GNE Questions about fleet withdrawals/buses VOR/fleet questions
GNE Questions about fleet withdrawals/buses VOR/fleet questions
(19 Sep 2023, 7:38 pm)Tiger5105 I wonder if 6202 and 6210-13 are due for Consett, along with the ex London B9's already there are the Hybrids replacements?
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(19 Sep 2023, 7:38 pm)Tiger5105 I wonder if 6202 and 6210-13 are due for Consett, along with the ex London B9's already there are the Hybrids replacements?
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(19 Sep 2023, 7:05 pm)Tiger5105 Another 2 Hybrids have disappeared from bustimes. 2 of the 4 yellow xlines 6065 and 6068.
If correct, that's 4 now gone in a week
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(19 Sep 2023, 7:05 pm)Tiger5105 Another 2 Hybrids have disappeared from bustimes. 2 of the 4 yellow xlines 6065 and 6068.
If correct, that's 4 now gone in a week
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My thoughts on this
the streetdecks off the 21 when it goes electric. onto the 10's.with a few spare at riverside
tyne valley tens up to Hownsgill to replace the hybrid's
Numbers match up,6071 to 6085 and 6056 to 6070
Basically the same type of bus for the punters, normals wont care if there hybrid's or straight diesel.
(19 Sep 2023, 9:58 pm)MCN881L My thoughts on thisBut those G2 are already wrecked - facing that with the X5/X15/16/16A which aren't the easiest routes
the streetdecks off the 21 when it goes electric. onto the 10's.with a few spare at riverside
tyne valley tens up to Hownsgill to replace the hybrid's
Numbers match up,6071 to 6085 and 6056 to 6070
Basically the same type of bus for the punters, normals wont care if there hybrid's or straight diesel.
(19 Sep 2023, 9:58 pm)MCN881L My thoughts on thisBut those G2 are already wrecked - facing that with the X5/X15/16/16A which aren't the easiest routes
the streetdecks off the 21 when it goes electric. onto the 10's.with a few spare at riverside
tyne valley tens up to Hownsgill to replace the hybrid's
Numbers match up,6071 to 6085 and 6056 to 6070
Basically the same type of bus for the punters, normals wont care if there hybrid's or straight diesel.
(19 Sep 2023, 7:05 pm)Tiger5105 Another 2 Hybrids have disappeared from bustimes. 2 of the 4 yellow xlines 6065 and 6068.
If correct, that's 4 now gone in a week
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(19 Sep 2023, 7:05 pm)Tiger5105 Another 2 Hybrids have disappeared from bustimes. 2 of the 4 yellow xlines 6065 and 6068.
If correct, that's 4 now gone in a week
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(19 Sep 2023, 10:15 pm)Unber43 But those G2 are already wrecked - facing that with the X5/X15/16/16A which aren't the easiest routes
There are over 150 buses which need to be replaced a order for 20 bus isn't going to even touch the issue.
(19 Sep 2023, 10:15 pm)Unber43 But those G2 are already wrecked - facing that with the X5/X15/16/16A which aren't the easiest routes
There are over 150 buses which need to be replaced a order for 20 bus isn't going to even touch the issue.
(20 Sep 2023, 8:08 pm)MCN881L Totally agreeMost of the buses which were bought over a decade ago on profitable routes still havent had an upgrade and not upgrading them in 2017-2020 has massively hurt them the most.
Vast majority of the fleet is over 10 years old, even the early streetlites have hit 10
guessing the biggest problem now is with GNE loosing money, ther'll be no chance of new buses unless somebody else pays, ie the grants
(20 Sep 2023, 8:08 pm)MCN881L Totally agreeMost of the buses which were bought over a decade ago on profitable routes still havent had an upgrade and not upgrading them in 2017-2020 has massively hurt them the most.
Vast majority of the fleet is over 10 years old, even the early streetlites have hit 10
guessing the biggest problem now is with GNE loosing money, ther'll be no chance of new buses unless somebody else pays, ie the grants
(20 Sep 2023, 8:31 pm)Unber43 Most of the buses which were bought over a decade ago on profitable routes still havent had an upgrade and not upgrading them in 2017-2020 has massively hurt them the most.
And now everything is just ex-london stock not even the interiors have been re-done like they were with the Presidents the first time.
But lets say GNE orders 150 buses they are not going to get here till 2025, which puts a lot of the older buses which were bought between 2010-2013 when the series of massive orders were done nearly 15 years old which already need replacing and all the London stock has 1 year left before its out of its life cycle and anything else after that is hybrids or electric so relying on London anymore is a distant thought now really.
London do have some Citaros which are being replaced and if I was GNE would try and get them for anything replacement, maybe 4 to get rid of the versa and keep the Connections 4, god knows how long 3941-65 have left they seem to be the one which are hanging on under the shadow of ever increasing break downs.
It really is a shambles, because lets face it GNE aren't getting any more buses I would say till 2026/7 are the earliest thats going to have the 16 plates are 12 year old and after that not much came in especially single wise, just the 17 plates and a few deckers, which seem to be getting hammered on the X21/X10.
(20 Sep 2023, 8:31 pm)Unber43 Most of the buses which were bought over a decade ago on profitable routes still havent had an upgrade and not upgrading them in 2017-2020 has massively hurt them the most.
And now everything is just ex-london stock not even the interiors have been re-done like they were with the Presidents the first time.
But lets say GNE orders 150 buses they are not going to get here till 2025, which puts a lot of the older buses which were bought between 2010-2013 when the series of massive orders were done nearly 15 years old which already need replacing and all the London stock has 1 year left before its out of its life cycle and anything else after that is hybrids or electric so relying on London anymore is a distant thought now really.
London do have some Citaros which are being replaced and if I was GNE would try and get them for anything replacement, maybe 4 to get rid of the versa and keep the Connections 4, god knows how long 3941-65 have left they seem to be the one which are hanging on under the shadow of ever increasing break downs.
It really is a shambles, because lets face it GNE aren't getting any more buses I would say till 2026/7 are the earliest thats going to have the 16 plates are 12 year old and after that not much came in especially single wise, just the 17 plates and a few deckers, which seem to be getting hammered on the X21/X10.
(21 Sep 2023, 5:05 pm)Unber43 So what are GNE doing to do, aging fleet, no money, just run the buses into the ground so far theyve being doing a great job at that
(21 Sep 2023, 5:05 pm)Unber43 So what are GNE doing to do, aging fleet, no money, just run the buses into the ground so far theyve being doing a great job at that
(21 Sep 2023, 5:13 pm)streetdeckfan See Arriva
(21 Sep 2023, 5:13 pm)streetdeckfan See Arriva
(21 Sep 2023, 5:39 pm)Shrek Arriva is slightly different in that they are potentially about to be sold and therefore the current owners won't be making any investment as they won't see the return on it. If the sale happens, the new owners should be aware of the amount of investment required and be willing to make it as otherwise they'd not do the transaction in the first place.
(21 Sep 2023, 5:39 pm)Shrek Arriva is slightly different in that they are potentially about to be sold and therefore the current owners won't be making any investment as they won't see the return on it. If the sale happens, the new owners should be aware of the amount of investment required and be willing to make it as otherwise they'd not do the transaction in the first place.
(27 Sep 2023, 12:26 pm)NL62WVW Now back at Riverside
(27 Sep 2023, 12:26 pm)NL62WVW Now back at Riverside
