North East BSIP: £804 Million Pound Plan For North East Buses
#81
RE: North East BSIP: £804 Million Pound Plan For North East Buses
Having a quick skim through there - honestly the entire thing seems pie in the sky. 

The "Superbus" thing is an absolute minefield - let's be honest with current Sunday trading laws nobody needs a bus every 7 mins on a Sunday (given they have a category for this, I'm assuming they feel like multiple routes would fall into it). The resultant night network is baffling as well, and very Newcastle centric as per - the Durham to Bishop 6 is allegedly a Superbus route somewhere in the document yet doesn't get a nightbus?

Some of the "ITS"/bus priority things will simply never happen, or at least not in the scale they're talking about. Some of the places/amounts of money are bizarre too, whats the £255k for at Morpeth?

While I appreciate buses in the NE need to improve, and things like night buses and bus priority are part of that, this "plan" seems like over promise and under deliver by quite a large amount. 

Had a bit of a chuckle at "However, from a customer perspective, the complex range of brands, different fare offers, and complex timetables have significant limitations and are not tied together through a unified bus network brand." in a paper fronted by the MD of a company introducing new brands like they're going out of fashion...

#82
RE: North East BSIP: £804 Million Pound Plan For North East Buses
(24 Nov 2021, 7:53 pm)mb134 Wrote: Having a quick skim through there - honestly the entire thing seems pie in the sky. 

The "Superbus" thing is an absolute minefield - let's be honest with current Sunday trading laws nobody needs a bus every 7 mins on a Sunday (given they have a category for this, I'm assuming they feel like multiple routes would fall into it). The resultant night network is baffling as well, and very Newcastle centric as per - the Durham to Bishop 6 is allegedly a Superbus route somewhere in the document yet doesn't get a nightbus?

Some of the "ITS"/bus priority things will simply never happen, or at least not in the scale they're talking about. Some of the places/amounts of money are bizarre too, whats the £255k for at Morpeth?

While I appreciate buses in the NE need to improve, and things like night buses and bus priority are part of that, this "plan" seems like over promise and under deliver by quite a large amount. 

Had a bit of a chuckle at "However, from a customer perspective, the complex range of brands, different fare offers, and complex timetables have significant limitations and are not tied together through a unified bus network brand." in a paper fronted by the MD of a company introducing new brands like they're going out of fashion...

I laughed at that too, GNEs myriad of fares and brands are the probably the most complex out of all

It’s political posturing at its best. It’s focusing on far too many nice to haves and not enough functional stuff like basic integrated ticketing across the region.

absolutely nothing will come of it and Labour will whinge about Tory cuts and we’ll be in 10 years behind where we should be. The exact same thing happened with Superroutes and Orpheus with Nexus.
Wistfully stuck in the 90s

#83
RE: North East BSIP: £804 Million Pound Plan For North East Buses
I am so confused at these Superbus, Greenbus, redbus. Can somoene dumb it down please

#84
RE: North East BSIP: £804 Million Pound Plan For North East Buses
(24 Nov 2021, 9:55 pm)Keeiajs Wrote: I am so confused at these Superbus, Greenbus, redbus. Can somoene dumb it down please

Superbus is from the planet krypton and his arch enemies greenbus and redbus are out to destroy him.

They run just a couple of minutes ahead of Superbus along main corridors and use their powers to turn traffic lights red.
Superbus has a weakness when it comes to loose change and kryptonite.
'Illegitimis non carborundum'

#85
RE: North East BSIP: £804 Million Pound Plan For North East Buses
(24 Nov 2021, 11:20 pm)Andreos1 Wrote: Superbus is from the planet krypton and his arch enemies greenbus and redbus are out to destroy him.

They run just a couple of minutes ahead of Superbus along main corridors and use their powers to turn traffic lights red.
Superbus has a weakness when it comes to loose change and kryptonite.

Redbus is a rapper and is most noted for his collaborations with fellow rapper, Method Bus.

Both currently star in Power - Book 2: Ghost.