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01 May 2019, 6:23 am #1
Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019
Dan
01 May 2019, 6:23 am #1

Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019

02 May 2019, 1:26 pm #2
On the off chance that Arriva does get acquired, hopefully there'll be more investment (or should I say actually some investment) in the Durham services. Arriva's fleet is quite frankly an embarrassment compared to GNE's especially at Durham Bus Station.
Sure, they've refurbished the buses with fancy leather, but they're still getting on and you can tell
streetdeckfan
02 May 2019, 1:26 pm #2

On the off chance that Arriva does get acquired, hopefully there'll be more investment (or should I say actually some investment) in the Durham services. Arriva's fleet is quite frankly an embarrassment compared to GNE's especially at Durham Bus Station.
Sure, they've refurbished the buses with fancy leather, but they're still getting on and you can tell

Cock Robin



2,778
02 May 2019, 5:43 pm #3
Didnt realise Redcar already using three buses on X93s. Didnt start til mid summer last year?
Cock Robin
02 May 2019, 5:43 pm #3

Didnt realise Redcar already using three buses on X93s. Didnt start til mid summer last year?

JM03



505
02 May 2019, 5:55 pm #4
ANE and Stagecoach sharing the next set of 900/1
JM03
02 May 2019, 5:55 pm #4

ANE and Stagecoach sharing the next set of 900/1

02 May 2019, 11:46 pm #5
(02 May 2019, 5:55 pm)JM03 ANE and Stagecoach sharing the next set of 900/1

as are GNE and ive also heard JH coaches and Stanley Travel
Jordan2104
02 May 2019, 11:46 pm #5

(02 May 2019, 5:55 pm)JM03 ANE and Stagecoach sharing the next set of 900/1

as are GNE and ive also heard JH coaches and Stanley Travel

03 May 2019, 9:53 am #6
(02 May 2019, 1:26 pm)streetdeckfan On the off chance that Arriva does get acquired, hopefully there'll be more investment (or should I say actually some investment) in the Durham services. Arriva's fleet is quite frankly an embarrassment compared to GNE's especially at Durham Bus Station.
Sure, they've refurbished the buses with fancy leather, but they're still getting on and you can tell

If the new owners don't want to suck millions of pounds from each division, I'm sure that there will be investment. Fleet presentation is a priority believe it or not, it's just that there's a very small budget for it thanks to DB...
omnicity4659
03 May 2019, 9:53 am #6

(02 May 2019, 1:26 pm)streetdeckfan On the off chance that Arriva does get acquired, hopefully there'll be more investment (or should I say actually some investment) in the Durham services. Arriva's fleet is quite frankly an embarrassment compared to GNE's especially at Durham Bus Station.
Sure, they've refurbished the buses with fancy leather, but they're still getting on and you can tell

If the new owners don't want to suck millions of pounds from each division, I'm sure that there will be investment. Fleet presentation is a priority believe it or not, it's just that there's a very small budget for it thanks to DB...

03 May 2019, 12:43 pm #7
(03 May 2019, 9:53 am)omnicity4659 If the new owners don't want to suck millions of pounds from each division, I'm sure that there will be investment. Fleet presentation is a priority believe it or not, it's just that there's a very small budget for it thanks to DB...

The worst part is that DB is fully owned by the German government, so it's probably purely political that they've been taking Arriva for pretty much everything it's worth!
That also means they have basically infinite money, so it's not as if there is a real reason for the small budget (other than the division not making enough money).
streetdeckfan
03 May 2019, 12:43 pm #7

(03 May 2019, 9:53 am)omnicity4659 If the new owners don't want to suck millions of pounds from each division, I'm sure that there will be investment. Fleet presentation is a priority believe it or not, it's just that there's a very small budget for it thanks to DB...

The worst part is that DB is fully owned by the German government, so it's probably purely political that they've been taking Arriva for pretty much everything it's worth!
That also means they have basically infinite money, so it's not as if there is a real reason for the small budget (other than the division not making enough money).

03 May 2019, 12:57 pm #8
2837  at heworth presumably for route learning
Coppercap40
03 May 2019, 12:57 pm #8

2837  at heworth presumably for route learning

9920up



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03 May 2019, 4:13 pm #9
(03 May 2019, 9:53 am)omnicity4659 If the new owners don't want to suck millions of pounds from each division, I'm sure that there will be investment. Fleet presentation is a priority believe it or not, it's just that there's a very small budget for it thanks to DB...

Today is the last day for bids for Arriva from interested parties. In the registration documents,  DB have said Arriva may be sold as a whole or split. Stagecoach are still tipped as leaders for acquiring the bus division either in whole or in part.
9920up
03 May 2019, 4:13 pm #9

(03 May 2019, 9:53 am)omnicity4659 If the new owners don't want to suck millions of pounds from each division, I'm sure that there will be investment. Fleet presentation is a priority believe it or not, it's just that there's a very small budget for it thanks to DB...

