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Keeiajs

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10 Nov 2021, 5:51 pm #1
https://twitter.com/Bowes96Callum/status...81024?s=20, I do wonder what streetlites they will get, maybe the 60's. There is 8 of them. I believe the PVR is 12. Which means they will need 4 more. 

Idk because the country ranger/prince bishops buses make no sense. So maybe the 60's, and 4 high back 15' plate's.
Keeiajs
10 Nov 2021, 5:51 pm #1

https://twitter.com/Bowes96Callum/status...81024?s=20, I do wonder what streetlites they will get, maybe the 60's. There is 8 of them. I believe the PVR is 12. Which means they will need 4 more. 

Idk because the country ranger/prince bishops buses make no sense. So maybe the 60's, and 4 high back 15' plate's.

10 Nov 2021, 6:30 pm #2
(10 Nov 2021, 5:51 pm)Keeiajs https://twitter.com/Bowes96Callum/status...81024?s=20, I do wonder what streetlites they will get, maybe the 60's. There is 8 of them. I believe the PVR is 12. Which means they will need 4 more. 

Idk because the country ranger/prince bishops buses make no sense. So maybe the 60's, and 4 high back 15' plate's.
Durham County Council paid for Euro 6, so I doubt they'll accept that
54APhotography
10 Nov 2021, 6:30 pm #2

(10 Nov 2021, 5:51 pm)Keeiajs https://twitter.com/Bowes96Callum/status...81024?s=20, I do wonder what streetlites they will get, maybe the 60's. There is 8 of them. I believe the PVR is 12. Which means they will need 4 more. 

Idk because the country ranger/prince bishops buses make no sense. So maybe the 60's, and 4 high back 15' plate's.
Durham County Council paid for Euro 6, so I doubt they'll accept that

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10 Nov 2021, 6:40 pm #3
(10 Nov 2021, 6:30 pm)54APhotography Durham County Council paid for Euro 6, so I doubt they'll accept that
But what else do they have that is Euro 6. 
Does anyone know how much a Euro 6 converstion actually is?
Keeiajs
10 Nov 2021, 6:40 pm #3

(10 Nov 2021, 6:30 pm)54APhotography Durham County Council paid for Euro 6, so I doubt they'll accept that
But what else do they have that is Euro 6. 
Does anyone know how much a Euro 6 converstion actually is?

10 Nov 2021, 6:46 pm #4
That's for GNE to cogetate, the subject of replacement has come up several times, and each time the reminder of Durham County funding for the OmniCity conversions arises...
54APhotography
10 Nov 2021, 6:46 pm #4

That's for GNE to cogetate, the subject of replacement has come up several times, and each time the reminder of Durham County funding for the OmniCity conversions arises...

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10 Nov 2021, 6:52 pm #5
(10 Nov 2021, 6:30 pm)54APhotography Durham County Council paid for Euro 6, so I doubt they'll accept that
Was it not South Tyneside Council who paid for thr Euro 6, as only 1 service serves County Durham but both services serve South Tyneside
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10 Nov 2021, 6:52 pm #5

(10 Nov 2021, 6:30 pm)54APhotography Durham County Council paid for Euro 6, so I doubt they'll accept that
Was it not South Tyneside Council who paid for thr Euro 6, as only 1 service serves County Durham but both services serve South Tyneside

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10 Nov 2021, 6:53 pm #6
(10 Nov 2021, 6:46 pm)54APhotography That's for GNE to cogetate, the subject of replacement has come up several times, and each time the reminder of Durham County funding for the OmniCity conversions arises...
Least they not bound to the same terms of stupidity as gateshead and Sunderland, whereby the operator had to keep the vehicles on Gateshead/sunderland route for 5yrs....least they can replace the omnis with younger euro 6 vehicles and not be penalised for it
JP6004
10 Nov 2021, 6:53 pm #6

(10 Nov 2021, 6:46 pm)54APhotography That's for GNE to cogetate, the subject of replacement has come up several times, and each time the reminder of Durham County funding for the OmniCity conversions arises...
Least they not bound to the same terms of stupidity as gateshead and Sunderland, whereby the operator had to keep the vehicles on Gateshead/sunderland route for 5yrs....least they can replace the omnis with younger euro 6 vehicles and not be penalised for it

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10 Nov 2021, 6:54 pm #7
(10 Nov 2021, 5:51 pm)Keeiajs https://twitter.com/Bowes96Callum/status...81024?s=20, I do wonder what streetlites they will get, maybe the 60's. There is 8 of them. I believe the PVR is 12. Which means they will need 4 more. 

