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Stagecoach E400 Fire A1 near West Denton 12/6

Stagecoach E400 Fire A1 near West Denton 12/6

 
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12 Jun 2020, 9:22 am #1
A stagecoach ADL E400 caught fire this morning on the A1.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...s-18405564
NewcastleOne
12 Jun 2020, 9:22 am #1

A stagecoach ADL E400 caught fire this morning on the A1.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...s-18405564

12 Jun 2020, 10:49 am #2
(12 Jun 2020, 9:22 am)NewcastleOne A stagecoach ADL E400 caught fire this morning on the A1.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...s-18405564

Looks like it was 19439
Dans_bus_photos
12 Jun 2020, 10:49 am #2

(12 Jun 2020, 9:22 am)NewcastleOne A stagecoach ADL E400 caught fire this morning on the A1.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...s-18405564

Looks like it was 19439

tyresmoke



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12 Jun 2020, 11:12 am #3
It was indeed Walkergate's 19439

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tyresmoke
12 Jun 2020, 11:12 am #3

It was indeed Walkergate's 19439


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12 Jun 2020, 3:22 pm #4
(12 Jun 2020, 11:12 am)tyresmoke It was indeed Walkergate's 19439

It looks like a write off. Due to its age I doubt it will be repaired.

I wonder what will replace it?
AIG20
12 Jun 2020, 3:22 pm #4

(12 Jun 2020, 11:12 am)tyresmoke It was indeed Walkergate's 19439

It looks like a write off. Due to its age I doubt it will be repaired.

I wonder what will replace it?

glen



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13 Jun 2020, 1:10 am #5
Sorry it later when are stagecoach North East starting to repaint buses in to New living.
glen
13 Jun 2020, 1:10 am #5

Sorry it later when are stagecoach North East starting to repaint buses in to New living.

13 Jun 2020, 11:42 am #6
(13 Jun 2020, 1:10 am)glen Sorry it later when are stagecoach North East starting to repaint buses in to New living.
They have been since the launch, if you mean since the relaxation of lockdown then I think they’re restarted with 19680 being repainted recently.
NewcastleOne
13 Jun 2020, 11:42 am #6

(13 Jun 2020, 1:10 am)glen Sorry it later when are stagecoach North East starting to repaint buses in to New living.
They have been since the launch, if you mean since the relaxation of lockdown then I think they’re restarted with 19680 being repainted recently.

glen



705
13 Jun 2020, 11:54 am #7
Thanks for info mate
glen
13 Jun 2020, 11:54 am #7

Thanks for info mate

16 Jun 2020, 8:06 pm #8
They’ll have a job repainting 19680 as it was done 3 month ago
topsweep1506
16 Jun 2020, 8:06 pm #8

They’ll have a job repainting 19680 as it was done 3 month ago

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20 Jun 2020, 8:56 pm #9
Does any one know when 19439 will be back in service soon!
Robin58
20 Jun 2020, 8:56 pm #9

Does any one know when 19439 will be back in service soon!

tyresmoke



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20 Jun 2020, 9:45 pm #10
(20 Jun 2020, 8:56 pm)Robin58 Does any one know when 19439 will be back in service soon!
It won't be back.

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tyresmoke
20 Jun 2020, 9:45 pm #10

(20 Jun 2020, 8:56 pm)Robin58 Does any one know when 19439 will be back in service soon!
It won't be back.


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21 Jun 2020, 9:44 am #11
Its a gonner

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Tez
V514DFT
21 Jun 2020, 9:44 am #11

Its a gonner


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Tez

04 Feb 2021, 10:25 pm #12
any more news on this vehicle?
toward6931
04 Feb 2021, 10:25 pm #12

any more news on this vehicle?

04 Feb 2021, 10:31 pm #13
Umm...
omnicity4659
04 Feb 2021, 10:31 pm #13

Umm...

04 Feb 2021, 10:36 pm #14
(04 Feb 2021, 10:31 pm)omnicity4659 Umm...

ive heard from a contact down at SC south that an ex north east vehicle that was deroofed in a bridge strike maybe repaired, its a 2007 model so i thought theres a chance that this one may be saved
toward6931
04 Feb 2021, 10:36 pm #14

(04 Feb 2021, 10:31 pm)omnicity4659 Umm...

ive heard from a contact down at SC south that an ex north east vehicle that was deroofed in a bridge strike maybe repaired, its a 2007 model so i thought theres a chance that this one may be saved

04 Feb 2021, 11:25 pm #15
(04 Feb 2021, 10:36 pm)toward6931 ive heard from a contact down at SC south that an ex north east vehicle that was deroofed in a bridge strike maybe repaired, its a 2007 model so i thought theres a chance that this one may be saved
Yes that was 19161 but the fire vehicle which this thread is for was 19439.
NewcastleOne
04 Feb 2021, 11:25 pm #15

(04 Feb 2021, 10:36 pm)toward6931 ive heard from a contact down at SC south that an ex north east vehicle that was deroofed in a bridge strike maybe repaired, its a 2007 model so i thought theres a chance that this one may be saved
Yes that was 19161 but the fire vehicle which this thread is for was 19439.

05 Feb 2021, 1:33 am #16
(04 Feb 2021, 11:25 pm)NewcastleOne Yes that was 19161 but the fire vehicle which this thread is for was 19439.

yes so if they are potentially repairing a 2007 vehicle which is 19161 , are the going to repair a 2008 bus which is 19439?
toward6931
05 Feb 2021, 1:33 am #16

(04 Feb 2021, 11:25 pm)NewcastleOne Yes that was 19161 but the fire vehicle which this thread is for was 19439.

yes so if they are potentially repairing a 2007 vehicle which is 19161 , are the going to repair a 2008 bus which is 19439?

