Newcastle congestion and delays
Newcastle congestion and delays
All this palava about GCT missing out bus stops.
I've just witnessed the X45 doing the same, turning around at Central Station thus missing out Newgate Street and Eldon Square.
What about those passengers wishing to board at Wilko's?
(29 May 2021, 12:55 pm)Clifton Hignett III All this palava about GCT missing out bus stops.Needs must when ordered by supervisors. At least those who are able to check Facebook and Twitter are aware of the issues.
I've just witnessed the X45 doing the same, turning around at Central Station thus missing out Newgate Street and Eldon Square.
What about those passengers wishing to board at Wilko's?
(29 May 2021, 12:55 pm)Clifton Hignett III All this palava about GCT missing out bus stops.Needs must when ordered by supervisors. At least those who are able to check Facebook and Twitter are aware of the issues.
I've just witnessed the X45 doing the same, turning around at Central Station thus missing out Newgate Street and Eldon Square.
What about those passengers wishing to board at Wilko's?
(29 May 2021, 12:55 pm)Clifton Hignett III All this palava about GCT missing out bus stops.
I've just witnessed the X45 doing the same, turning around at Central Station thus missing out Newgate Street and Eldon Square.
What about those passengers wishing to board at Wilko's?
(29 May 2021, 12:55 pm)Clifton Hignett III All this palava about GCT missing out bus stops.
I've just witnessed the X45 doing the same, turning around at Central Station thus missing out Newgate Street and Eldon Square.
What about those passengers wishing to board at Wilko's?
(29 May 2021, 12:55 pm)Clifton Hignett III All this palava about GCT missing out bus stops.Actually at one point today services were running out out from Eldon square via the boulevard and coming back in via central station, which is probably what you saw, stops were still served going into Newcastle, only Wilkos was missed on the way out. Better than lines of buses waiting 20-30 mins to get to central.
I've just witnessed the X45 doing the same, turning around at Central Station thus missing out Newgate Street and Eldon Square.
What about those passengers wishing to board at Wilko's?
(29 May 2021, 12:55 pm)Clifton Hignett III All this palava about GCT missing out bus stops.Actually at one point today services were running out out from Eldon square via the boulevard and coming back in via central station, which is probably what you saw, stops were still served going into Newcastle, only Wilkos was missed on the way out. Better than lines of buses waiting 20-30 mins to get to central.
I've just witnessed the X45 doing the same, turning around at Central Station thus missing out Newgate Street and Eldon Square.
What about those passengers wishing to board at Wilko's?
(29 May 2021, 7:52 pm)xpm Actually at one point today services were running out out from Eldon square via the boulevard and coming back in via central station, which is probably what you saw, stops were still served going into Newcastle, only Wilkos was missed on the way out. Better than lines of buses waiting 20-30 mins to get to central.
(29 May 2021, 7:52 pm)xpm Actually at one point today services were running out out from Eldon square via the boulevard and coming back in via central station, which is probably what you saw, stops were still served going into Newcastle, only Wilkos was missed on the way out. Better than lines of buses waiting 20-30 mins to get to central.
(29 May 2021, 8:38 pm)Adrian What were the issues in and out of Newcastle today, out of interest? Town seemed busy in terms of footfall, but traffic didn't seem too bad.Not sure. Bus org showed quite a few buses near Central. Was there any protests or something like that
(29 May 2021, 8:38 pm)Adrian What were the issues in and out of Newcastle today, out of interest? Town seemed busy in terms of footfall, but traffic didn't seem too bad.Not sure. Bus org showed quite a few buses near Central. Was there any protests or something like that
Traffic was bad to the East of Central station. Central Motorway was however quiet. No doubt prob a set of traffic lights going out of sequence and messing up the whole flow of traffic.
i was on ( a very full) 21 on Saturday and at Gateshead civic centre it caught up to a 56 with the destination of " Gateshead". When we reached the metro the passengers off the 56 decanted onto the 21 which even though a few alighted was still really busy. It then looked like the it went around the circle and was head back to the 56 to the Sunderland stand.
(30 May 2021, 7:06 am)Rob44 i was on ( a very full) 21 on Saturday and at Gateshead civic centre it caught up to a 56 with the destination of " Gateshead". When we reached the metro the passengers off the 56 decanted onto the 21 which even though a few alighted was still really busy. It then looked like the it went around the circle and was head back to the 56 to the Sunderland stand.Maybe it was heavy delay and they thought to run it of at Gateshead instead of continuing the journey. Tbh there is plenty buses at Gateshead during the day so more than enough buses to get into town
(30 May 2021, 7:06 am)Rob44 i was on ( a very full) 21 on Saturday and at Gateshead civic centre it caught up to a 56 with the destination of " Gateshead". When we reached the metro the passengers off the 56 decanted onto the 21 which even though a few alighted was still really busy. It then looked like the it went around the circle and was head back to the 56 to the Sunderland stand.Maybe it was heavy delay and they thought to run it of at Gateshead instead of continuing the journey. Tbh there is plenty buses at Gateshead during the day so more than enough buses to get into town
(30 May 2021, 8:13 am)Micheal Aaron Maybe it was heavy delay and they thought to run it of at Gateshead instead of continuing the journey. Tbh there is plenty buses at Gateshead during the day so more than enough buses to get into town
(30 May 2021, 8:13 am)Micheal Aaron Maybe it was heavy delay and they thought to run it of at Gateshead instead of continuing the journey. Tbh there is plenty buses at Gateshead during the day so more than enough buses to get into town
It's not that far of a walk. Plus u have the 58, 27, 57 all stopping at Market place. Plus people just see the first bus to Newcastle. They don't care how far it is. If a bus is running really really late to the point its Arrived at a stop (like Gateshead) where its due on the way back. It would be an easy solution to run it of and turn around so people don't miss a bus or have to wait 20 to 30 minute for the next one
what if your old and walk with a stick and wanted the Grainger market?? that a canny walk!
