Go North East & Stanley Travel to assist Arriva Northumberland due to Covid Issues
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RE: Go North East to assist Arriva Northumberland due to Covid Issues
(12 Feb 2021, 7:09 pm)makem1 Wrote: It just shows how easy it is to spread covid, and what a fantastic job the drivers are doing, they need a helluva lot more praise than they presently get

I may get flack for this but supermarket workers are low down in my opinion of key workers. They could easily be replaced imo.

I'm a courier driver and don't class myself as too important either. Anyone with a drivers licence can drive a white van.

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RE: Go North East to assist Arriva Northumberland due to Covid Issues
(13 Feb 2021, 10:01 am)idiot Wrote: I may get flack for this but supermarket workers are low down in my opinion of key workers. They could easily be replaced imo.

I'm a courier driver and don't class myself as too important either. Anyone with a drivers licence can drive a white van.
I see where you're coming from, but equally to me supermarket workers are some of the most vulnerable out of all the 'key workers'.

They come into contact with more people than just about any other worker, without the proper PPE you get working for the NHS, or without sitting behind the screen like a bus driver (believe it or not, not everyone works on a checkout behind a screen like some people like to think).

Then you've got the issue of having to touch all the stock that the public have touched (no doubt while fiddling with their mask)

If you've been to a supermarket recently, you'll see how little social distancing there is, customers literally climb over each other to get a block of cheese, especially around the reduced section when the workers are trying to put it out!


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RE: Go North East to assist Arriva Northumberland due to Covid Issues
They come into contact with more people than just about any other worker, without the proper PPE you get working for the NHS, or without sitting behind the screen like a bus driver (believe it or not, not everyone works on a checkout behind a screen like some people like to think).


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The buses I drive have no screens at all nor roped off seats or hand sanitiser strategically positioned

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RE: Go North East to assist Arriva Northumberland due to Covid Issues
(13 Feb 2021, 11:54 am)RM2186 Wrote: They come into contact with more people than just about any other worker, without the proper PPE you get working for the NHS, or without sitting behind the screen like a bus driver (believe it or not, not everyone works on a checkout behind a screen like some people like to think).


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The buses I drive have no screens at all nor roped off seats or hand sanitiser strategically positioned

Well I’d suggest speaking to your employer? The point being made is that staff at Asda Byker are coming into more close contact than the driver of the Coaster 1A route. Not an exact science, but Go North East drivers don’t even need to wear masks because of the screen in place which offers them adequate protection. Although having said this, I do think putting various key workers above each other in risk levels is a little toxic, all workers should be appreciated right now - including those working from home too - wether you’re a police officer, a bus driver, or a McDonald’s worker having to physically attend work or a call centre worker trying to ‘Work from Home’ with the dog barking in the background or someone trying to do accounting while home schooling. 

Speaking of the safety measures on buses, does make me wonder how these recent outbreaks have spread within bus operators. GNE seem to handling it well but Arriva are struggling it seems? I’ve never been on buses since before the pandemic, but is there a sufficient cleaning between driver change overs inside the cab and is social distancing achievable during meal/rest breaks?

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RE: Go North East to assist Arriva Northumberland due to Covid Issues
(13 Feb 2021, 1:42 pm)Drifter60 Wrote: Well I’d suggest speaking to your employer? The point being made is that staff at Asda Byker are coming into more close contact than the driver of the Coaster 1A route. Not an exact science, but Go North East drivers don’t even need to wear masks because of the screen in place which offers them adequate protection. Although having said this, I do think putting various key workers above each other in risk levels is a little toxic, all workers should be appreciated right now - including those working from home too - wether you’re a police officer, a bus driver, or a McDonald’s worker having to physically attend work or a call centre worker trying to ‘Work from Home’ with the dog barking in the background or someone trying to do accounting while home schooling. 

Speaking of the safety measures on buses, does make me wonder how these recent outbreaks have spread within bus operators. GNE seem to handling it well but Arriva are struggling it seems? I’ve never been on buses since before the pandemic, but is there a sufficient cleaning between driver change overs inside the cab and is social distancing achievable during meal/rest breaks?

The number of drivers probably makes a big help when it comes to GNE, there's some school contracts plus the National Express work which has all been cancelled atm so even if half the staff did catch the virus then it wouldn't cause as much as an impact compared to Arriva who's only work is their service work so if you lose half the staff then your going to be short.

Can't really comment on Stagecoach but the movement of services around at Sunderland/South Shields could very well be linked to issues at South Shields.

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RE: Go North East to assist Arriva Northumberland due to Covid Issues
Several times throughout last year when walking through Haymarket I kept seeing multiple Arriva staff stood chatting within 2m of each other, several without masks, either at the door to the Arriva staff room/office or smoking in the seating area just outside the bus station.
I haven’t walked through there since Christmas, but hopefully they’re acting more appropriately now since their recent internal scares/losses.