Today is the last day for bids for Arriva from interested parties. In the registration documents,  DB have said Arriva may be sold as a whole or split. Stagecoach are still tipped as leaders for acquiring the bus division either in whole or in part.

BusLoverMum



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03 May 2019, 11:21 pm #10
(03 May 2019, 12:43 pm)streetdeckfan The worst part is that DB is fully owned by the German government, so it's probably purely political that they've been taking Arriva for pretty much everything it's worth!
That also means they have basically infinite money, so it's not as if there is a real reason for the small budget (other than the division not making enough money).

They no more have infinite money than your nearest school does.
BusLoverMum
03 May 2019, 11:21 pm #10

(03 May 2019, 12:43 pm)streetdeckfan The worst part is that DB is fully owned by the German government, so it's probably purely political that they've been taking Arriva for pretty much everything it's worth!
That also means they have basically infinite money, so it's not as if there is a real reason for the small budget (other than the division not making enough money).

They no more have infinite money than your nearest school does.

04 May 2019, 10:19 am #11
3 Pulsars parked outside Hartlepool Train Station. Any ideas?
TyneWearTeesGNE
04 May 2019, 10:19 am #11

3 Pulsars parked outside Hartlepool Train Station. Any ideas?

Kuyoyo



6,844
04 May 2019, 10:27 am #12
(04 May 2019, 10:19 am)TyneWearTeesGNE 3 Pulsars parked outside Hartlepool Train Station. Any ideas?

Rail replacements between Middlesbrough and Hartlepool.
Kuyoyo
04 May 2019, 10:27 am #12

(04 May 2019, 10:19 am)TyneWearTeesGNE 3 Pulsars parked outside Hartlepool Train Station. Any ideas?

Rail replacements between Middlesbrough and Hartlepool.

L469 YVK



3,539
04 May 2019, 10:32 am #13
(03 May 2019, 4:13 pm)9920up Today is the last day for bids for Arriva from interested parties. In the registration documents,  DB have said Arriva may be sold as a whole or split. Stagecoach are still tipped as leaders for acquiring the bus division either in whole or in part.

If Arriva were to sell Blyth to Stagecoach with Ashington & Jesmond going to GNE, would GNE & Stagecoach be able to come to a mutual decision on what parts of the fleet they take? 

I'd imagine Stagecoach would want to take Arriva's ADL fleet whereas GNE would rather take the Wrightbus fleet.
L469 YVK
04 May 2019, 10:32 am #13

(03 May 2019, 4:13 pm)9920up Today is the last day for bids for Arriva from interested parties. In the registration documents,  DB have said Arriva may be sold as a whole or split. Stagecoach are still tipped as leaders for acquiring the bus division either in whole or in part.

If Arriva were to sell Blyth to Stagecoach with Ashington & Jesmond going to GNE, would GNE & Stagecoach be able to come to a mutual decision on what parts of the fleet they take? 

I'd imagine Stagecoach would want to take Arriva's ADL fleet whereas GNE would rather take the Wrightbus fleet.

Michael



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04 May 2019, 10:53 am #14
(04 May 2019, 10:32 am)L469 YVK If Arriva were to sell Blyth to Stagecoach with Ashington & Jesmond going to GNE, would GNE & Stagecoach be able to come to a mutual decision on what parts of the fleet they take? 

I'd imagine Stagecoach would want to take Arriva's ADL fleet whereas GNE would rather take the Wrightbus fleet.

I would imagine, they'll get what buses are at the depots they'll take over?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
04 May 2019, 10:53 am #14

(04 May 2019, 10:32 am)L469 YVK If Arriva were to sell Blyth to Stagecoach with Ashington & Jesmond going to GNE, would GNE & Stagecoach be able to come to a mutual decision on what parts of the fleet they take? 

I'd imagine Stagecoach would want to take Arriva's ADL fleet whereas GNE would rather take the Wrightbus fleet.

I would imagine, they'll get what buses are at the depots they'll take over?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

L469 YVK



3,539
04 May 2019, 11:28 am #15
(04 May 2019, 10:53 am)Michael I would imagine, they'll get what buses are at the depots they'll take over?

I suppose. But I'd imagine the 14/64 reg Classic E400s would be ideal for the X24 & X34 after a refurb for Stagecoach. And I'd also imagine the ex Yorkshire Gemimis coming in handy for GNE to allow most 6/X30/X31 boards to run with deckers (don't know if Hownsgill / Riverside mix the boards up at certain times of day).
L469 YVK
04 May 2019, 11:28 am #15

(04 May 2019, 10:53 am)Michael I would imagine, they'll get what buses are at the depots they'll take over?

