Fleet Changes

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(15 Jun 2021, 12:53 pm)Storx Wrote: I'm not sure all the Versas are Euro 6. Don't think it was or wasn't confirmed they all got done, I certainly don't believe the 09 plates were ever done but I could be wrong there.


He's talking about it's not fixing anything and when everywhere does Euro 6 you'll get to a stage you can't just shift buses around to prop up an area. Why should Sunderland suffer because Newcastle decided they wanted a Euro 6 zone. What happens if Sunderland decide the same?

How exactly is Sunderland suffering? They’re still getting a return of the same number of buses being transferred out. Personally I think the Versa is a better bus than the streetlite.
Well having seen that the Coaster is getting Streetlites, I think I be using the 22 constantly in the future. Apparently 16/16A is going Double Decker.
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(15 Jun 2021, 1:09 pm)Rapidsnap Wrote: Well having seen that the Coaster is getting Streetlites, I think I be using the 22 constantly in the future. Apparently 16/16A is going Double Decker.

I forgot the Coaster deckers were only Euro 5 - I wonder if the full batch will go to Consett for the 16/16A + spares.

Have you got the full list of changes?
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(15 Jun 2021, 1:09 pm)Rapidsnap Wrote: Well having seen that the Coaster is getting Streetlites, I think I be using the 22 constantly in the future. Apparently 16/16A is going Double Decker.
16/16A are indeed getting double dockers. Rather busy services with a need to dupe especially around college times.
(15 Jun 2021, 1:17 pm)Stanleyone Wrote: 16/16A are indeed getting double dockers. Rather busy services with a need to dupe especially around college times.
What is the PVR of the 16/16A.
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(15 Jun 2021, 12:59 pm)Big O Wrote: How exactly is Sunderland suffering? They’re still getting a return of the same number of buses being transferred out. Personally I think the Versa is a better bus than the streetlite.

Sunderland are doubly suffering for the Newcastle CAZ, GNE and SNE transferring Euro 6 vehicles to the Newcastle area at the expense of Sunderland. Mind, Versas aren't as bad as those awful black smoke belching MAN E200s that have been dumped at the Wheatsheaf.
(15 Jun 2021, 12:59 pm)Big O Wrote: How exactly is Sunderland suffering? They’re still getting a return of the same number of buses being transferred out. Personally I think the Versa is a better bus than the streetlite.

When it comes to emissions I was talking about there. They're just getting the older stock for the sake of LEZ zones in other areas which isn't the point of it. It's just a game of shifting things around. Blyth got hit by it aswell with the DB300 and Hybrid swap awhile back.

If Sunderland decide the same what happens, we start swapping with Consett? Then if Durham decide the same then what, time to cancel services? It's what the OP was about.
Just to summarise, so far:


Black Cat Streetlites to Riverside - Versa to Deptford

6901-05 from Riverside to Percy Main - 5264,5266-68 and 5271 to Riverside

Streetlites from Consett to Percy Main in exchange for the Hybrids


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(15 Jun 2021, 1:23 pm)ASX_Terranova Wrote: What is the PVR of the 16/16A.
5442-5450 (9)
Coaster 1A/1B is getting StreetLites?

No changes for Little Coasters then?

Interesting changes.
Looks like the Coasters is going back to single deckers,not a bad move tbh,even if they are Streetlites
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(15 Jun 2021, 12:53 pm)Storx Wrote: I'm not sure all the Versas are Euro 6. Don't think it was or wasn't confirmed they all got done, I certainly don't believe the 09 plates were ever done but I could be wrong there.

More might of been done since then but believe 10 of the 11 plates and all the 63 plates were upgraded to euro 6
(15 Jun 2021, 1:42 pm)Michael Wrote: Just to summarise, so far:


Black Cat Streetlites to Riverside - Versa to Deptford

6901-05 from Riverside to Percy Main - 5264,5266-68 and 5271 to Riverside

Streetlites to Percy Main in exchange for the Hybrids


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Black Cats Streetlites to Percy Main
2/2A are gaining the Versas off Quaylink - 8332 has been sighted at Saltmeadows in its new Purple/Red livery
Q1/Q2 gaining Streetlites under a new guise with a slightly familiar name from its past…
(15 Jun 2021, 2:43 pm)Kuyoyo Wrote: Black Cats Streetlites to Percy Main ?
2/2A are gaining the Versas off Quaylink - 8332 has been sighted at Saltmeadows in its new Purple/Red livery
Q1/Q2 gaining Streetlites under a new guise with a slightly familiar name from its past…

Oops I missed "Consett" out... Consett Streetlites to Percy Main* - also it was just a summary of what had already been post on here - wasn't confirming anything.


So is the 39 keeping the Streetlites?

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(15 Jun 2021, 2:48 pm)Michael Wrote: Oops I missed "Consett" out... Consett Streetlites to Percy Main* - also it was just a summary of what had already been post on here - wasn't confirming anything.


So is the 39 keeping the Streetlites?

What I’ve put is correct from what I’ve seen mentioned
The Consett ones are likely to go on the Q1/Q2 - since there’s not enough of them to replace the B5Ls on the Coaster like for like
The bulk of the Deptford Streetlites will be off to Percy Main - likelihood is minimum of 14 Streetlites to Percy Main (Coaster is PVR 13 plus at least a spare) and the rest to Riverside as spares for the Q1/Q2 and the 49/49A
(15 Jun 2021, 2:13 pm)JP6004 Wrote: About Euro 6 buses (broken quote)

Yeah that's what I thought it was and they're all on the 28/28A now, not sure what's happening with the 25 though as they still need something.
(15 Jun 2021, 3:06 pm)Storx Wrote: Yeah that's what I thought it was and they're all on the 28/28A now, not sure what's happening with the 25 though as they still need something.
Sure they'll think of something
(15 Jun 2021, 2:56 pm)Kuyoyo Wrote: What I’ve put is correct from what I’ve seen mentioned
The Consett ones are likely to go on the Q1/Q2 - since there’s not enough of them to replace the B5Ls on the Coaster like for like
The bulk of the Deptford Streetlites will be off to Percy Main - likelihood is minimum of 14 Streetlites to Percy Main (Coaster is PVR 13 plus at least a spare) and the rest to Riverside as spares for the Q1/Q2 and the 49/49A

Oops sorry, I thought you were asking a question because of the question mark at the end.. just ignore that!


Thank you for the information.
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(15 Jun 2021, 3:13 pm)Michael Wrote: Oops sorry, I thought you were asking a question because of the question mark at the end.. just ignore that!


Thank you for the information.

That question mark should have been a winking face
Interested to see the rest of the changes as there's still a few things unaccounted for atm namely:
  • The extra 5 Coaster deckers (the 16/16A only need 10 buses max).
  • The 19 allocation as it doesn't really have anything atm and there's not enough Little Coaster Solos anymore and it can't use deckers (poss more Streetlites but seems a waste?)
  • The 12/25/57/74/327 Euro 6 buses
  • Plans for the ex Red Kite Streetlites who still don't have a home - used on the X20 until recently.
  • The X20 Solos also don't have an allocation, possibly pushing out some of the Streetlites?
Don't think any of them have been mentioned.