(23 Dec 2021, 7:34 pm)Keeiajs Xlines brand is dropping like flies -
Any guesses of what is next, mine is firmly with the X5/X15
(23 Dec 2021, 7:49 pm)V514DFT Genuinely nervous about any other changes that may happen,he only mentioned 2 services
(23 Dec 2021, 7:34 pm)Keeiajs Xlines brand is dropping like flies -
Any guesses of what is next, mine is firmly with the X5/X15
(23 Dec 2021, 7:49 pm)V514DFT Genuinely nervous about any other changes that may happen,he only mentioned 2 services
(23 Dec 2021, 7:49 pm)V514DFT Genuinely nervous about any other changes that may happen,he only mentioned 2 servicesIf I was in Peterlee I would be worried.
(23 Dec 2021, 7:49 pm)streetdeckfan Not really, X84/X85 is the first X-lines brand to go completely, and only the second Xlines 'corridor' to go, after the X6/X7.I think West Aukland one will. However I think 21 to Brandon should either be every hour, or a extra service to Durham per hour from NCL
I think we can all agree that the X47 should never have existed in the first place, and was probably only in the Xlines brand for operational reasons.
The X9 was essentially just a variation of the X10, and is just being consolidated into the X10 full time
I wonder if the X21 extension to West Auckland, and the 21 extension to Brandon will stick around. They seem like easy targets.
Honestly, if they cut the X21 back to Bishop, that's me done
(23 Dec 2021, 7:49 pm)V514DFT Genuinely nervous about any other changes that may happen,he only mentioned 2 servicesIf I was in Peterlee I would be worried.
(23 Dec 2021, 7:49 pm)streetdeckfan Not really, X84/X85 is the first X-lines brand to go completely, and only the second Xlines 'corridor' to go, after the X6/X7.I think West Aukland one will. However I think 21 to Brandon should either be every hour, or a extra service to Durham per hour from NCL
I think we can all agree that the X47 should never have existed in the first place, and was probably only in the Xlines brand for operational reasons.
The X9 was essentially just a variation of the X10, and is just being consolidated into the X10 full time
I wonder if the X21 extension to West Auckland, and the 21 extension to Brandon will stick around. They seem like easy targets.
Honestly, if they cut the X21 back to Bishop, that's me done
(23 Dec 2021, 7:49 pm)streetdeckfan Not really, X84/X85 is the first X-lines brand to go completely, and only the second Xlines 'corridor' to go, after the X6/X7.
I think we can all agree that the X47 should never have existed in the first place, and was probably only in the Xlines brand for operational reasons.
The X9 was essentially just a variation of the X10, and is just being consolidated into the X10 full time
(23 Dec 2021, 7:49 pm)streetdeckfan Not really, X84/X85 is the first X-lines brand to go completely, and only the second Xlines 'corridor' to go, after the X6/X7.
I think we can all agree that the X47 should never have existed in the first place, and was probably only in the Xlines brand for operational reasons.
The X9 was essentially just a variation of the X10, and is just being consolidated into the X10 full time
(23 Dec 2021, 8:06 pm)Storx Something says that the X84/X85 isn't all purely numbers based and is to do with the Bus Partnership. At the end of the day it was about removing duplication and buses doing the same route and the 685/X85 done exactly that, they even had the same number for Arriva's old express one per day journey.
If one bus had to continue along there it was always going to be the 685. The number to 684 and 'timing with other operators' suggests it's more than outright scrapping. Maybe we might see GNE tickets accepted on the 685 and Arriva/Stagecoach tickets on the 684. It would be a better service for everyone. The 685 sticks out like a sore thumb anyway so it's not like GNE are giving money away to Arriva / Stagecoach in the Hexham area.
There's other corridors where that could work aswell.
X12/X21 and 306/308/309/310/311 being the two most noticeable.
(23 Dec 2021, 8:06 pm)Storx Something says that the X84/X85 isn't all purely numbers based and is to do with the Bus Partnership. At the end of the day it was about removing duplication and buses doing the same route and the 685/X85 done exactly that, they even had the same number for Arriva's old express one per day journey.
If one bus had to continue along there it was always going to be the 685. The number to 684 and 'timing with other operators' suggests it's more than outright scrapping. Maybe we might see GNE tickets accepted on the 685 and Arriva/Stagecoach tickets on the 684. It would be a better service for everyone. The 685 sticks out like a sore thumb anyway so it's not like GNE are giving money away to Arriva / Stagecoach in the Hexham area.
There's other corridors where that could work aswell.
X12/X21 and 306/308/309/310/311 being the two most noticeable.
(23 Dec 2021, 7:49 pm)streetdeckfan Not really, X84/X85 is the first X-lines brand to go completely, and only the second Xlines 'corridor' to go, after the X6/X7.