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RE: Go North East to assist Arriva Northumberland due to Covid Issues
Has it been confirmed what buses will be allocated to the 46 and 51/51A?
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RE: Go North East to assist Arriva Northumberland due to Covid Issues
(13 Feb 2021, 1:42 pm)Drifter60 Wrote: Well I’d suggest speaking to your employer? The point being made is that staff at Asda Byker are coming into more close contact than the driver of the Coaster 1A route. Not an exact science, but Go North East drivers don’t even need to wear masks because of the screen in place which offers them adequate protection. Although having said this, I do think putting various key workers above each other in risk levels is a little toxic, all workers should be appreciated right now - including those working from home too - wether you’re a police officer, a bus driver, or a McDonald’s worker having to physically attend work or a call centre worker trying to ‘Work from Home’ with the dog barking in the background or someone trying to do accounting while home schooling. 

Speaking of the safety measures on buses, does make me wonder how these recent outbreaks have spread within bus operators. GNE seem to handling it well but Arriva are struggling it seems? I’ve never been on buses since before the pandemic, but is there a sufficient cleaning between driver change overs inside the cab and is social distancing achievable during meal/rest breaks?

If they're going to vaccinate people in the future based on their risk, then to me bus drivers that are protected by a screen should be fairly far down the 'priority list' due to their relatively little amount of exposure to people. Same with people working in banks, and even GP receptionist.

As for the cleaning, in Durham from what I've seen Arriva have actually been quite good at driver change overs. Last time I was there (which, granted was a few weeks ago now) they were wiping down the entire cabs with some cleaning spray.
But then they all hang around together opposite the bus station with no social distancing, so...

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RE: Go North East to assist Arriva Northumberland due to Covid Issues
(13 Feb 2021, 7:28 pm)Michael Wrote: Has it been confirmed what buses will be allocated to the 46 and 51/51A?
I have a feeling it will be spare solos possibly Percy mains one I guess

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RE: Go North East to assist Arriva Northumberland due to Covid Issues
(13 Feb 2021, 7:28 pm)Michael Wrote: Has it been confirmed what buses will be allocated to the 46 and 51/51A?

Service 46 is being operated by Stanley Travel, not Go North East.

Go North East will allocate 3x Scania Omnicity to services 51/51A. Though Arriva normally allocate Optare Solos, the allocation of full-size single-decks should ensure adequate social distancing.

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RE: Go North East to assist Arriva Northumberland due to Covid Issues
(14 Feb 2021, 9:25 am)Dan Wrote: Service 46 is being operated by Stanley Travel, not Go North East.

Go North East will allocate 3x Scania Omnicity to services 51/51A. Though Arriva normally allocate Optare Solos, the allocation of full-size single-decks should ensure adequate social distancing.

Ah right thank you for the information.
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RE: Go North East to assist Arriva Northumberland due to Covid Issues
(14 Feb 2021, 9:25 am)Dan Wrote: Service 46 is being operated by Stanley Travel, not Go North East.

Go North East will allocate 3x Scania Omnicity to services 51/51A. Though Arriva normally allocate Optare Solos, the allocation of full-size single-decks should ensure adequate social distancing.
Arriva in the past couple of weeks have had larger allocations on the 51, many streetlites and e400s have been on. On an unrelated note, heard from one of the arriva drivers coming home from work is that one of the drivers sadly passed away from the virus in the past week

#33
RE: Go North East to assist Arriva Northumberland due to Covid Issues
Is there any information that its just the 46/51/51A or will more soon follow

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RE: Go North East to assist Arriva Northumberland due to Covid Issues
(15 Feb 2021, 6:07 pm)JM03 Wrote: Arriva in the past couple of weeks have had larger allocations on the 51, many streetlites and e400s have been on. On an unrelated note, heard from one of the arriva drivers coming home from work is that one of the drivers sadly passed away from the virus in the past week
The 1/2 have been larger buses recently too usually a mix of pulsars and DB300s, today's allocation was 7601, 7611, 7617, 7625, 1501, 1502 & 1505.

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RMF1254
5264 was on the 51 yesterday.

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RE: RMF1254
(16 Feb 2021, 11:16 am)RMF1254 Wrote: 5264 was on the 51 yesterday.
I think it was 5249&5272 that was on it as well. (Maybe wrong)

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RE: RMF1254
(16 Feb 2021, 11:20 am)NewcastleOne Wrote: I think it was 5249&5272 that was on it as well. (Maybe wrong)
It was 5267 and 5272
5249 was on the 19 I think

#38
GNE doing Arriva routes
GNE are now operating some Arriva service 51 services.

Stanley taxi are now operating some 46 service to help with Arriva driver shortage.

Other routes are expected to follow as Arriva routes are now programmed into the GNE ticket machines.

The rumor of big shakeup among the North East bus operators with various options to merge company together is started up again. It is pretty much inevitable that something pretty drastic will happen when the funding finally does stop and it will eventually. Council looks to be the most likely option. In 2014 the council put together an idea to run the buses. The name NE buses has been dropped around a few times, indeed GNE have been operating dupes for stagecoach and Arriva for a while. All operators have come together to except each other tickets and now GNE is operating the majority of Arriva 51 service it quite obvious the direction things seem to be going in but and i must stress we will just have to wait and see what happens with covid restrictions ease.

Stay safe everyone.

#39
RE: GNE doing Arriva routes
What other routes are programmed?

#40
RE: GNE doing Arriva routes
Looks like the Jesmond routes.

Anyone know how to delete a thread, just noticed someone started one on same topic.