Arriva North East: Planned Industrial Action
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(01/12/2018, 00:06)Andreos1 Wrote: It's a pittance. Really is. 
No wonder operators traditionally struggle to recruit and retain staff.

South division pay starts at £8.25 for new starters...
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(01/12/2018, 00:00)Driver9*** Wrote: Currently on £9.50 an hour, 3.5% rise takes that up to £9.83. Would you drive a bus being responsible for possibly 80+ peoples safety for that?

Although to be fair, new starters at Ashington/Blyth/Jesmond get £9.09 an hour for that..........

In a word, yes.

Though having said that its not right that train drivers get far more.
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(01/12/2018, 12:47)tyresmoke Wrote: South division pay starts at £8.25 for new starters...

£8.48 at Jesmond (£9.09 for 'Big Bus')
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Strike action confirmed at Arriva Durham County.

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/1...-hSZ9bQXXY
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(03/12/2018, 17:51)omnicity4659 Wrote: Strike action confirmed at Arriva Durham County.

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/1...-hSZ9bQXXY

God help passenger's if a strike occured on Saturday as Arriva Buses are already accepting tickets off Northern.
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(03/12/2018, 17:51)omnicity4659 Wrote: Strike action confirmed at Arriva Durham County.

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/1...-hSZ9bQXXY

According to that article. They are going on strike for the full week. Sunday through to Saturday. Is that right?
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(03/12/2018, 19:41)ifm001 Wrote: According to that article. They are going on strike for the full week. Sunday through to Saturday. Is that right?

That's what was being reported on the radio earlier.
Overheard drivers from 'a' depot chatting on Saturday and apparently notices were up in that depot at the weekend advising of action.
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(03/12/2018, 17:51)omnicity4659 Wrote: Strike action confirmed at Arriva Durham County.

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/1...-hSZ9bQXXY

Could drivers from the Northumbria depots (Jesmond, Blyth, Ashington) or Yorkshire be drafted in or could they refuse to help if asked?
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#9
Doubt this would happen but Jesmond could run the X12 to Durham with either Belmont or Stockton carrying on through to Middlesbrough. That could free up several drivers to operate other services. Also Managers with a PSV License could do some services if they are available. Additionaly Arriva could think of a decrease in frequency to enable more services to operate.
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(03/12/2018, 23:12)S830OFT Wrote: Doubt this would happen but Jesmond could run the X12 to Durham with either Belmont or Stockton carrying on through to Middlesbrough. That could free up several drivers to operate other services. Also Managers with a PSV License could do some services if they are available. Additionaly Arriva could think of a decrease in frequency to enable more services to operate.

GNE already have the 21/X21 covering most if not, the whole of the X12 route.
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(03/12/2018, 23:17)L469 YVK Wrote: GNE already have the 21/X21 covering most if not, the whole of the X12 route.

Yeah but will they be accepting Arriva's tickets and passes?
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(03/12/2018, 23:19)S830OFT Wrote: Yeah but will they be accepting Arriva's tickets and passes?
Obviously not...

I would hope that Arriva would cover the routes which have no competition with other operators first before considering a route like the X12 between Durham and Newcastle?!

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#13
As the article suggests only a 'token' of services will operate here is my suggestion:
Durham, Belmont:
6: Every 30 minutes, both buses per hour will operate Durham to Cockfield.
7: Every 30 Minutes.
22: Every 60 Minutes, this service will operate via Easington Collirey.
23: Not Operating, Covered by 22/24.
24: Every 60 Minutes.
43: Every 60 Minutes.
X46: Every 60 Minutes.
48: Every 60 Minutes.
49: Every 60 Minutes.
56/86: Every 60 Minutes.
57: Not Operating.
57A: Every 60 Minutes.
61/62: Normal Service.
64: Every 30 Minutes.
X12: Every 60 Minutes.

Darlington:
1: Every 60 Minutes.
2: Every 30 Minutes.
3: Every 60 Minutes (Town to Skrene Park only).
4: Every 60 Minutes.
5: Every 60 Minutes.
5A: Not Operating.
8: Not Operating.
9/10: Every 30 Minutes.
12: Every 60 Minutes.
13A: Every 20 Minutes (Will Interwork With 3/4.
19: Not Operating.
X21: Every 2 Hours.
X26: Every 60 Minutes.
X66: Every 60 Minutes.
X67: Every 60 Minutes.