Idk because the country ranger/prince bishops buses make no sense. So maybe the 60's, and 4 high back 15' plate's.
I couldn't see on the Twitter feed where it said they were to be replaced with streetlites 
. Be surprised if they do that especially with thr 50 being as busy as it gets.  The 26 is also busier compared to when 50 interworked with the 5
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10 Nov 2021, 6:54 pm #7

(10 Nov 2021, 5:51 pm)Keeiajs https://twitter.com/Bowes96Callum/status...81024?s=20, I do wonder what streetlites they will get, maybe the 60's. There is 8 of them. I believe the PVR is 12. Which means they will need 4 more. 

Idk because the country ranger/prince bishops buses make no sense. So maybe the 60's, and 4 high back 15' plate's.
I couldn't see on the Twitter feed where it said they were to be replaced with streetlites 
. Be surprised if they do that especially with thr 50 being as busy as it gets.  The 26 is also busier compared to when 50 interworked with the 5

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10 Nov 2021, 6:57 pm #8
But what streetlites will they use? My first thoughts are the 15' plates or drifters for obvious reasons.
Keeiajs
10 Nov 2021, 6:57 pm #8

But what streetlites will they use? My first thoughts are the 15' plates or drifters for obvious reasons.

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10 Nov 2021, 6:58 pm #9
(10 Nov 2021, 6:52 pm)ifm001 Was it not South Tyneside Council who paid for thr Euro 6, as only 1 service serves County Durham but both services serve South Tyneside

This is my understanding too.

Is it a condition of the funding that any vehicles used to replace those that have benefited must be of the same Euro rating?

I know there is the potentially a note to say that the vehicles must operate mainly in the council area for however long, but not sure if they can really control the company's fleet plans long term once this period has ended.
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10 Nov 2021, 6:58 pm #9

(10 Nov 2021, 6:52 pm)ifm001 Was it not South Tyneside Council who paid for thr Euro 6, as only 1 service serves County Durham but both services serve South Tyneside

This is my understanding too.

Is it a condition of the funding that any vehicles used to replace those that have benefited must be of the same Euro rating?

I know there is the potentially a note to say that the vehicles must operate mainly in the council area for however long, but not sure if they can really control the company's fleet plans long term once this period has ended.

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10 Nov 2021, 6:59 pm #10
(10 Nov 2021, 6:58 pm)S813 FVK This is my understanding too.

Is it a condition of the funding that any vehicles used to replace those that have benefited must be of the same Euro rating?

I know there is the potentially a note to say that the vehicles must operate mainly in the council area for however long, but not sure if they can really control the company's fleet plans long term once this period has ended.
Didn't get done in 2019, so that will be around 3 yrs. And they could be sold to A-line, or just act as Spares or Deptford/Washington/Peterlee
Keeiajs
10 Nov 2021, 6:59 pm #10

(10 Nov 2021, 6:58 pm)S813 FVK This is my understanding too.

Is it a condition of the funding that any vehicles used to replace those that have benefited must be of the same Euro rating?

I know there is the potentially a note to say that the vehicles must operate mainly in the council area for however long, but not sure if they can really control the company's fleet plans long term once this period has ended.
Didn't get done in 2019, so that will be around 3 yrs. And they could be sold to A-line, or just act as Spares or Deptford/Washington/Peterlee

10 Nov 2021, 7:10 pm #11
(10 Nov 2021, 6:40 pm)Keeiajs But what else do they have that is Euro 6. 
Does anyone know how much a Euro 6 converstion actually is?

