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tyresmoke



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16 Feb 2022, 6:31 am #1
A number of vehicles have arrived from the North West apparently as cover for refurbishments.

Durham have Centros 2610 & 2612 while Commander 2579 has reportedly arrived at Ashington


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tyresmoke
16 Feb 2022, 6:31 am #1

A number of vehicles have arrived from the North West apparently as cover for refurbishments.

Durham have Centros 2610 & 2612 while Commander 2579 has reportedly arrived at Ashington


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17 Feb 2022, 9:55 am #2
(16 Feb 2022, 6:31 am)tyresmoke A number of vehicles have arrived from the North West apparently as cover for refurbishments.

Durham have Centros 2610 & 2612 while Commander 2579 has reportedly arrived at Ashington


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2579 into service at Ashington this morning, tracking as SP AN on Bustimes.
mb134
17 Feb 2022, 9:55 am #2

(16 Feb 2022, 6:31 am)tyresmoke A number of vehicles have arrived from the North West apparently as cover for refurbishments.

Durham have Centros 2610 & 2612 while Commander 2579 has reportedly arrived at Ashington


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2579 into service at Ashington this morning, tracking as SP AN on Bustimes.

Train8261



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17 Feb 2022, 4:02 pm #3
(17 Feb 2022, 9:55 am)mb134 2579 into service at Ashington this morning, tracking as SP AN on Bustimes.
https://flic.kr/p/2n47pRP

In Service currently on the X22 to Ashington
Train8261
17 Feb 2022, 4:02 pm #3

(17 Feb 2022, 9:55 am)mb134 2579 into service at Ashington this morning, tracking as SP AN on Bustimes.
https://flic.kr/p/2n47pRP

In Service currently on the X22 to Ashington

17 Feb 2022, 8:25 pm #4
Was tracking this evening as 2579 on the X21/X22. Had to take a double take when I saw a Wright "Classic Style" single decker in the darkness on the A1 this evening, I thought they had resurrected a Wright Renown.

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Rapidsnap
17 Feb 2022, 8:25 pm #4

Was tracking this evening as 2579 on the X21/X22. Had to take a double take when I saw a Wright "Classic Style" single decker in the darkness on the A1 this evening, I thought they had resurrected a Wright Renown.


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17 Feb 2022, 8:58 pm #5
(16 Feb 2022, 6:31 am)tyresmoke A number of vehicles have arrived from the North West apparently as cover for refurbishments.

Durham have Centros 2610 & 2612 while Commander 2579 has reportedly arrived at Ashington


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Do you know what vehicles are getting refurbed?
Dans_bus_photos
17 Feb 2022, 8:58 pm #5

(16 Feb 2022, 6:31 am)tyresmoke A number of vehicles have arrived from the North West apparently as cover for refurbishments.

Durham have Centros 2610 & 2612 while Commander 2579 has reportedly arrived at Ashington


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Do you know what vehicles are getting refurbed?

17 Feb 2022, 11:24 pm #6
Probably either Pulsar 2s or Streetlites.

Or knowning Arriva, something completely random, then give up part way through.

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Rapidsnap
17 Feb 2022, 11:24 pm #6

Probably either Pulsar 2s or Streetlites.

Or knowning Arriva, something completely random, then give up part way through.


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busmanT



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18 Feb 2022, 10:12 pm #7
(17 Feb 2022, 8:58 pm)Dans_bus_photos Do you know what vehicles are getting refurbed?

One might assume buses that are mid-life i.e. around 7 or 8 years old. StreetLite's and E400 I would guess.
busmanT
18 Feb 2022, 10:12 pm #7

(17 Feb 2022, 8:58 pm)Dans_bus_photos Do you know what vehicles are getting refurbed?

One might assume buses that are mid-life i.e. around 7 or 8 years old. StreetLite's and E400 I would guess.

Storx



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18 Feb 2022, 10:57 pm #8
(18 Feb 2022, 10:12 pm)busmanT One might assume buses that are mid-life i.e. around 7 or 8 years old. StreetLite's and E400 I would guess.

Have a feeling the Pulsars from Liverpool and the ones for the 1/2 which I assume are the assortment from Redcar, Durham and elsewhere might get done aswell. Some of them haven't been touched in 13 year and in poor state; 1407 and 1409 in particular which is in the hybrid Overdrive/Arriva Original interior. Believe it's mentioned before the Streetlite's are getting done though.
Storx
18 Feb 2022, 10:57 pm #8

(18 Feb 2022, 10:12 pm)busmanT One might assume buses that are mid-life i.e. around 7 or 8 years old. StreetLite's and E400 I would guess.

Have a feeling the Pulsars from Liverpool and the ones for the 1/2 which I assume are the assortment from Redcar, Durham and elsewhere might get done aswell. Some of them haven't been touched in 13 year and in poor state; 1407 and 1409 in particular which is in the hybrid Overdrive/Arriva Original interior. Believe it's mentioned before the Streetlite's are getting done though.

