GNE Riverside Depot Open Day Sunday 25th July

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(24 Jul 2021, 8:10 pm)streetdeckfan Wrote: I know, if only they had a StreetDeck appreciation day I'd be straight there Rolleyes

Maybe I'm just not enough of an 'enthusiast' to be here. I mean, I like buses but I ain't obsessed



I think you’ll find plenty of StreetDecks at the open day tomorrow.


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(24 Jul 2021, 9:39 pm)BusLoverMum Wrote: I'm admittedly a bit of a lightweight as bus enthusiasts go but I was brought up around old vehicles being restored and have always enjoyed bus travel so joined in with my eldest when he started to take an interest.

I don't go onto rail enthusiast forums, though, and tell them how much I'm not interested in their hobby. That would be just plain weird.

I'm not not interested, I'd say I'm probably more interested in the operations side of it than the vehicles themselves.
And, with the vehicles, whilst I have an appreciation for the engineering underneath them, I'm probably more interested in the styling and passenger experience more than anything.

For example, contrary to popular belief, I don't actually hate the Enviro 400s, I just hate GNE's decision to go with low height vehicles on routes that don't require it, impacting on the passenger experience for 'people of height'. Likewise, while I'm a fan of StreetDecks, I'll happily admit their shortcomings
As long as there is a QuayCity or two there. I'll be happy
(24 Jul 2021, 10:36 pm)Dan Wrote: I think you’ll find plenty of StreetDecks at the open day tomorrow.


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Well bugger.

If GNE committed to a proper Sunday service on the X21 I'd have been there, but alas I shall have to just be there in spirit.
Drove past at 0630 on the way to somewhere else, there's a Durham Diamond, various MetroCentre Shuttles, Berry and a Cherry I think
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_f...5361271154&id=1568919676454419

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DO YOU KNOW THESE CHILDREN?

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Today Go North East held an open-day event at their Riverside Depot near Metrocentre in Gateshead. The event was for people to gain an insight into the work of a bus company, the vehicles and the various different types of bus..

However, these buses were for display purposes only, without even asking staff these two youths were jumping on buses, turning switches and trying to start them up along with another male who had curly blonde hair and a grey hoodie, possibly from Teesside.

These two males were asked by Go North East staff to not fiddle with the buttons in the bus cab but proceeded to run to an area where staff weren't in attendance so they could start the bus up, had they made a wrong move or touched a wrong button and a bus rolled forward, this could have had serious consequences if anyone was in the way...

When a member of public intervened, they swore at him before calling him "Fat B*****" and running off when this picture was taken.

These barely look old enough to be out on their own, nevermind trying to drive buses!

Go North East staff went above and beyond to accommodate the event and tried every effort to stop these kids, but they are not your babysitter!
 

Oh dear!
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(25 Jul 2021, 8:41 pm)Andreos1 Wrote: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_f...5361271154&id=1568919676454419

 

Oh dear!

Yes the activities were observed, an attempt was made to start the B5LH. Staff rapidly isolated the batteries on the buses, but it should never have happened.
(25 Jul 2021, 8:41 pm)Andreos1 Wrote: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_f...5361271154&id=1568919676454419

 

Oh dear!

Link isn't working for me.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Always someone to spoil it for the rest of us.

Just to add, prob a good idea to use a chain and padlock to prevent unauthorised access to the vehicles cab.
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(25 Jul 2021, 9:09 pm)Michael Wrote: Link isn't working for me.

Looks like the story has been removed.
Glad I manged to copy the text.
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(25 Jul 2021, 9:23 pm)Rapidsnap Wrote: Always someone to spoil it for the rest of us.

Ultimately regardless of how many times organisers/companies/individuals ask, a small handful of 'enthusiasts' will behave like this anyway. 

The thing is, they're so small-minded that they don't see the damage they do to the enthusiast-organiser/company/individual relationship - or the potential physical damage that they *could* do. All it would take is for there to be an oversight in the planning and something be parked on a slight gradient, and for them to manage to release the parking brake.

