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Michael



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11 Jul 2020, 9:47 am #1
Seen this on Dan's Twitter this morning.... when someone mentioned about the B5's going on the X84/X85..

I wonder whats been allocated?

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This is what's coming up for movements


10 Streetlites from Red Kite
7 Volvo B5’s from X9/X10
4 B9’s from Red Kite (Still going to EYMS?)
8 Streetlites from the Saltwell Park
13 B9’s from Consett
14 B9’s from Red Arrow
1 B7 from Red Arrow
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Michael
11 Jul 2020, 9:47 am #1

Seen this on Dan's Twitter this morning.... when someone mentioned about the B5's going on the X84/X85..

I wonder whats been allocated?

Edit:

This is what's coming up for movements


10 Streetlites from Red Kite
7 Volvo B5’s from X9/X10
4 B9’s from Red Kite (Still going to EYMS?)
8 Streetlites from the Saltwell Park
13 B9’s from Consett
14 B9’s from Red Arrow
1 B7 from Red Arrow

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citaro5284



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11 Jul 2020, 8:10 pm #2
Its mentioned on a couple of facebook groups that the X1 are now getting Streetdecks and not the ADL's
citaro5284
11 Jul 2020, 8:10 pm #2

Its mentioned on a couple of facebook groups that the X1 are now getting Streetdecks and not the ADL's

Malarkey



6,060
11 Jul 2020, 8:18 pm #3
Makes more sense to have the E400MMC's at Consett for the X45/X46/X47 & X31/X70/X71 for Depot Standardisation purposes than having a mix of different vehicle types across said services.
Malarkey
11 Jul 2020, 8:18 pm #3

Makes more sense to have the E400MMC's at Consett for the X45/X46/X47 & X31/X70/X71 for Depot Standardisation purposes than having a mix of different vehicle types across said services.

11 Jul 2020, 8:25 pm #4
(11 Jul 2020, 8:18 pm)Malarkey Makes more sense to have the E400MMC's at Consett for the X45/X46/X47 & X31/X70/X71 for Depot Standardisation purposes than having a mix of different vehicle types across said services.

Is there enough of them though? And realistically, wouldn't you then have the same issue with having StreetDecks at Washington?
streetdeckfan
11 Jul 2020, 8:25 pm #4

(11 Jul 2020, 8:18 pm)Malarkey Makes more sense to have the E400MMC's at Consett for the X45/X46/X47 & X31/X70/X71 for Depot Standardisation purposes than having a mix of different vehicle types across said services.

Is there enough of them though? And realistically, wouldn't you then have the same issue with having StreetDecks at Washington?

Stanleyone

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11 Jul 2020, 8:31 pm #5
(11 Jul 2020, 8:18 pm)Malarkey Makes more sense to have the E400MMC's at Consett for the X45/X46/X47 & X31/X70/X71 for Depot Standardisation purposes than having a mix of different vehicle types across said services.
Not all going to Consett.
Stanleyone
11 Jul 2020, 8:31 pm #5

(11 Jul 2020, 8:18 pm)Malarkey Makes more sense to have the E400MMC's at Consett for the X45/X46/X47 & X31/X70/X71 for Depot Standardisation purposes than having a mix of different vehicle types across said services.
Not all going to Consett.

11 Jul 2020, 8:38 pm #6
(11 Jul 2020, 8:31 pm)Stanleyone Not all going to Consett.

Hopefully none will end up on the X21!
streetdeckfan
11 Jul 2020, 8:38 pm #6

(11 Jul 2020, 8:31 pm)Stanleyone Not all going to Consett.

Hopefully none will end up on the X21!

Stanleyone

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12 Jul 2020, 5:37 am #7
(11 Jul 2020, 10:33 pm)Michael

5 of the E400's going on the X84/X85?
Not 5, the new plan calls for the X70/X71 to once again inter work with the X30 at Newcastle. Will the hourly link from Stanley to Consett remain?, in my honest opinion, not at the current times. Heading for Newcastle the 16 runs 2 mins in front from Catchgate and heading to Consett it's on stand and loaded before the X30 gets in from Newcastle.
Stanleyone
12 Jul 2020, 5:37 am #7

(11 Jul 2020, 10:33 pm)Michael

5 of the E400's going on the X84/X85?
Not 5, the new plan calls for the X70/X71 to once again inter work with the X30 at Newcastle. Will the hourly link from Stanley to Consett remain?, in my honest opinion, not at the current times. Heading for Newcastle the 16 runs 2 mins in front from Catchgate and heading to Consett it's on stand and loaded before the X30 gets in from Newcastle.