Stockton:
5: Every 30 Minutes.
5A: Not Operating.
7A: Every 60 Minutes.
8/9: Every 30 Minutes.
15: Every 20 Minutes.
17: Every 60 Minutes.
17A: Not Operating.
28/29: Combined to operate Every 30 minutes.
X22: Every 2 Hours (Will turn into X21 to Sunderland at Peterlee).

Redcar:
X3: Every 60 Minutes.
X3A: Not Operating.
X4: Every 60 Minutes.
62: Every 60 Minutes.
63: Every 20 Minutes.
64: Every 60 Minutes.
64A: Not Operating.
81: Every 2 Hours.

Whitby: 
X93: Split Route, Service will operate very infrequently.
95: Only Journeys to Grosmont will operate.

THIS IS JUST MY SUGGESTION, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY RESOURCES ARRIVA HAVE, THIS IS JUST MY SUGGESTION TO WHAT COULD POSSIBLY OPERATE.
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#14
(03/12/2018, 18:10)S830OFT Wrote: God help passenger's if a strike occured on Saturday as Arriva Buses are already accepting tickets off Northern.

That is the whole point of a strike. Maximum impact. They're hardly going to do it on a Sunday morning only, as to not inconvenience anybody!

Remember that it takes two to tango. I am only surprised it had taken this long for the Union to call out shocking levels of pay... what South division drivers start at will be less than minimum wage for 25+ (expected to rise to £9.00), within the next 18 months.

(03/12/2018, 22:58)L469 YVK Wrote: Could drivers from the Northumbria depots (Jesmond, Blyth, Ashington) or Yorkshire be drafted in or could they refuse to help if asked?

Depends what their contract states with regards to place of work. Yorkshire I'd suggest would have to be volunteers, based on the geography, but you'd have to be pretty low to voluntarily cover a colleague out on strike...  Undecided
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#15
There have been drivers sent from Northumbria and Yorkshire to Durham County in the past, same goes for Northumbria/Durham County to Yorkshire (and even London and Malta a few years back), so it isn't out of the question.
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(04/12/2018, 05:50)omnicity4659 Wrote: There have been drivers sent from Northumbria and Yorkshire to Durham County in the past, same goes for Northumbria/Durham County to Yorkshire (and even London and Malta a few years back), so it isn't out of the question.

Was that to cover driver shortages though, or strike breaking?

Nowt like a bit of solidarity!
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#17
Surprised it has taken this long for Durham County to organise strike action. Arriva paying Northumbria region drivers more from the start is unnacceptable. Bus drivers seem reasonably underpaid across the board to be honest, especially when compared to train drivers - I'd argue bus drivers have even more responsibility, yet are paid substantially less.
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#18
Given the potential strike action for Arriva Durham County, if the Northumbria Depots (Jesmond, Blyth and Ashington) were to ever go on strike in the future, would GNE have contingency plans in place at Riverside and Percy Main for any routes that serve shared corridors with Arriva (Q3, 57, 19, 42/42A , 309, 310)
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(04/12/2018, 22:22)L469 YVK Wrote: Given the potential strike action for Arriva Durham County, if the Northumbria Depots (Jesmond, Blyth and Ashington) were to ever go on strike in the future, would GNE have contingency plans in place at Riverside and Percy Main for any routes that serve shared corridors with Arriva (Q3, 57, 19, 42/42A , 309, 310)

They would have the potential to make the most of the opportunity, such as allocating deckers or dupes on those shared corridors.
Im sure there could be many commercial opportunities too, should they wish to try and obtain custom on a longer term basis. 
There's also the metro to think about North out of Newcastle and East towards the coast. 
Not sure GNE would have it their own way entirely mind.
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(04/12/2018, 22:22)L469 YVK Wrote: Given the potential strike action for Arriva Durham County, if the Northumbria Depots (Jesmond, Blyth and Ashington) were to ever go on strike in the future, would GNE have contingency plans in place at Riverside and Percy Main for any routes that serve shared corridors with Arriva (Q3, 57, 19, 42/42A , 309, 310)

However theoretical the question, I've moved it to the ANE thread, as I feel it is better placed here than in the GNE thread.

I think you'd see bigger buses (deckers) where possible or available, but beyond that, I don't think they'd have the capacity.
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