the X's all week.

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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018
(13 Apr 2018, 9:46 pm)LiamD55 Wrote: I dont know how much longer they can rely on 2004 MANs to run the majority of Slatyford routes. We even seen this week the splitting up of 30s allocation of MMCs to spread them about been allocated on the X's all week.

2004 MANs are still in service? I thought all Stagecoach North East buses were from 2006 onwards. The express services have quite a random allocation of everything really. The 30 is usually allocated Enviro 200 MMCs.

#38
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018
(13 Apr 2018, 9:59 pm)OrangeArrow49 Wrote: 2004 MANs are still in service? I thought all Stagecoach North East buses were from 2006 onwards. The express services have quite a random allocation of everything really. The 30 is usually allocated Enviro 200 MMCs.

22012/13/16/18/19/20/22/24/26/50/51/61-70/80/81/82, 22341-48 and 34605 all still in service from 2004 & 2005.

#39
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018
Strange how a division as big as busways struggles for investment against smaller depots in Scotland as an example. Seem to have a much shorter period before a batch of vehicles is renewed

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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018
(13 Apr 2018, 10:13 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Wrote: 22012/13/16/18/19/20/22/24/26/50/51/61-70/80/81/82, 22341-48 and 34605 all still in service from 2004 & 2005.

Thank you. That is a lot of 2004 and 2005 buses still in service.

22080 and 22082 are the ones with the green displays aren't they? The orange destinations are much clearer to read. I like all the Stagecoach buses, excluding the Kinetics. I like the Alexander Dennis E200s most though, which are usually allocated to service 6/7, 8 and 32/32A, but sometimes the X47 and X87/X88 have them allocated. I think services 71, 72 and 87 have the E200s actually. The Economic services are different similar ones I think, but E300s, which I also like.