It'll get to the point that vehicles have to be attended by staff, in this instance, at all times - at which point I'd imagine there'd be serious questions as to whether the open day is even worth having. Harder again for individual preservationists - leave their bus for lunch, return to find some arrogant little sods on it/find it careering through the parking lot.
About 1pm. Gne staff stopped everyone from going in the cab of the X Lines as it look like they did something to the X85 one
(25 Jul 2021, 11:28 pm)mb134 Wrote: Ultimately regardless of how many times organisers/companies/individuals ask, a small handful of 'enthusiasts' will behave like this anyway. 

The thing is, they're so small-minded that they don't see the damage they do to the enthusiast-organiser/company/individual relationship - or the potential physical damage that they *could* do. All it would take is for there to be an oversight in the planning and something be parked on a slight gradient, and for them to manage to release the parking brake.

It'll get to the point that vehicles have to be attended by staff, in this instance, at all times - at which point I'd imagine there'd be serious questions as to whether the open day is even worth having. Harder again for individual preservationists - leave their bus for lunch, return to find some arrogant little sods on it/find it careering through the parking lot.

They're not 'enthusiasts' - or at least I'd like to think that actual enthusiasts wouldn't try and wreck access to their own hobby.

To be honest, I'd say its not worth GNE or any other company hosting open access days to their depots, unless they've got proper SIA holder security for the event. They shouldn't have to, but you can't afford not to when opening up to the general public nowadays.

Its a shame the article has been taken down. The more people who circulate descriptions and photos, the better.

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(26 Jul 2021, 12:10 am)Adrian Wrote: They're not 'enthusiasts' - or at least I'd like to think that actual enthusiasts wouldn't try and wreck access to their own hobby.

To be honest, I'd say its not worth GNE or any other company hosting open access days to their depots, unless they've got proper SIA holder security for the event. They shouldn't have to, but you can't afford not to when opening up to the general public nowadays.

Its a shame the article has been taken down. The more people who circulate descriptions and photos, the better.

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I managed to open it before it was deleted, and there was a comment from the page saying they had been identified and were asking people to tag their parents so they could see.
The volunteer staff had dumped the air on all the buses upon opening, the notable incident was when one enthusiast started the diamond and had engaged reverse before he was caught in the act. They then went round and isolated everything but there was still a few attempts made to start them.

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(27 Jul 2021, 1:11 am)6049 Wrote: The volunteer staff had dumped the air on all the buses upon opening, the notable incident was when one enthusiast started the diamond and had engaged reverse before he was caught in the act. They then went round and isolated everything but there was still a few attempts made to start them.

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Why did they start the Diamond and engage reverse? How did they get caught in the act? Any ideas about the X84/X85 bus incident mentioned on here previously, something happened to it?

Some people do some rather stupid things.
Dk. But it forced nearby staff members to stop anyone getting in the cab. Tbh it was fun with the destination boards but Jesus the honking got annoying
I'm just surprised they're allowed to have people in the cabs at all, even with supervision.

Imagine explaining to the insurance what happened if someone was to let the handbrake off and it ran into another bus, or the courts if someone let off the handbrake and it ran over a bunch of school children.
I'm pretty sure the person 'supervising' would not be let off lightly in such an incident since I believe legally they'd be seen as in control of the vehicle, the same way that a driving instructor is when teaching a student.
True. I mean. Some people were being decent about it. Random destination and parents taken there kids on. And letting the kids sit in the cab. But u had the Random ones who for some reason just started the bus up.

Think the reason for the cab not being sat in anymore was become I think the X84 one moved a tiny bit which one of the nearby staff noticed cause he seemed to dash over to it. At least that's what I think it was.

I heard the Durham Diamond engine turns on. And the headlights of the X45 but that was it
At the end of the day, had anything serious happened the fault would have been on solely GNE's part imo.

They shouldn't have been able to access the cab unsupervised and they shouldn't have been able to start the vehicle.

Risk assessments should have been made and precautions taken to make sure such a thing couldn't happen in the first place.

Yes, the little shits shouldn't have done what they did, but if GNE had proper measures in place, they wouldn't have been able to


It's all well and good saying they should be able to trust the enthusiast community, but what if a murdering psychopath that knows how to start a bus properly turned up and decided to mow everyone down?