I think we can all agree that the X47 should never have existed in the first place, and was probably only in the Xlines brand for operational reasons.
The X9 was essentially just a variation of the X10, and is just being consolidated into the X10 full time
I wonder if the X21 extension to West Auckland, and the 21 extension to Brandon will stick around. They seem like easy targets.
Honestly, if they cut the X21 back to Bishop, that's me done
(23 Dec 2021, 7:49 pm)streetdeckfan Not really, X84/X85 is the first X-lines brand to go completely, and only the second Xlines 'corridor' to go, after the X6/X7.
I think we can all agree that the X47 should never have existed in the first place, and was probably only in the Xlines brand for operational reasons.
The X9 was essentially just a variation of the X10, and is just being consolidated into the X10 full time
I wonder if the X21 extension to West Auckland, and the 21 extension to Brandon will stick around. They seem like easy targets.
Honestly, if they cut the X21 back to Bishop, that's me done
(23 Dec 2021, 8:15 pm)streetdeckfan I'd also add the X21/6 as well. If GNE either cant be arsed, or can't afford to run the X21 to West Auckland on evenings or Sundays, at least work with Arriva to allow passengers to use either service.
It was honestly so handy being able to use either back when there was mutual ticket acceptance on common routes!
(23 Dec 2021, 8:15 pm)streetdeckfan I'd also add the X21/6 as well. If GNE either cant be arsed, or can't afford to run the X21 to West Auckland on evenings or Sundays, at least work with Arriva to allow passengers to use either service.
It was honestly so handy being able to use either back when there was mutual ticket acceptance on common routes!
(23 Dec 2021, 8:06 pm)Storx Something says that the X84/X85 isn't all purely numbers based and is to do with the Bus Partnership. At the end of the day it was about removing duplication and buses doing the same route and the 685/X85 done exactly that, they even had the same number for Arriva's old express one per day journey.
If one bus had to continue along there it was always going to be the 685. The number to 684 and 'timing with other operators' suggests it's more than outright scrapping. Maybe we might see GNE tickets accepted on the 685 and Arriva/Stagecoach tickets on the 684. It would be a better service for everyone. The 685 sticks out like a sore thumb anyway so it's not like GNE are giving money away to Arriva / Stagecoach in the Hexham area.
There's other corridors where that could work aswell.
X12/X21 and 306/308/309/310/311 being the two most noticeable.
(23 Dec 2021, 8:06 pm)Storx Something says that the X84/X85 isn't all purely numbers based and is to do with the Bus Partnership. At the end of the day it was about removing duplication and buses doing the same route and the 685/X85 done exactly that, they even had the same number for Arriva's old express one per day journey.
If one bus had to continue along there it was always going to be the 685. The number to 684 and 'timing with other operators' suggests it's more than outright scrapping. Maybe we might see GNE tickets accepted on the 685 and Arriva/Stagecoach tickets on the 684. It would be a better service for everyone. The 685 sticks out like a sore thumb anyway so it's not like GNE are giving money away to Arriva / Stagecoach in the Hexham area.
There's other corridors where that could work aswell.
X12/X21 and 306/308/309/310/311 being the two most noticeable.
(23 Dec 2021, 8:15 pm)streetdeckfan I'd also add the X21/6 as well. If GNE either cant be arsed, or can't afford to run the X21 to West Auckland on evenings or Sundays, at least work with Arriva to allow passengers to use either service.Isn't the Network One All Zone Plus avaliable for exactly this scenario?
It was honestly so handy being able to use either back when there was mutual ticket acceptance on common routes!
(23 Dec 2021, 8:15 pm)streetdeckfan I'd also add the X21/6 as well. If GNE either cant be arsed, or can't afford to run the X21 to West Auckland on evenings or Sundays, at least work with Arriva to allow passengers to use either service.Isn't the Network One All Zone Plus avaliable for exactly this scenario?
It was honestly so handy being able to use either back when there was mutual ticket acceptance on common routes!
(23 Dec 2021, 9:36 pm)DeltaMan Isn't the Network One All Zone Plus avaliable for exactly this scenario?
(23 Dec 2021, 9:36 pm)DeltaMan Isn't the Network One All Zone Plus avaliable for exactly this scenario?
I’m not sure what to make of that update to a point,
A growing in popularity railway service impacting the X84/5….growing In popularity since erm…1834?