05 Feb 2021, 8:25 am #17
(05 Feb 2021, 1:33 am)toward6931 yes so if they are potentially repairing a 2007 vehicle which is 19161 , are the going to repair a 2008 bus which is 19439?

But 19161 is being converted into an open top bus so won't cost anywhere near the price of rebuilding a bus thats been fire damaged. I think 19439 has already been scrapped anyway.
Dans_bus_photos
05 Feb 2021, 8:25 am #17

(05 Feb 2021, 1:33 am)toward6931 yes so if they are potentially repairing a 2007 vehicle which is 19161 , are the going to repair a 2008 bus which is 19439?

But 19161 is being converted into an open top bus so won't cost anywhere near the price of rebuilding a bus thats been fire damaged. I think 19439 has already been scrapped anyway.

05 Feb 2021, 10:20 am #18
19439 is listed under "Vehicles for Disposal", with a note that the reason is "Fire damage" in the most recent fleet allocation card which I have seen.

As the card is dated for November last year, it's quite possible that events have moved on and the vehicle disposed of - but it won't be coming back!

With regard to the suggestion that older vehicles have been repaired: Bodywork damage can be relatively easily sorted, sometimes by cannibalising parts of other vehicles; in many cases it can be largely cosmetic, although damage around the chassis may have an effect on the structural integrity of the vehicle which would make a significant difference to the outcome. A fire, on the other hand, will result in major damage to the parts of the bus that make it go, as well as to the lower portions of the body, which would be an altogether different approach to possible repair and far more likely resulting in disposal for scrap once re-usable parts have been stripped.
Ianthegoon
05 Feb 2021, 10:20 am #18

19439 is listed under "Vehicles for Disposal", with a note that the reason is "Fire damage" in the most recent fleet allocation card which I have seen.

As the card is dated for November last year, it's quite possible that events have moved on and the vehicle disposed of - but it won't be coming back!

With regard to the suggestion that older vehicles have been repaired: Bodywork damage can be relatively easily sorted, sometimes by cannibalising parts of other vehicles; in many cases it can be largely cosmetic, although damage around the chassis may have an effect on the structural integrity of the vehicle which would make a significant difference to the outcome. A fire, on the other hand, will result in major damage to the parts of the bus that make it go, as well as to the lower portions of the body, which would be an altogether different approach to possible repair and far more likely resulting in disposal for scrap once re-usable parts have been stripped.

05 Feb 2021, 2:54 pm #19
(05 Feb 2021, 8:25 am)Dans_bus_photos But 19161 is being converted into an open top bus so won't cost anywhere near the price of rebuilding a bus thats been fire damaged. I think 19439 has already been scrapped anyway.


i didn't realize 61 was going to be converted to open topper, that would make sense

(05 Feb 2021, 10:20 am)Ianthegoon 19439 is listed under "Vehicles for Disposal", with a note that the reason is "Fire damage" in the most recent fleet allocation card which I have seen.

As the card is dated for November last year, it's quite possible that events have moved on and the vehicle disposed of - but it won't be coming back!

With regard to the suggestion that older vehicles have been repaired:  Bodywork damage can be relatively easily sorted, sometimes by cannibalising parts of other vehicles; in many cases it can be largely cosmetic, although damage around the chassis may have an effect on the structural integrity of the vehicle which would make a significant difference to the outcome.  A fire, on the other hand, will result in major damage to the parts of the bus that make it go, as well as to the lower portions of the body, which would be an altogether different approach to possible repair and far more likely resulting in disposal for scrap once re-usable parts have been stripped.

i remembered  when 19151 had its fire there was doubt it would have been repaired, I hadn't heard anything on 439 in a while so was hopeful, i have been out the loop with fleet cards so had missed that, its a shame, did anything replace it?
Edited 05 Feb 2021, 3:01 pm by toward6931.
toward6931
05 Feb 2021, 2:54 pm #19

(05 Feb 2021, 8:25 am)Dans_bus_photos But 19161 is being converted into an open top bus so won't cost anywhere near the price of rebuilding a bus thats been fire damaged. I think 19439 has already been scrapped anyway.


i didn't realize 61 was going to be converted to open topper, that would make sense

(05 Feb 2021, 10:20 am)Ianthegoon 19439 is listed under "Vehicles for Disposal", with a note that the reason is "Fire damage" in the most recent fleet allocation card which I have seen.

As the card is dated for November last year, it's quite possible that events have moved on and the vehicle disposed of - but it won't be coming back!

With regard to the suggestion that older vehicles have been repaired:  Bodywork damage can be relatively easily sorted, sometimes by cannibalising parts of other vehicles; in many cases it can be largely cosmetic, although damage around the chassis may have an effect on the structural integrity of the vehicle which would make a significant difference to the outcome.  A fire, on the other hand, will result in major damage to the parts of the bus that make it go, as well as to the lower portions of the body, which would be an altogether different approach to possible repair and far more likely resulting in disposal for scrap once re-usable parts have been stripped.

i remembered  when 19151 had its fire there was doubt it would have been repaired, I hadn't heard anything on 439 in a while so was hopeful, i have been out the loop with fleet cards so had missed that, its a shame, did anything replace it?

V514DFT



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05 Feb 2021, 3:29 pm #20
19439 is dead, it wasnt just fire damage,it was VERY fire damaged

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
05 Feb 2021, 3:29 pm #20

19439 is dead, it wasnt just fire damage,it was VERY fire damaged


Kind Regards
Tez

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