Northern (Arriva Rail North)
RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
(03 Aug 2019, 12:43 pm)Andreos1 Wrote:

I'd had my suspicions for a few weeks, but having seen it a short while back - can confirm.

There's at least one 158 operating on the Saltburn line.


Next departure from Saltburn.

Didnt get id as saw it from afar, but it has some sort of vinyl wrap.


Edit: it's 158860

Certainly not unheard of on the Bishop - Saltburn line now, saw it myself heading to Bishop this morning but unable to ID, 156s are very common on there now

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(03 Aug 2019, 1:18 pm)Jimmi Wrote: Certainly not unheard of on the Bishop - Saltburn line now, saw it myself heading to Bishop this morning but unable to ID, 156s are very common on there now


Heard and seen plenty 156's recently - but first time I've positively id'd a 158 on the line.

A nice change to them Pacer's!


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
(03 Aug 2019, 1:31 pm)Andreos1 Wrote:


Heard and seen plenty 156's recently - but first time I've positively id'd a 158 on the line.

A nice change to them Pacer's!


142s are better than nowt... speaking of which, various services to/from Bishop Auckland have supposedly been cancelled today due to staff shortages, some services were cancelled on this line last Sunday for same reason, fear this is going to become a trend on weekends between Darlington and Bishop

The previously mentioned 158 was 158860

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

https://bdaily.co.uk/articles/2019/08/20...port-links


All go on Teesside with the rail network.


New 'Parkway' station proposed.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/traf...ool-634155


Reports that Northern Connect won't be using ECML.

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RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Clocked a 321 or a 322 sitting at Heaton the other day, are these transferring to here and if so, why?

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(21 Sep 2019, 11:01 pm)JM03 Wrote: Clocked a 321 or a 322 sitting at Heaton the other day, are these transferring to here and if so, why?


They're at Heaton for warm storage because there isn't enough room at Neville Hill, so essentially withdrawn following the arrival of the new 331s in the Leeds area, but can be used in emergency or during the leaf fall timetable


RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
With the changes coming in next Sunday, all pacers will leave the NE and be swapped for 153 units transferred in only to be used in emergency situations

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
(09 Dec 2019, 10:27 am)JM03 Wrote: With the changes coming in next Sunday, all pacers will leave the NE and be swapped for 153 units transferred in only to be used in emergency situations
How true is this though surely there be extra 156 and 158s floating around Heaton to cover, honestly don't see how well a class 153 will cope in the north east routes. Plus our drivers would have to be trained again on them

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
(09 Dec 2019, 10:40 pm)Ryland Wrote: How true is this though surely there be extra 156 and 158s floating around Heaton to cover, honestly don't see how well a class 153 will cope in the north east routes. Plus our drivers would have to be trained again on them

Double 'em up? 
Not a big fan of them personally, but the more stock the better imo.
Can't help thinking the 158's are wasted on the stop/start nature of the local routes and stop/start is certainly not what they were designed for.

Maybe the powers that be are anticipating future problems and feel the 153's are a decent option?
'Illegitimis non carborundum'

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
(09 Dec 2019, 10:27 am)JM03 Wrote: With the changes coming in next Sunday, all pacers will leave the NE

best news so far this week, about time!
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
(09 Dec 2019, 10:40 pm)Ryland Wrote: How true is this though surely there be extra 156 and 158s floating around Heaton to cover, honestly don't see how well a class 153 will cope in the north east routes. Plus our drivers would have to be trained again on them
Was told off Northern conductor on my train Sunday night, seems pretty legit, Id not be surprised to be hooked up with 156s and 158s when not being used, they're only going to be operated in single units when no other units are able to operate

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
6 of Newton Heath’s 156s will be allocated to Heaton for the new timetable change, with 2 coming up per day starting from tomorrow(?). They should be 156421, 156441, 156468, 156475, 156488, 156489.
Note that 421 and 441 are ones which have been refurbished in the new blue moquette.

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
(11 Dec 2019, 9:59 pm)EL1TE Wrote: 6 of Newton Heath’s 156s will be allocated to Heaton for the new timetable change, with 2 coming up per day starting from tomorrow(?). They should be 156421, 156441, 156468, 156475, 156488, 156489.
Note that 421 and 441 are ones which have been refurbished in the new blue moquette.
Will that be applied on any other Heaton 156? Ive only seen it on 156451

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
(12 Dec 2019, 1:50 pm)JM03 Wrote: Will that be applied on any other Heaton 156? Ive only seen it on 156451
Not so sure if any more have been done, sorry. I know that 156451 also has USB’s but not sure on WiFi. I’m sure more will start to get done soon though.

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
(12 Dec 2019, 6:24 pm)EL1TE Wrote: Not so sure if any more have been done, sorry. I know that 156451 also has USB’s but not sure on WiFi. I’m sure more will start to get done soon though.
It had the wifi Im sure too, personally really like it

Northern (Arriva Rail North)
WiFi & USBs on Northern?! Don't make me laugh... virtually every 150 & 158 refurb I've had has not had WiFi or USBs despite their social media claiming otherwise, the only 150 I've had with WiFi only had it as somebody forgot to remove it when it transferred up from Great Western Railway

EDIT: can confirm 156451 has WiFi & USBs plus seat re-trim

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
The 142s are still putting in appearances on lines in the North East with Northern... one that certainly won't with Northern now is 142001 which departed today and currently resides at Shildon Locomotion Museum (snapped in Aycliffe bound for Shildon).
[Image: 49239550131_20a0488f7d.jpg]142001 by Matthew Jimmison, on Flickr

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Hearing Northern have been stripped of their franchise.
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RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
(02 Jan 2020, 11:09 am)Andreos1 Wrote: Hearing Northern have been stripped of their franchise.

If they have been, I'm surprised it's taken them this long to do it.
Although, I can't help but think what affect this is going to have on the sale of Arriva. If anything, not having that franchise may make Arriva more appealing to any prospective buyers!

I personally rarely use Northern much these days, the extend of my usage is between Bishop and Darlington these days and it's actually pretty rare that it's late (at least when I use it)