South East Bus Operations

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Reading Buses have announced the start of plans to rebrand the Courtney operation that they purchased earlier this year. It will be merged with the existing Thames Valley name - complete with a fresh new look with a grey base livery and coloured splashes which will change depending on area of operation, much like the existing Courtney Buses fleet. I personally really like it, though it is a shame that the Courtney name will disappear, it probably makes sense to rebrand it to better represent the wide area of operation.

Existing Thames Valley service 5 which was taken on commercially following withdrawal by First (after a short time as a council contract) will receive three new ADL E200s which are likely to be the first to wear the new livery.

Courtney services 2, 10/11 and 15 will be the first to receive the new brand, with improvements to timetables to better co-ordinate the whole network including service 10 running hourly all day between Heathrow & Dedworth via Slough & Windsor.



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I feel like I've heard or read this story before. Either way, no idea if it's been mentioned on here. 

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What are the new E400's replacing at Brighton and Hove buses?

Fleet numbers from the Brighton and Hove Buses official fleet news:

NEW VEHICLES 2020
Alexander Dennis Enviro 400ER H39/25D + 1 wheelchair Built 2020
331 YX70 OJA 08/10/2020 B&H Above & Beyond Courtney Brewer-Wren SFD82BER5LGX21538
332 YX70 OJB 15/10/2020 B&H Above & Beyond Christopher Challis SFD82BER5LGX21539
333 YX70 OJC 15/10/2020 B&H Above & Beyond Michael Childs SFD82BER5LGX21545
334 YX70 OJD 16/10/2020 B&H Above & Beyond K S Duleepsinhji SFD82BER5LGX21546
335 YX70 OJE 29/10/2020 B&H Above & Beyond Cyril Dutton SFD82BER5LGX21547
336 YX70 OJF B&H Above & Beyond Ann Ewings SFD82BER5LGX21556
337 YX70 OJG 22/10/2020 B&H Above & Beyond Denis Foreman SFD82BER5LGX21554
338 YX70 OJH 15/10/2020 B&H Above & Beyond Tehmtan Framroze SFD82BER5LGX21551
339 YX70 OJJ 22/10/2020 B&H Above & Beyond Graham Greene SFD82BER5LGX21552
340 YX70 OJK 16/10/2020 B&H Above & Beyond Frank Hazell SFD82BER5LGX21558
341 YX70 OJL 23/10/2020 B&H Above & Beyond Ernest Henley SFD82BER5LGX21560
342 YX70 OJM 17/10/2020 B&H Above & Beyond Albert Huberman SFD82BER5LGX21561
343 YX70 OJN 29/10/2020 B&H Above & Beyond Eric Jupp SFD82BER5LGX21565
344 YX70 OJO 22/10/2020 B&H Above & Beyond James Ledward SFD82BER5LGX21562
345 YX70 OJP 28/10/2020 B&H Above & Beyond Charlie Moore SFD82BER5LGX21569
346 YX70 OJR 17/10/2020 B&H Above & Beyond Fred Netley SFD82BER5LGX21570
347 YX70 OJS 28/10/2020 B&H Above & Beyond Maurice Packham SFD82BER5LGX21580
348 YX70 OJT B&H Above & Beyond Jamie Watton SFD82BER5LGX21579
349 YX70 OJU B&H Above & Beyond TBC SFD82BER5LGX21581
350 YX70 OJV B&H Above & Beyond TBC SFD82BER5LGX21591
351 YX70 OJW B&H Above & Beyond TBC SFD82BER5LGX21584
352 YX70 OJY B&H Above & Beyond TBC SFD82BER5LGX21585
353 YX70 OJZ B&H Above & Beyond TBC SFD82BER5LGX21592
354 YX70 OKA B&H Above & Beyond TBC SFD82BER5LGX21590
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(31 Oct 2020, 7:18 pm)Michael Wrote: What are the new E400's replacing at Brighton and Hove buses?

It'll displace some of their StreetDecks (which have been de-branded) for use on other routes, serving as replacement buses for some of their oldest Scania OmniDekkas: 629 to 636, 642 to 649, 662, 665, 904 and 916.
(31 Oct 2020, 7:24 pm)Dan Wrote: It'll displace some of their StreetDecks (which have been de-branded) for use on other routes, serving as replacement buses for some of their oldest Scania OmniDekkas: 629 to 636, 642 to 649, 662, 665, 904 and 916.