I suppose. But I'd imagine the 14/64 reg Classic E400s would be ideal for the X24 & X34 after a refurb for Stagecoach. And I'd also imagine the ex Yorkshire Gemimis coming in handy for GNE to allow most 6/X30/X31 boards to run with deckers (don't know if Hownsgill / Riverside mix the boards up at certain times of day).

Andreos1



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04 May 2019, 11:49 am #16
(04 May 2019, 10:32 am)L469 YVK If Arriva were to sell Blyth to Stagecoach with Ashington & Jesmond going to GNE, would GNE & Stagecoach be able to come to a mutual decision on what parts of the fleet they take? 

I'd imagine Stagecoach would want to take Arriva's ADL fleet whereas GNE would rather take the Wrightbus fleet.

Imagine if they got other areas and had to come up with some 'zones'.

'aye mate. Can I have a pink and yellow polka dot and tiger stripe two zone ticket for the week please?. Yeah, paying on my card'

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
04 May 2019, 11:49 am #16

(04 May 2019, 10:32 am)L469 YVK If Arriva were to sell Blyth to Stagecoach with Ashington & Jesmond going to GNE, would GNE & Stagecoach be able to come to a mutual decision on what parts of the fleet they take? 

I'd imagine Stagecoach would want to take Arriva's ADL fleet whereas GNE would rather take the Wrightbus fleet.

Imagine if they got other areas and had to come up with some 'zones'.

'aye mate. Can I have a pink and yellow polka dot and tiger stripe two zone ticket for the week please?. Yeah, paying on my card'


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Ds1197



506
04 May 2019, 12:25 pm #17
(04 May 2019, 11:28 am)L469 YVK I suppose. But I'd imagine the 14/64 reg Classic E400s would be ideal for the X24 & X34 after a refurb for Stagecoach. And I'd also imagine the ex Yorkshire Gemimis coming in handy for GNE to allow most 6/X30/X31 boards to run with deckers (don't know if Hownsgill / Riverside mix the boards up at certain times of day).

X30 got a low bridge on its route
Ds1197
04 May 2019, 12:25 pm #17

(04 May 2019, 11:28 am)L469 YVK I suppose. But I'd imagine the 14/64 reg Classic E400s would be ideal for the X24 & X34 after a refurb for Stagecoach. And I'd also imagine the ex Yorkshire Gemimis coming in handy for GNE to allow most 6/X30/X31 boards to run with deckers (don't know if Hownsgill / Riverside mix the boards up at certain times of day).

X30 got a low bridge on its route

04 May 2019, 12:40 pm #18
(04 May 2019, 11:49 am)Andreos1 Imagine if they got other areas and had to come up with some 'zones'.

'aye mate. Can I have a pink and yellow polka dot and tiger stripe two zone ticket for the week please?. Yeah, paying on my card'
It's fine, they'll design the zones so you're always one stop into a third zone like it has always been for me!
streetdeckfan
04 May 2019, 12:40 pm #18

(04 May 2019, 11:49 am)Andreos1 Imagine if they got other areas and had to come up with some 'zones'.

'aye mate. Can I have a pink and yellow polka dot and tiger stripe two zone ticket for the week please?. Yeah, paying on my card'
It's fine, they'll design the zones so you're always one stop into a third zone like it has always been for me!

Michael



19,130
04 May 2019, 12:47 pm #19
(04 May 2019, 12:40 pm)streetdeckfan It's fine, they'll design the zones so you're always one stop into a third zone like it has always been for me!

Yup, still think they should remodel the zones, hopefully that happens if they take over any Arriva routes....

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
04 May 2019, 12:47 pm #19

(04 May 2019, 12:40 pm)streetdeckfan It's fine, they'll design the zones so you're always one stop into a third zone like it has always been for me!

Yup, still think they should remodel the zones, hopefully that happens if they take over any Arriva routes....


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Kuyoyo



6,844
04 May 2019, 1:05 pm #20
Let’s move back into reality now.....

Stockton currently have Jesmond’s 1479, 1480 and 1495 (and a fourth as well but not sure what) on loan for rails - the aforementioned trio are all out and about. Also on loan are 1509/10 from Belmont - they are currently spare in the depot due to them having Ticketer machines (Stockton, Redcar, Whitby and - reportedly - Jesmond move over tonight).
Kuyoyo
04 May 2019, 1:05 pm #20

Let’s move back into reality now.....

Stockton currently have Jesmond’s 1479, 1480 and 1495 (and a fourth as well but not sure what) on loan for rails - the aforementioned trio are all out and about. Also on loan are 1509/10 from Belmont - they are currently spare in the depot due to them having Ticketer machines (Stockton, Redcar, Whitby and - reportedly - Jesmond move over tonight).

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