Arriva NE recent transfers

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(09 Apr 2021, 4:01 pm)MichealAaron Wrote: So something I want to point out. I think Ashington should withdraw 1800/1801/2809/2812/2813. Mainly because there are showing to be performing badly on the 57/57A rota. Cause today 7484 and 7515 are on it today with a failed 2813 without 2812 or 2809 replacing it. It makes me wonder now that 1579 and 1580 have gone to Belmont that now leaves 1407 being the only long single decker at Ashington which is rarely allocated to the 57 rota. I think Ashington should ethier.

A/ get the darts from Blyth and put them on or

B/ bring two long single decekrs up to replace them like VDL Pulsar. Cause there isn't a need for a decker to be put on that route as it's never busy enough  to have one on. I think the 57/57A should have VDL Pulsar allocated full time. Like give 1407 a full time allocation. Pretty sure Blyth won't mind giving 1497 up to Ashington then all you need is two more Pulsar

Btw this is just my opinion about the darts and solos at Ashington

1407 has gone to Blyth and there's also still the Omnicity's for singles.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Solo's come from Jesmond / Blyth for the MPD's and hopefully 2809 there's a lot lying around doing nothing atm. The Deckers are only allocated as there's simply nothing else to allocate, it's not by choice.

There's also no Pulsars free to send to Ashington either, the fleet is rather stretched at Ashington, Durham and Blyth as it is to send more to Ashington for no reason and Darlington is constantly loading buses from Stockton. Arriva quite badly need investment atm as Ashington has it's own problems with having 57/09 deckers running to Berwick which are also finished, no doubt the reason the X21/X22 isn't going every 20 minutes atm.
In theory 1431 should transfer back to redcar or 2866 to see 1759 into withdrawl and either pulsar or solo acts as a spare for Whitby
I'm just saying this and I aint being harsh to Arriva but Arriva won't invest in new buses. I don't think they have had new buses for ages now. If I remember correctly the last order they had was the E400MMC for Ashington. The darts and solos need to be taken of as there proven to be not the best lately
(07 Apr 2021, 11:22 am)Cobalt271 Wrote: 1407 tracks as itself because it's now permanently Ashington based according to the latest fleet list.

(07 Apr 2021, 9:20 pm)Storx Wrote: Yeah that's fair then, nice to see there's some refurbs planned.

Blyth and Ashington seem rather short on buses though mind, I know Ashington has been mentioned but Blyth has pretty much gained 4 buses for an allocation of 8 since 1401/1402 have gone (supposedly). I haven't done the maths but there doesn't seem to be enough buses without 7410/7411/7490 being frontline but I could be wrong or it's that's the lot of spares especially with the duplicates.

Also whoever mentioned Ashington being short Cobalt I believe, there'd be cancellations today if it was next week as 1580 has been on the 57 all afternoon with nothing seemingly to replace it.

During full allocation Blyth should have 4 left over decksrd between dupes with 1 left over during dupes as 3 Blyth buses are required on dupes for the 308, X7 & X11. Blyth should in theory be recieving 2 deckers from Durham seeing as 7485/87 were only meant to be there when 7609/10 were at Blyth (I think) although not sure weather Durham will send 7485/87, 2 other decksrs or nothing except the pulsars is a mystery. If Blyth don't get anymore deckers they may need to consider putting on or 2 dupes up to contract to someone else.
(09 Apr 2021, 7:39 pm)MichealAaron Wrote: I'm just saying this and I aint being harsh to Arriva but Arriva won't invest in new buses. I don't think they have had new buses for ages now. If I remember correctly the last order they had was the E400MMC for Ashington. The darts and solos need to be taken of as there proven to be not the best lately
To be honest, I think Arriva are beyond caring now.
(09 Apr 2021, 9:49 pm)GNE6312 Wrote: During full allocation Blyth should have 4 left over decksrd between dupes with 1 left over during dupes as 3 Blyth buses are required on dupes for the 308, X7 & X11. Blyth should in theory be recieving 2 deckers from Durham seeing as 7485/87 were only meant to be there when 7609/10 were at Blyth (I think) although not sure weather Durham will send 7485/87, 2 other decksrs or nothing except the pulsars is a mystery. If Blyth don't get anymore deckers they may need to consider putting on or 2 dupes up to contract to someone else.