After a little Googling it looks South Tyneside Council were given £133,000 to improve 8 of GNE and SC's buses, so that's about £17k each.
Not sure if that's the full cost or just STC's contribution towards it though
streetdeckfan
10 Nov 2021, 7:10 pm #11

(10 Nov 2021, 6:40 pm)Keeiajs But what else do they have that is Euro 6. 
Does anyone know how much a Euro 6 converstion actually is?

After a little Googling it looks South Tyneside Council were given £133,000 to improve 8 of GNE and SC's buses, so that's about £17k each.
Not sure if that's the full cost or just STC's contribution towards it though

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10 Nov 2021, 7:15 pm #12
(10 Nov 2021, 7:10 pm)streetdeckfan After a little Googling it looks South Tyneside Council were given £133,000 to improve 8 of GNE and SC's buses, so that's about £17k each.
Not sure if that's the full cost or just STC's contribution towards it though
Bloody Hell, I didn't realise it was that expensive, and I believe STC just contribute.

But the PVR for the 50/26 is 12 or 14, so GNE did pay for a few themselves it seems.
Keeiajs
10 Nov 2021, 7:15 pm #12

(10 Nov 2021, 7:10 pm)streetdeckfan After a little Googling it looks South Tyneside Council were given £133,000 to improve 8 of GNE and SC's buses, so that's about £17k each.
Not sure if that's the full cost or just STC's contribution towards it though
Bloody Hell, I didn't realise it was that expensive, and I believe STC just contribute.

But the PVR for the 50/26 is 12 or 14, so GNE did pay for a few themselves it seems.

10 Nov 2021, 7:18 pm #13
(10 Nov 2021, 7:15 pm)Keeiajs Bloody Hell, I didn't realise it was that expensive, and I believe STC just contribute.

But the PVR for the 50/26 is 12 or 14, so GNE did pay for a few themselves it seems.

There were more buses than that, but it didn't specify the cost for the full batch, just that it was £133k for the extra 8
streetdeckfan
10 Nov 2021, 7:18 pm #13

(10 Nov 2021, 7:15 pm)Keeiajs Bloody Hell, I didn't realise it was that expensive, and I believe STC just contribute.

But the PVR for the 50/26 is 12 or 14, so GNE did pay for a few themselves it seems.

There were more buses than that, but it didn't specify the cost for the full batch, just that it was £133k for the extra 8

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10 Nov 2021, 7:19 pm #14
(10 Nov 2021, 7:18 pm)streetdeckfan There were more buses than that, but it didn't specify the cost for the full batch, just that it was £133k for the extra 8
it is still quite expensive, i can see why independent will struggle
Keeiajs
10 Nov 2021, 7:19 pm #14

(10 Nov 2021, 7:18 pm)streetdeckfan There were more buses than that, but it didn't specify the cost for the full batch, just that it was £133k for the extra 8
it is still quite expensive, i can see why independent will struggle

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10 Nov 2021, 8:24 pm #15
(10 Nov 2021, 6:57 pm)Keeiajs But what streetlites will they use? My first thoughts are the 15' plates or drifters for obvious reasons.

In theory the 9 electrics entering service at Riverside should release some Euro 6 Streetlites without a role. After they're in service on paper there's 18 buses for the 6/12/12A plus 5438 - 5441 I'm sure could be nabbed if needed (depending on who done the mods).

There's enough around if needed. The 15 plates are for the 49/49A and other Gateshead locals.
Storx
10 Nov 2021, 8:24 pm #15

(10 Nov 2021, 6:57 pm)Keeiajs But what streetlites will they use? My first thoughts are the 15' plates or drifters for obvious reasons.

In theory the 9 electrics entering service at Riverside should release some Euro 6 Streetlites without a role. After they're in service on paper there's 18 buses for the 6/12/12A plus 5438 - 5441 I'm sure could be nabbed if needed (depending on who done the mods).

There's enough around if needed. The 15 plates are for the 49/49A and other Gateshead locals.

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10 Nov 2021, 8:43 pm #16
(10 Nov 2021, 8:24 pm)Storx In theory the 9 electrics entering service at Riverside should release some Euro 6 Streetlites without a role. After they're in service on paper there's 18 buses for the 6/12/12A plus 5438 - 5441 I'm sure could be nabbed if needed (depending on who done the mods).