L469 YVK



3,545
12 Jul 2020, 8:02 am #8
(12 Jul 2020, 5:37 am)Stanleyone Not 5, the new plan calls for the X70/X71 to once again inter work with the X30 at Newcastle. Will the hourly link from Stanley to Consett remain?, in my honest opinion, not at the current times. Heading for Newcastle the 16 runs 2 mins in front from Catchgate and heading to Consett it's on stand and loaded before the X30 gets in from Newcastle.
Well.........the E400MMCs aren't all going to Consett. So given that GoNE have sorted the issue of an unsuitable vehicle type on one route (X9/X10), perhaps they'll do the same for the X21.
L469 YVK
12 Jul 2020, 8:02 am #8

(12 Jul 2020, 5:37 am)Stanleyone Not 5, the new plan calls for the X70/X71 to once again inter work with the X30 at Newcastle. Will the hourly link from Stanley to Consett remain?, in my honest opinion, not at the current times. Heading for Newcastle the 16 runs 2 mins in front from Catchgate and heading to Consett it's on stand and loaded before the X30 gets in from Newcastle.
Well.........the E400MMCs aren't all going to Consett. So given that GoNE have sorted the issue of an unsuitable vehicle type on one route (X9/X10), perhaps they'll do the same for the X21.

cbma06



2,669
12 Jul 2020, 8:47 am #9
(12 Jul 2020, 8:02 am)L469 YVK Well.........the E400MMCs aren't all going to Consett. So given that GoNE have sorted the issue of an unsuitable vehicle type on one route (X9/X10), perhaps they'll do the same for the X21.


Does anyone know the upcoming fleet changes are?


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cbma06
12 Jul 2020, 8:47 am #9

(12 Jul 2020, 8:02 am)L469 YVK Well.........the E400MMCs aren't all going to Consett. So given that GoNE have sorted the issue of an unsuitable vehicle type on one route (X9/X10), perhaps they'll do the same for the X21.


Does anyone know the upcoming fleet changes are?


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L469 YVK



3,545
12 Jul 2020, 8:48 am #10
(12 Jul 2020, 5:37 am)Stanleyone Not 5, the new plan calls for the X70/X71 to once again inter work with the X30 at Newcastle. Will the hourly link from Stanley to Consett remain?, in my honest opinion, not at the current times. Heading for Newcastle the 16 runs 2 mins in front from Catchgate and heading to Consett it's on stand and loaded before the X30 gets in from Newcastle.
So I take it Consett's interworking patterns will look something like this:

X30/(X70/X71)/X30 (PVR 8)
Consett (X71): 00:25
Newcastle (X71): 01:23
Newcastle (X30): 01:30
Stanley (X30): 02:08
Stanley (X30): 02:15
Newcastle (X30): 02:54
Newcastle (X71): 03:00
Consett (X71): 03:55 >>>>>> then layover at Consett until xx:25 (or xx:52 if X70)

X45/X31/X46/X46/X47/X45 (PVR 17)
Consett (X45): 00:05
Newcastle (X45): 01:08
Newcastle (X31): 01:15
Stanley (X31): 01:53
Stanley (X31): 02:00
Newcastle (X31): 02:39
Newcastle (X46): 02:45
Consett (X46): 03:45

Then..................

Consett (X46): 03:55
Newcastle (X46): 04:58
Newcastle (X47): 05:05
Blackhall Mill (X47): 05:57
<<<<<<<<< extra layover for reliability or allow more running time>>>>>>>>>>
Blackhall Mill (X47): 06:20
Newcastle (X47): 07:18
Newcastle (X45): 07:25
Consett (X45): 08:25
L469 YVK
12 Jul 2020, 8:48 am #10

(12 Jul 2020, 5:37 am)Stanleyone Not 5, the new plan calls for the X70/X71 to once again inter work with the X30 at Newcastle. Will the hourly link from Stanley to Consett remain?, in my honest opinion, not at the current times. Heading for Newcastle the 16 runs 2 mins in front from Catchgate and heading to Consett it's on stand and loaded before the X30 gets in from Newcastle.
So I take it Consett's interworking patterns will look something like this:

X30/(X70/X71)/X30 (PVR 8)
Consett (X71): 00:25
Newcastle (X71): 01:23
Newcastle (X30): 01:30
Stanley (X30): 02:08
Stanley (X30): 02:15
Newcastle (X30): 02:54
Newcastle (X71): 03:00
Consett (X71): 03:55 >>>>>> then layover at Consett until xx:25 (or xx:52 if X70)

X45/X31/X46/X46/X47/X45 (PVR 17)
Consett (X45): 00:05
Newcastle (X45): 01:08
Newcastle (X31): 01:15
Stanley (X31): 01:53
Stanley (X31): 02:00
Newcastle (X31): 02:39
Newcastle (X46): 02:45
Consett (X46): 03:45

Then..................