There’s an elephant in the room aspect to this. The govt will not and can’t afford to fund buses, the pandemic has made buses even less popular than before which is an achievement and all that money spent on Ray Stenning PowerPoint templates was a nice try but erm…yeah nobody likes buses. It shows all the money wasted on paint jobs as the union call them and fanfare of printed timetables (popular with old people, roger french and bus enthusiasts only) mean absolutely nothing
I hate to sound like our dear Andreos…well I don’t…but at what point do you realise the problem is you
More to come here I think. Further cuts, more money to DRT schemes and those impacted don’t and won’t vote tory. I’d be rts worried if I relied on public transport in a less desirable connected area or worked at go ahead but I’d be thrilled to be a middle manager or a shareholder…or ray stenning, rebrands ahoy!
To end a positive…of sorts. It’s a real shame Martijn joined GNE at a time of crisis and you wonder what he could have done with the resources that Huntley and Carr had, both massive massive failures.
(23 Dec 2021, 10:50 pm)Ambassador I’m not sure what to make of that update to a point,
A growing in popularity railway service impacting the X84/5….growing In popularity since erm…1834?
There’s an elephant in the room aspect to this. The govt will not and can’t afford to fund buses, the pandemic has made buses even less popular than before which is an achievement and all that money spent on Ray Stenning PowerPoint templates was a nice try but erm…yeah nobody likes buses. It shows all the money wasted on paint jobs as the union call them and fanfare of printed timetables (popular with old people, roger french and bus enthusiasts only) mean absolutely nothing
I hate to sound like our dear Andreos…well I don’t…but at what point do you realise the problem is you
More to come here I think. Further cuts, more money to DRT schemes and those impacted don’t and won’t vote tory. I’d be rts worried if I relied on public transport in a less desirable connected area or worked at go ahead but I’d be thrilled to be a middle manager or a shareholder…or ray stenning, rebrands ahoy!
To end a positive…of sorts. It’s a real shame Martijn joined GNE at a time of crisis and you wonder what he could have done with the resources that Huntley and Carr had, both massive massive failures.
(23 Dec 2021, 10:50 pm)Ambassador I’m not sure what to make of that update to a point,
A growing in popularity railway service impacting the X84/5….growing In popularity since erm…1834?
There’s an elephant in the room aspect to this. The govt will not and can’t afford to fund buses, the pandemic has made buses even less popular than before which is an achievement and all that money spent on Ray Stenning PowerPoint templates was a nice try but erm…yeah nobody likes buses. It shows all the money wasted on paint jobs as the union call them and fanfare of printed timetables (popular with old people, roger french and bus enthusiasts only) mean absolutely nothing
I hate to sound like our dear Andreos…well I don’t…but at what point do you realise the problem is you
More to come here I think. Further cuts, more money to DRT schemes and those impacted don’t and won’t vote tory. I’d be rts worried if I relied on public transport in a less desirable connected area or worked at go ahead but I’d be thrilled to be a middle manager or a shareholder…or ray stenning, rebrands ahoy!
To end a positive…of sorts. It’s a real shame Martijn joined GNE at a time of crisis and you wonder what he could have done with the resources that Huntley and Carr had, both massive massive failures.
(23 Dec 2021, 10:55 pm)streetdeckfan But, prior to the pandemic, didn't that exact approach increase passenger numbers for the first time in years?
(23 Dec 2021, 10:55 pm)streetdeckfan But, prior to the pandemic, didn't that exact approach increase passenger numbers for the first time in years?
(23 Dec 2021, 7:49 pm)streetdeckfan I wonder if the X21 extension to West Auckland, and the 21 extension to Brandon will stick around. They seem like easy targets.Might not get cut, but you might have to put up with smart seats depending on the service changes and PVRs. If the X30's / X70's remain unchanged, you should be safe. But if they do change, GNE aren't going to have 4x E400MMC sitting around Consett as spares when in theory, 6336/37 being available to only cover a PVR of 5x low height deckers would be more than ample. Not forgetting the X21 is technically using 2x intended spares to cover the increased PVR at the moment.
Honestly, if they cut the X21 back to Bishop, that's me done
(23 Dec 2021, 7:49 pm)streetdeckfan I wonder if the X21 extension to West Auckland, and the 21 extension to Brandon will stick around. They seem like easy targets.Might not get cut, but you might have to put up with smart seats depending on the service changes and PVRs. If the X30's / X70's remain unchanged, you should be safe. But if they do change, GNE aren't going to have 4x E400MMC sitting around Consett as spares when in theory, 6336/37 being available to only cover a PVR of 5x low height deckers would be more than ample. Not forgetting the X21 is technically using 2x intended spares to cover the increased PVR at the moment.