Thanks for that, had a feeling it would be rather tight with the dupes on especially when Blyth doesn't have the most reliable fleet at the best of times.
(10 Apr 2021, 9:17 am)Storx Wrote: Thanks for that, had a feeling it would be rather tight with the dupes on especially when Blyth doesn't have the most reliable fleet at the best of times.
I don't get why they haven't continued to "dock" the morning / afternoon 306 journeys despite the X6 not running considering that dupes are required for other services.
According to Bustimes 1768 and 1769 have transferred from Blyth to Durham - it must be quite a while since an MPD was on the streets of Durham!
All Blyth new transfers have entered service on the following routes today

1407-X7/X8/X9
1461-X10/X11 (board thst does a round trip on the 308 to start off)
1462-X7/X8/X9
1463-X7/X8/89
1475-2/X16

Although thought to be withdrawn commanders 1401/2 have went to Ashington both on the 35/X21/X22

And 1768/69 have gone to Durham

1768 is on the 49/49A/57/57A (or however it goes)
1769 is on the 56
Why are 1401/1402 allocated to the 35/X21/X22
(12 Apr 2021, 6:05 pm)GNE6312 Wrote: All Blyth new transfers have entered service on the following routes today

1407-X7/X8/X9
1461-X10/X11 (board thst does a round trip on the 308 to start off)
1462-X7/X8/X9
1463-X7/X8/89
1475-2/X16

Although thought to be withdrawn commanders 1401/2 have went to Ashington both on the 35/X21/X22

And 1768/69 have gone to Durham

1768 is on the 49/49A/57/57A (or however it goes)
1769 is on the 56

They're not very Sapphire!
(12 Apr 2021, 6:00 pm)peter Wrote: According to Bustimes 1768 and 1769 have transferred from Blyth to Durham - it must be quite a while since an MPD was on the streets of Durham!




Yes they’re both at Durham


[Image: 51113067775_4e43e0e4ca_c.jpg]Arriva North East 1768 / NK05 GWG by kieron mathews, on Flickr

[Image: 51112207128_74af702ff5_c.jpg]Arriva North East 1769 / NK05 GWJ by kieron mathews, on Flickr







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So it seems the transfers have all been done but does anyone actually know what the reason behind it as the 1/2 are still ran by the minibuses and 1401/1402 aren't withdrawn either, are they actually for the expresses or was it actually about giving Blyth newer buses rather than the 2 ex London deckers.

It seems it's more like.

Blyth
Out: 7609(7485)/7610(7487)/1401/1402/1768/1769
In: 1407/1461/1462/1463/1475/1409?

Durham
Out: 1461/1462/1463/1475/1409?
In: 7485/7487/1768/1769/1579/1580

Ashington
Out: 1407/1579/1580
In: 1401/1402

Only really 2 big bus gain for Blyth rather than the 8 that's needed for the 1/2.
(13 Apr 2021, 11:53 am)Storx Wrote: So it seems the transfers have all been done but does anyone actually know what the reason behind it as the 1/2 are still ran by the minibuses and 1401/1402 aren't withdrawn either, are they actually for the expresses or was it actually about giving Blyth newer buses rather than the 2 ex London deckers.

It seems it's more like.

Blyth
Out: 7609(7485)/7610(7487)/1401/1402/1768/1769   
In: 1407/1461/1462/1463/1475/1409?

Durham
Out: 1461/1462/1463/1475/1409?     
In: 7485/7487/1768/1769/1579/1580

Ashington
Out: 1407/1579/1580   
In: 1401/1402

Only really 2 big bus gain for Blyth rather than the 8 that's needed for the 1/2.