Consett (X46): 03:55
Newcastle (X46): 04:58
Newcastle (X47): 05:05
Blackhall Mill (X47): 05:57
<<<<<<<<< extra layover for reliability or allow more running time>>>>>>>>>>
Blackhall Mill (X47): 06:20
Newcastle (X47): 07:18
Newcastle (X45): 07:25
Consett (X45): 08:25

Stanleyone

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12 Jul 2020, 9:02 am #11
(12 Jul 2020, 8:47 am)cbma06 Does anyone know the upcoming fleet changes are?


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On here probably just Dan. Gne staff know what's going where with new vehicles but cascades weren't mentioned, and in all honesty to most drivers who have no interest in buses dont really care.
Stanleyone
12 Jul 2020, 9:02 am #11

(12 Jul 2020, 8:47 am)cbma06 Does anyone know the upcoming fleet changes are?


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On here probably just Dan. Gne staff know what's going where with new vehicles but cascades weren't mentioned, and in all honesty to most drivers who have no interest in buses dont really care.

Michael



19,145
12 Jul 2020, 10:09 am #12
(12 Jul 2020, 8:48 am)L469 YVK So I take it Consett's interworking patterns will look something like this:

X30/(X70/X71)/X30 (PVR 8)
Consett (X71): 00:25
Newcastle (X71): 01:23
Newcastle (X30): 01:30
Stanley (X30): 02:08
Stanley (X30): 02:15
Newcastle (X30): 02:54
Newcastle (X71): 03:00
Consett (X71): 03:55 >>>>>> then layover at Consett until xx:25 (or xx:52 if X70)

X45/X31/X46/X46/X47/X45 (PVR 17)
Consett (X45): 00:05
Newcastle (X45): 01:08
Newcastle (X31): 01:15
Stanley (X31): 01:53
Stanley (X31): 02:00
Newcastle (X31): 02:39
Newcastle (X46): 02:45
Consett (X46): 03:45

Then..................

Consett (X46): 03:55
Newcastle (X46): 04:58
Newcastle (X47): 05:05
Blackhall Mill (X47): 05:57
<<<<<<<<< extra layover for reliability or allow more running time>>>>>>>>>>
Blackhall Mill (X47): 06:20
Newcastle (X47): 07:18
Newcastle (X45): 07:25
Consett (X45): 08:25



Does the PVR 8 for the 3 already here for the X30? (just checking Tongue)

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Wonder if they would want a full batch of the same bus on the Red Arrows though instead of a mixture.



My predication's would be:


13 Streetdecks on the X1 + 1 spare


8 Streetdecks on the X30/(X70/X71)/X30


15 E400 + the 2 from the X30 go on to the X45/X31/X46/X46/X47/X45 + 1 spare


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It also looks like the X84/X85 isn't getting the X9/X10 deckers so it makes me think, that those services will get B9 cascades (due to Hexham having B9's) - but refurbished in to X-Lines.


X5/X15 also gaining B9 cascades - refurbished in to X-Lines


Red Arrow B9's to the Crusader

B9's on the Loop

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
12 Jul 2020, 10:09 am #12

(12 Jul 2020, 8:48 am)L469 YVK So I take it Consett's interworking patterns will look something like this:

X30/(X70/X71)/X30 (PVR 8)
Consett (X71): 00:25
Newcastle (X71): 01:23
Newcastle (X30): 01:30
Stanley (X30): 02:08
Stanley (X30): 02:15
Newcastle (X30): 02:54
Newcastle (X71): 03:00
Consett (X71): 03:55 >>>>>> then layover at Consett until xx:25 (or xx:52 if X70)

X45/X31/X46/X46/X47/X45 (PVR 17)
Consett (X45): 00:05
Newcastle (X45): 01:08
Newcastle (X31): 01:15
Stanley (X31): 01:53
Stanley (X31): 02:00
Newcastle (X31): 02:39
Newcastle (X46): 02:45
Consett (X46): 03:45

Then..................