Thanks for the information, quite a chuck of Omnidekka's going.

Are they all going to be scrapped?
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(31 Oct 2020, 7:31 pm)Michael Wrote: Thanks for the information, quite a chuck of Omnidekka's going.

Are they all going to be scrapped?

Be surprised to see them scrapped - they're a mixed batch of 54/55/56 plate.
(31 Oct 2020, 7:31 pm)Michael Wrote: Thanks for the information, quite a chuck of Omnidekka's going.

Are they all going to be scrapped?

Knowing our luck they'll be heading North
(31 Oct 2020, 7:35 pm)Malarkey Wrote: Knowing our luck they'll be heading North

Might help with the extra capacity needed.
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(31 Oct 2020, 7:35 pm)Malarkey Wrote: Knowing our luck they'll be heading North

No plans for them to head north - all of the 54-plate Volvo B7s will be surplus to requirements once Go North East stops operating all of the additional scholars duplicates services they are operating currently, and there's little point in replacing an 03-plate OmniDekka with a 54-plate one. The two 56-plate long wheelbase examples would have been the only two of interest.
(31 Oct 2020, 7:24 pm)Dan Wrote: It'll displace some of their StreetDecks (which have been de-branded) for use on other routes, serving as replacement buses for some of their oldest Scania OmniDekkas: 629 to 636, 642 to 649, 662, 665, 904 and 916.
I thought that the Mercedes Bendies on the 25 were not suitable for the Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) in Brighton City centre so would need replacing. So I would have expected the Streetdecks to move from the 1 & 1A onto the 25.

I maybe wrong though and someone has come up with a Euro 5 conversion for the Mercs so that they can still operate in the ULEZ?
(31 Oct 2020, 9:38 pm)IRHardy Wrote: I thought that the Mercedes Bendies on the 25 were not suitable for the Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) in Brighton City centre so would need replacing. So I would have expected the Streetdecks to move from the 1 & 1A onto the 25.

I maybe wrong though and someone has come up with a Euro 5 conversion for the Mercs so that they can still operate in the ULEZ?



Definitely the OmniDekkas being withdrawn.

Not sure what the plans are for the 25 but double-decks would be unsuitable once we’re out of the current situation. It’d take passengers too long to climb the stairs.


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(31 Oct 2020, 10:27 pm)Dan Wrote: Definitely the OmniDekkas being withdrawn.

Not sure what the plans are for the 25 but double-decks would be unsuitable once we’re out of the current situation. It’d take passengers too long to climb the stairs.


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Many thanks, as OmniDekkas are old than the Merc artics it is probably correct that they should go first.

B&H are also transferring 6 Volvo B9TLs (480-485) to Metrobus for the 420 Crawley - Sutton to replace the ex B&H Scanias as they don't comply with the London emission rules, 480 is now Metrobus 6901: http://history.buses.co.uk/history/fleet...ar6901.jpg
(31 Oct 2020, 7:40 pm)Dan Wrote: No plans for them to head north - all of the 54-plate Volvo B7s will be surplus to requirements once Go North East stops operating all of the additional scholars duplicates services they are operating currently, and there's little point in replacing an 03-plate OmniDekka with a 54-plate one. The two 56-plate long wheelbase examples would have been the only two of interest.

Any idea when the dupe buses will actually end?
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20 Single Deck Hydrogen Buses for Brighton & Hove/Metrobus to be supplied via Wrightbus
https://newsroom.go-ahead.com/news/go-ah...ogen-buses
(04 Nov 2021, 10:54 pm)Malarkey Wrote: 20 Single Deck Hydrogen Buses for Brighton & Hove/Metrobus to be supplied via Wrightbus
https://newsroom.go-ahead.com/news/go-ah...ogen-buses

Supply deal for liquid hydrogen to fuel these buses has now been agreed with Air Products: https://www.route-one.net/news/go-ahead-...pply-deal/

As this will be Go Ahead's first run in Hydrogen, hopefully it and the data is positive and opens up the doors to look at Hydrogen buses as a solution elsewhere in their UK operation.

Had to do a bit digging, as it's not on the latest press releases, but the hefty public funding towards this project is £4.36m from the UK Government's Ultra Low Emission Bus Scheme and £2.9m from the European Union’s JIVE2 project, which is confirmed in this article.
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