Blyth still have a small "don't send me to Newcastle" rota, which will be minibuses. 

1401/2 only appear to be at Ashington because their engineers can't work out how to get the rest of their buses to stay on the road for more than a week. 1401 was taken off the X20 early on this morning and replaced by an E400. 7445 is spending another day on the X14, having done the first southbound X18 from Belford to Alnwick via Seahouses this morning (balls of steel whoever allocated that), while 7484 is doing its thing on the Sapphire circuit as per.
(13 Apr 2021, 12:07 pm)mb134 Wrote: Blyth still have a small "don't send me to Newcastle" rota, which will be minibuses. 

Does it really matter if its minis on those boards, there's lots of depots which are fine without minis for newer drivers such as all Stagecoach NE depots (Exept Stockton) have no minis with their smallest buses being atleast E200s aswell as Riverside depot with GNE and even arriva NE's own Stockton depot.
(13 Apr 2021, 12:07 pm)mb134 Wrote: Blyth still have a small "don't send me to Newcastle" rota, which will be minibuses. 

1401/2 only appear to be at Ashington because their engineers can't work out how to get the rest of their buses to stay on the road for more than a week. 1401 was taken off the X20 early on this morning and replaced by an E400. 7445 is spending another day on the X14, having done the first southbound X18 from Belford to Alnwick via Seahouses this morning (balls of steel whoever allocated that), while 7484 is doing its thing on the Sapphire circuit as per.

Yeah that's fair answers my question.

Seems like Ashington has borrowed the person who does Blyth's allocations recently they've been all over the place the past few weeks. Noticed there's 2 Enviros including a 64 plate on the 57 today yet like you said 7445 is on the X14.
(13 Apr 2021, 4:08 pm)GNE6312 Wrote: Does it really matter if its minis on those boards, there's lots of depots which are fine without minis for newer drivers such as all Stagecoach NE depots (Exept Stockton) have no minis with their smallest buses being atleast E200s aswell as Riverside depot with GNE and even arriva NE's own Stockton depot.
 It isn't to do with that. Minibus rotas, AFAIK, have a lower pay rate. As soon as a conventional vehicle goes on that driver is then paid full whack.

(13 Apr 2021, 4:39 pm)Storx Wrote: Yeah that's fair answers my question.

Seems like Ashington has borrowed the person who does Blyth's allocations recently they've been all over the place the past few weeks. Noticed there's 2 Enviros including a 64 plate on the 57 today yet like you said 7445 is on the X14.

Think it's more to do with vehicle availability than anything else. 7530 is on there today I think and, given its recent perfomance, that is likely due to it being local work only. Generally if you see an Ashington MAX vehicle on 'local' work (i.e on the 35 if that goes standalone again), it's because it can't be trusted to go further or is running in a new major component. See 7514 and 7555's large 35 stints at various periods as examples.
(13 Apr 2021, 4:46 pm)mb134 Wrote:  It isn't to do with that. Minibus rotas, AFAIK, have a lower pay rate. As soon as a conventional vehicle goes on that driver is then paid full whack

They should just allocate the full size bus regardless may aswell show the Justification of reducing the frequency of the 1/2. If they're still putting solos on they may aseell have had them every 20 mins
There's been a few transfers involving Jesmond recently as well.

2822 has returned to Jesmond and has been working 553 and other services today.
2856 has returned to Darlington after a long stint, possibly on loan.

7425/26 have both returned to Redcar (?) and have seen service on the X93.
(13 Apr 2021, 7:50 pm)N391OTY Wrote: There's been a few transfers involving Jesmond recently as well.

2822 has returned to Jesmond and has been working 553 and other services today.
2856 has returned to Darlington after a long stint, possibly on loan.

7425/26 have both returned to Redcar (?) and have seen service on the X93.

Seems to be a swap between 2822 and 2856 - 2822 had gone down to Darlington at the start of February. Either a loan due to Darlington's shortage or perhaps Arriva have had the common sense to return 2856 with the rest of the batch.