Consett (X46): 03:55
Newcastle (X46): 04:58
Newcastle (X47): 05:05
Blackhall Mill (X47): 05:57
<<<<<<<<< extra layover for reliability or allow more running time>>>>>>>>>>
Blackhall Mill (X47): 06:20
Newcastle (X47): 07:18
Newcastle (X45): 07:25
Consett (X45): 08:25



Does the PVR 8 for the 3 already here for the X30? (just checking Tongue)

---------


Wonder if they would want a full batch of the same bus on the Red Arrows though instead of a mixture.



My predication's would be:


13 Streetdecks on the X1 + 1 spare


8 Streetdecks on the X30/(X70/X71)/X30


15 E400 + the 2 from the X30 go on to the X45/X31/X46/X46/X47/X45 + 1 spare


-----------

It also looks like the X84/X85 isn't getting the X9/X10 deckers so it makes me think, that those services will get B9 cascades (due to Hexham having B9's) - but refurbished in to X-Lines.


X5/X15 also gaining B9 cascades - refurbished in to X-Lines


Red Arrow B9's to the Crusader

B9's on the Loop


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

S813 FVK



6,030
12 Jul 2020, 10:17 am #13
Streetdecks would be no good on the X30 unless they were to revise the route in Dunston, and I think we could all guess how likely that will be.
S813 FVK
12 Jul 2020, 10:17 am #13

Streetdecks would be no good on the X30 unless they were to revise the route in Dunston, and I think we could all guess how likely that will be.

Stanleyone

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12 Jul 2020, 10:18 am #14
(12 Jul 2020, 10:09 am)Michael Does the PVR 8 for the 3 already here for the X30? (just checking Tongue)

---------


Wonder if they would want a full batch of the same bus on the Red Arrows though instead of a mixture.



My predication's would be:


13 Streetdecks on the X1 + 1 spare


8 Streetdecks on the X30/(X70/X71)/X30


15 E400 + the 2 from the X30 go on to the X45/X31/X46/X46/X47/X45 + 1 spare



But it also looks like the X84/X85 isn't getting the X9/X10 deckers so it makes me think, that those services will get B9 cascades - but refurbished in to X-Lines.

X5/X15 also gaining B9 cascades - refurbished in to X-Lines
Streetdecks can't go under dunston bridge. 8 e400s needed for x30/x70s.
Stanleyone
12 Jul 2020, 10:18 am #14

(12 Jul 2020, 10:09 am)Michael Does the PVR 8 for the 3 already here for the X30? (just checking Tongue)

---------


Wonder if they would want a full batch of the same bus on the Red Arrows though instead of a mixture.



My predication's would be:


13 Streetdecks on the X1 + 1 spare


8 Streetdecks on the X30/(X70/X71)/X30


15 E400 + the 2 from the X30 go on to the X45/X31/X46/X46/X47/X45 + 1 spare



But it also looks like the X84/X85 isn't getting the X9/X10 deckers so it makes me think, that those services will get B9 cascades - but refurbished in to X-Lines.

X5/X15 also gaining B9 cascades - refurbished in to X-Lines
Streetdecks can't go under dunston bridge. 8 e400s needed for x30/x70s.

Michael



19,145
12 Jul 2020, 10:20 am #15
Ah i forgot about that!....................


Seems like the Stanley could be getting a spilt allocation then of Streetdecks and E400's

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
12 Jul 2020, 10:20 am #15

Ah i forgot about that!....................


Seems like the Stanley could be getting a spilt allocation then of Streetdecks and E400's


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

L469 YVK



3,545
12 Jul 2020, 10:38 am #16
(12 Jul 2020, 10:09 am)Michael 8 Streetdecks on the X30/(X70/X71)/X30
Unless East Yorkshire want some newly converted open toppers on the cheap haha!
L469 YVK
12 Jul 2020, 10:38 am #16

(12 Jul 2020, 10:09 am)Michael 8 Streetdecks on the X30/(X70/X71)/X30
Unless East Yorkshire want some newly converted open toppers on the cheap haha!

Michael



19,145
12 Jul 2020, 10:42 am #17
Changed my predication's..............

New buses:

21 Streetdecks + 1 Euro 6 (spare role due to it moving around the depots)
15 E400’s


Allocations:


14 Streetdecks on the X1 + 1 spare = 15


7 Streetdecks + 10 E400’s on the X31/X45/X46/X47 = 17 PVR


5 New E400’s + current 3 on the X30/X70/X71 = 8 PVR



Spares for Consett:


6335/6336/6337 – X-Lines spares for Consett

= 3 spares for a PVR 25

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
12 Jul 2020, 10:42 am #17

Changed my predication's..............