There's enough around if needed. The 15 plates are for the 49/49A and other Gateshead locals.
Those electric buses are to be put on the 57 (for some reason) and they have MB's.
Keeiajs
10 Nov 2021, 8:43 pm #16

(10 Nov 2021, 8:24 pm)Storx In theory the 9 electrics entering service at Riverside should release some Euro 6 Streetlites without a role. After they're in service on paper there's 18 buses for the 6/12/12A plus 5438 - 5441 I'm sure could be nabbed if needed (depending on who done the mods).

There's enough around if needed. The 15 plates are for the 49/49A and other Gateshead locals.
Those electric buses are to be put on the 57 (for some reason) and they have MB's.

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10 Nov 2021, 8:55 pm #17
(10 Nov 2021, 6:53 pm)JP6004 Least they not bound to the same terms of stupidity as gateshead and Sunderland, whereby the operator had to keep the vehicles on Gateshead/sunderland route for 5yrs....least they can replace the omnis with younger euro 6 vehicles and not be penalised for it

To be fair, they knew exactly what they were getting in to when they signed the agreement for the mods. 
Quite why they did it and why they thought that it was a good idea, is another matter.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
10 Nov 2021, 8:55 pm #17

(10 Nov 2021, 6:53 pm)JP6004 Least they not bound to the same terms of stupidity as gateshead and Sunderland, whereby the operator had to keep the vehicles on Gateshead/sunderland route for 5yrs....least they can replace the omnis with younger euro 6 vehicles and not be penalised for it

To be fair, they knew exactly what they were getting in to when they signed the agreement for the mods. 
Quite why they did it and why they thought that it was a good idea, is another matter.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

10 Nov 2021, 9:19 pm #18
(10 Nov 2021, 6:52 pm)ifm001 Was it not South Tyneside Council who paid for thr Euro 6, as only 1 service serves County Durham but both services serve South Tyneside
Was South Tyneside, I do tend to recognise Counties rather than unitary authorities! I always use Co. Durham in address lines!
54APhotography
10 Nov 2021, 9:19 pm #18

(10 Nov 2021, 6:52 pm)ifm001 Was it not South Tyneside Council who paid for thr Euro 6, as only 1 service serves County Durham but both services serve South Tyneside
Was South Tyneside, I do tend to recognise Counties rather than unitary authorities! I always use Co. Durham in address lines!

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10 Nov 2021, 9:25 pm #19
(10 Nov 2021, 8:43 pm)Keeiajs Those electric buses are to be put on the 57 (for some reason) and they have MB's.

The Mercedes are (or will be when the 15 plates move across from Deptford) withdrawn. They we're swapped pretty much with them going on the 35/55 - not sure which hence the ones not needed are all up for sale.
Storx
10 Nov 2021, 9:25 pm #19

(10 Nov 2021, 8:43 pm)Keeiajs Those electric buses are to be put on the 57 (for some reason) and they have MB's.

The Mercedes are (or will be when the 15 plates move across from Deptford) withdrawn. They we're swapped pretty much with them going on the 35/55 - not sure which hence the ones not needed are all up for sale.

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10 Nov 2021, 9:31 pm #20
(10 Nov 2021, 9:25 pm)Storx The Mercedes are (or will be when the 15 plates move across from Deptford) withdrawn. They we're swapped pretty much with them going on the 35/55 - not sure which hence the ones not needed are all up for sale.
Yeah, so they will replace with the 15' plate for 49/A/B/(C?). I am still struggling to find EUro 6 buses which they have spare for the 50/26
Keeiajs
10 Nov 2021, 9:31 pm #20

(10 Nov 2021, 9:25 pm)Storx The Mercedes are (or will be when the 15 plates move across from Deptford) withdrawn. They we're swapped pretty much with them going on the 35/55 - not sure which hence the ones not needed are all up for sale.
Yeah, so they will replace with the 15' plate for 49/A/B/(C?). I am still struggling to find EUro 6 buses which they have spare for the 50/26

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