Honestly, if they cut the X21 back to Bishop, that's me done
(24 Dec 2021, 6:34 am)L469 YVK Might not get cut, but you might have to put up with smart seats depending on the service changes and PVRs. If the X30's / X70's remain unchanged, you should be safe. But if they do change, GNE aren't going to have 4x E400MMC sitting around Consett as spares when in theory, 6336/37 being available to only cover a PVR of 5x low height deckers would be more than ample. Not forgetting the X21 is technically using 2x intended spares to cover the increased PVR at the moment.+ The two 67' Plates which are now free up, could paint them into X21's. Then keep 6335/6377
(24 Dec 2021, 6:34 am)L469 YVK Might not get cut, but you might have to put up with smart seats depending on the service changes and PVRs. If the X30's / X70's remain unchanged, you should be safe. But if they do change, GNE aren't going to have 4x E400MMC sitting around Consett as spares when in theory, 6336/37 being available to only cover a PVR of 5x low height deckers would be more than ample. Not forgetting the X21 is technically using 2x intended spares to cover the increased PVR at the moment.+ The two 67' Plates which are now free up, could paint them into X21's. Then keep 6335/6377
(24 Dec 2021, 7:27 am)Keeiajs + The two 67' Plates which are now free up, could paint them into X21's. Then keep 6335/6377The 67 plates as in StreetDecks?
Keep 6376 a Washington with 6334.
(24 Dec 2021, 7:27 am)Keeiajs + The two 67' Plates which are now free up, could paint them into X21's. Then keep 6335/6377The 67 plates as in StreetDecks?
Keep 6376 a Washington with 6334.
(23 Dec 2021, 10:50 pm)Ambassador I’m not sure what to make of that update to a point,
A growing in popularity railway service impacting the X84/5….growing In popularity since erm…1834?
There’s an elephant in the room aspect to this. The govt will not and can’t afford to fund buses, the pandemic has made buses even less popular than before which is an achievement and all that money spent on Ray Stenning PowerPoint templates was a nice try but erm…yeah nobody likes buses. It shows all the money wasted on paint jobs as the union call them and fanfare of printed timetables (popular with old people, roger french and bus enthusiasts only) mean absolutely nothing
I hate to sound like our dear Andreos …well I don’t…but at what point do you realise the problem is you
More to come here I think. Further cuts, more money to DRT schemes and those impacted don’t and won’t vote tory. I’d be rts worried if I relied on public transport in a less desirable connected area or worked at go ahead but I’d be thrilled to be a middle manager or a shareholder…or ray stenning, rebrands ahoy!
To end a positive…of sorts. It’s a real shame Martijn joined GNE at a time of crisis and you wonder what he could have done with the resources that Huntley and Carr had, both massive massive failures.
(23 Dec 2021, 10:50 pm)Ambassador I’m not sure what to make of that update to a point,
A growing in popularity railway service impacting the X84/5….growing In popularity since erm…1834?
There’s an elephant in the room aspect to this. The govt will not and can’t afford to fund buses, the pandemic has made buses even less popular than before which is an achievement and all that money spent on Ray Stenning PowerPoint templates was a nice try but erm…yeah nobody likes buses. It shows all the money wasted on paint jobs as the union call them and fanfare of printed timetables (popular with old people, roger french and bus enthusiasts only) mean absolutely nothing
I hate to sound like our dear Andreos …well I don’t…but at what point do you realise the problem is you
More to come here I think. Further cuts, more money to DRT schemes and those impacted don’t and won’t vote tory. I’d be rts worried if I relied on public transport in a less desirable connected area or worked at go ahead but I’d be thrilled to be a middle manager or a shareholder…or ray stenning, rebrands ahoy!
To end a positive…of sorts. It’s a real shame Martijn joined GNE at a time of crisis and you wonder what he could have done with the resources that Huntley and Carr had, both massive massive failures.
Having seen the internal briefing for the changes at the end of January, changes are nowhere as drastic as the last round of service changes.
However there are evening service reductions from 4th January (to last until 30th January according to the notice). Timetables are online apparently (although I haven't looked). Two things stand out for me, Nexus contract 33 (reduced to hourly) and the X22 (suspended temporarily).
(24 Dec 2021, 9:58 am)morritt89 Having seen the internal briefing for the changes at the end of January, changes are nowhere as drastic as the last round of service changes.Any idea of other changes without giving too much away?
However there are evening service reductions from 4th January (to last until 30th January according to the notice). Timetables are online apparently (although I haven't looked). Two things stand out for me, Nexus contract 33 (reduced to hourly) and the X22 (suspended temporarily).
(24 Dec 2021, 9:58 am)morritt89 Having seen the internal briefing for the changes at the end of January, changes are nowhere as drastic as the last round of service changes.Any idea of other changes without giving too much away?
However there are evening service reductions from 4th January (to last until 30th January according to the notice). Timetables are online apparently (although I haven't looked). Two things stand out for me, Nexus contract 33 (reduced to hourly) and the X22 (suspended temporarily).