New buses:

21 Streetdecks + 1 Euro 6 (spare role due to it moving around the depots)
15 E400’s


Allocations:


14 Streetdecks on the X1 + 1 spare = 15


7 Streetdecks + 10 E400’s on the X31/X45/X46/X47 = 17 PVR


5 New E400’s + current 3 on the X30/X70/X71 = 8 PVR



Spares for Consett:


6335/6336/6337 – X-Lines spares for Consett

= 3 spares for a PVR 25


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

12 Jul 2020, 10:59 am #18
(12 Jul 2020, 10:42 am)Michael Changed my predication's..............

New buses:

21 Streetdecks + 1 Euro 6 (spare role due to it moving around the depots)
15 E400’s


Allocations:


14 Streetdecks on the X1 + 1 spare = 15


7 Streetdecks + 10 E400’s on the X31/X45/X46/X47 = 17 PVR


5 New E400’s + current 3 on the X30/X70/X71 = 8 PVR



Spares for Consett:


6335/6336/6337 – X-Lines spares for Consett

= 3 spares for a PVR 25
I might have missed something, but where are the X9 | X10 deckers going?
There are currently 7, which 2/ 3 could be used for spares at Consett and the rest used for either the X5/ 15 instead of refurbishing B9TLs. As all they’d need would be a repaint and some vinyls and they’d be fully suitable, because they’re already in X lines spec.
Adtrainsam
12 Jul 2020, 10:59 am #18

(12 Jul 2020, 10:42 am)Michael Changed my predication's..............

New buses:

21 Streetdecks + 1 Euro 6 (spare role due to it moving around the depots)
15 E400’s


Allocations:


14 Streetdecks on the X1 + 1 spare = 15


7 Streetdecks + 10 E400’s on the X31/X45/X46/X47 = 17 PVR


5 New E400’s + current 3 on the X30/X70/X71 = 8 PVR



Spares for Consett:


6335/6336/6337 – X-Lines spares for Consett

= 3 spares for a PVR 25
I might have missed something, but where are the X9 | X10 deckers going?
There are currently 7, which 2/ 3 could be used for spares at Consett and the rest used for either the X5/ 15 instead of refurbishing B9TLs. As all they’d need would be a repaint and some vinyls and they’d be fully suitable, because they’re already in X lines spec.

Michael



19,145
12 Jul 2020, 11:06 am #19
(12 Jul 2020, 10:59 am)Adtrainsam I might have missed something, but where are the X9 | X10 deckers going?
There are currently 7, which 2/ 3 could be used for spares at Consett and the rest used for either the X5/ 15 instead of refurbishing B9TLs. As all they’d need would be a repaint and some vinyls and they’d be fully suitable, because they’re already in X lines spec.

Your guess is as good as ours, they were rumoured to be going on the X84/X85 but then it was hinted they weren't so no idea.

The Black version of the X-Lines, is the X-Lines spare livery.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
12 Jul 2020, 11:06 am #19

(12 Jul 2020, 10:59 am)Adtrainsam I might have missed something, but where are the X9 | X10 deckers going?
There are currently 7, which 2/ 3 could be used for spares at Consett and the rest used for either the X5/ 15 instead of refurbishing B9TLs. As all they’d need would be a repaint and some vinyls and they’d be fully suitable, because they’re already in X lines spec.

Your guess is as good as ours, they were rumoured to be going on the X84/X85 but then it was hinted they weren't so no idea.

The Black version of the X-Lines, is the X-Lines spare livery.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

12 Jul 2020, 11:17 am #20
(12 Jul 2020, 11:06 am)Michael Your guess is as good as ours, they were rumoured to be going on the X84/X85 but then it was hinted they weren't so no idea.

The Black version of the X-Lines, is the X-Lines spare livery.
Could they go on the 6/6a or 13/X25 with B9s going on X84/85?
NewcastleOne
12 Jul 2020, 11:17 am #20

(12 Jul 2020, 11:06 am)Michael Your guess is as good as ours, they were rumoured to be going on the X84/X85 but then it was hinted they weren't so no idea.

The Black version of the X-Lines, is the X-Lines spare livery.
Could they go on the 6/6a or 13/X25 with B9s going on X84/85?

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