I know what you mean about the bus running late but why should passenger of the bus which is support to be going to Newcastle have to be removed from one service onto another one just because its running late? maybe if the x21 is running later to Newcastle from Ashington arriva should kick them off at regent centre and tell them to get on the 46 which is running behind... at least they both go to the same destination??
No that's not the point I'm making for all we know people on that 56 we're told to get the closest bus to town. Instead of being left behind
(30 May 2021, 8:13 am)Micheal Aaron Maybe it was heavy delay and they thought to run it of at Gateshead instead of continuing the journey. Tbh there is plenty buses at Gateshead during the day so more than enough buses to get into town
(30 May 2021, 8:13 am)Micheal Aaron Maybe it was heavy delay and they thought to run it of at Gateshead instead of continuing the journey. Tbh there is plenty buses at Gateshead during the day so more than enough buses to get into town
(30 May 2021, 11:48 am)Micheal Aaron No that's not the point I'm making for all we know people on that 56 we're told to get the closest bus to town. Instead of being left behind
(30 May 2021, 11:48 am)Micheal Aaron No that's not the point I'm making for all we know people on that 56 we're told to get the closest bus to town. Instead of being left behind
(30 May 2021, 12:18 pm)Storx It's a horrid system and I know people will disagree because they like pointless branding but it's why branding doesn't work.I see what your saying,and i agree, going back a while here,but ive witnessed it,I was at Haymarket Bus Station one day,and a bus was pulled from the 43 to take over from a 52 that was pretty much a full bus late (30 mins) so that bus was then effectively on time,but the 43 didnt lose out as another bus slot in its place
Arriva generally don't have this problem as they just regulate everything at Jesmond, Blyth and Durham. Its why people never get kicked off at Regent Centre as someone else mentioned.
Instead if everything was just the same brand, if the 58 came into Newcastle 15 minutes late but the 57 was on time (with its 10 minute layover). You sent the 58 out on the 57 and by the time the 58 comes in it's only 5 minutes late for the 57 and can catch back up. *Numbers made up as an example. Or even better you have a bus on standby to slot in to take over later buses. Believe that's the case at both Blyth and Jesmond most the time.
It's a great system and Arriva don't get credit for it usually just people moaning because the X12 bus is on the 5 or whatever.
(30 May 2021, 12:18 pm)Storx It's a horrid system and I know people will disagree because they like pointless branding but it's why branding doesn't work.I see what your saying,and i agree, going back a while here,but ive witnessed it,I was at Haymarket Bus Station one day,and a bus was pulled from the 43 to take over from a 52 that was pretty much a full bus late (30 mins) so that bus was then effectively on time,but the 43 didnt lose out as another bus slot in its place
Arriva generally don't have this problem as they just regulate everything at Jesmond, Blyth and Durham. Its why people never get kicked off at Regent Centre as someone else mentioned.
Instead if everything was just the same brand, if the 58 came into Newcastle 15 minutes late but the 57 was on time (with its 10 minute layover). You sent the 58 out on the 57 and by the time the 58 comes in it's only 5 minutes late for the 57 and can catch back up. *Numbers made up as an example. Or even better you have a bus on standby to slot in to take over later buses. Believe that's the case at both Blyth and Jesmond most the time.
It's a great system and Arriva don't get credit for it usually just people moaning because the X12 bus is on the 5 or whatever.
(30 May 2021, 1:23 pm)V514DFT I see what your saying,and i agree, going back a while here,but ive witnessed it,I was at Haymarket Bus Station one day,and a bus was pulled from the 43 to take over from a 52 that was pretty much a full bus late (30 mins) so that bus was then effectively on time,but the 43 didnt lose out as another bus slot in its place
(30 May 2021, 1:23 pm)V514DFT I see what your saying,and i agree, going back a while here,but ive witnessed it,I was at Haymarket Bus Station one day,and a bus was pulled from the 43 to take over from a 52 that was pretty much a full bus late (30 mins) so that bus was then effectively on time,but the 43 didnt lose out as another bus slot in its place
(30 May 2021, 1:57 pm)Storx It happens all the time at Haymarket like. There's usually a bloke with a clipboard blocking buses coming in at the entrance and directing them to what stand to go into and telling them what they're running. Happens in Blyth aswell it's why usually by the end of day everything is all over the place.Bald bloke by any chance?,see him all the time,i dont know if its just me or do both bus stations seem to struggle with amount of services going into them,obviously not so much during covid,but beforehand
(30 May 2021, 1:57 pm)Storx It happens all the time at Haymarket like. There's usually a bloke with a clipboard blocking buses coming in at the entrance and directing them to what stand to go into and telling them what they're running. Happens in Blyth aswell it's why usually by the end of day everything is all over the place.Bald bloke by any chance?,see him all the time,i dont know if its just me or do both bus stations seem to struggle with amount of services going into them,obviously not so much during covid,but beforehand
Tbh think arriva's way if dealing with delay is the best but with GNE the depots aren't as close to bus stations/high streets which actually have buses terminating at except Consett not to mention Riverside and PM do driver switchover mid route rather than the terminus.