19 Feb 2022, 3:38 pm #9
(18 Feb 2022, 10:57 pm)Storx Have a feeling the Pulsars from Liverpool and the ones for the 1/2 which I assume are the assortment from Redcar, Durham and elsewhere might get done aswell. Some of them haven't been touched in 13 year and in poor state; 1407 and 1409 in particular which is in the hybrid Overdrive/Arriva Original interior. Believe it's mentioned before the Streetlite's are getting done though.
The Hybrid/eco livery (old) is being binned across the network, especially in Liverpool where G2s are in the process of repainted. Putting 2 &2 together may suggest 1574-89 will be in with a good chance of repaint.
NewcastleOne
19 Feb 2022, 3:38 pm #9

(18 Feb 2022, 10:57 pm)Storx Have a feeling the Pulsars from Liverpool and the ones for the 1/2 which I assume are the assortment from Redcar, Durham and elsewhere might get done aswell. Some of them haven't been touched in 13 year and in poor state; 1407 and 1409 in particular which is in the hybrid Overdrive/Arriva Original interior. Believe it's mentioned before the Streetlite's are getting done though.
The Hybrid/eco livery (old) is being binned across the network, especially in Liverpool where G2s are in the process of repainted. Putting 2 &2 together may suggest 1574-89 will be in with a good chance of repaint.

Storx



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19 Feb 2022, 5:32 pm #10
(19 Feb 2022, 3:38 pm)NewcastleOne The Hybrid/eco livery (old) is being binned across the network, especially in Liverpool where G2s are in the process of repainted. Putting 2 &2 together may suggest 1574-89 will be in with a good chance of repaint.

Aye agreed tbh. I believe someone said awhile back they're all getting done this year when I mentioned awhile back it didn't make sense to send two of the eco ones to Durham and Pulsars would've made more sense. Can't remember who it was though. 

The original 09 batch Pulsars which aren't into MAX urgently need done though especially the ones still in the Arriva original livery like 1407 and 1409. One of them in bad condition as inside with burnt seats and them all white where I assume they've washed grafitti off at some time.
Storx
19 Feb 2022, 5:32 pm #10

(19 Feb 2022, 3:38 pm)NewcastleOne The Hybrid/eco livery (old) is being binned across the network, especially in Liverpool where G2s are in the process of repainted. Putting 2 &2 together may suggest 1574-89 will be in with a good chance of repaint.

Aye agreed tbh. I believe someone said awhile back they're all getting done this year when I mentioned awhile back it didn't make sense to send two of the eco ones to Durham and Pulsars would've made more sense. Can't remember who it was though. 

The original 09 batch Pulsars which aren't into MAX urgently need done though especially the ones still in the Arriva original livery like 1407 and 1409. One of them in bad condition as inside with burnt seats and them all white where I assume they've washed grafitti off at some time.

19 Feb 2022, 9:09 pm #11
(19 Feb 2022, 5:32 pm)Storx Aye agreed tbh. I believe someone said awhile back they're all getting done this year when I mentioned awhile back it didn't make sense to send two of the eco ones to Durham and Pulsars would've made more sense. Can't remember who it was though. 

The original 09 batch Pulsars which aren't into MAX urgently need done though especially the ones still in the Arriva original livery like 1407 and 1409. One of them in bad condition as inside with burnt seats and them all white where I assume they've washed grafitti off at some time.
Agreed the Pulsar 2s in old old style should be done asap. Due to Arriva simplifying its brand since 2016/17 it may be worth doing vehicles by outside interior style. E.g getting rid of all eco then all pre 2009 then max/sapphire etc. Arriva NE has in my opinion a branding issue. It tried hard at first branding and advertising different schemes and did not maintain them, therefore losing the value gained. Going forward reducing brand by brand, simplifying what the customer sees, consolidating into 1 or maybe 2 brands removing the diluted brands with ‘refreshed’ vehicles.
NewcastleOne
19 Feb 2022, 9:09 pm #11

(19 Feb 2022, 5:32 pm)Storx Aye agreed tbh. I believe someone said awhile back they're all getting done this year when I mentioned awhile back it didn't make sense to send two of the eco ones to Durham and Pulsars would've made more sense. Can't remember who it was though. 

The original 09 batch Pulsars which aren't into MAX urgently need done though especially the ones still in the Arriva original livery like 1407 and 1409. One of them in bad condition as inside with burnt seats and them all white where I assume they've washed grafitti off at some time.
Agreed the Pulsar 2s in old old style should be done asap. Due to Arriva simplifying its brand since 2016/17 it may be worth doing vehicles by outside interior style. E.g getting rid of all eco then all pre 2009 then max/sapphire etc. Arriva NE has in my opinion a branding issue. It tried hard at first branding and advertising different schemes and did not maintain them, therefore losing the value gained. Going forward reducing brand by brand, simplifying what the customer sees, consolidating into 1 or maybe 2 brands removing the diluted brands with ‘refreshed’ vehicles.

Storx



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20 Feb 2022, 2:20 pm #12
(19 Feb 2022, 9:09 pm)NewcastleOne Agreed the Pulsar 2s in old old style should be done asap. Due to Arriva simplifying its brand since 2016/17 it may be worth doing vehicles by outside interior style. E.g getting rid of all eco then all pre 2009 then max/sapphire etc. Arriva NE has in my opinion a branding issue. It tried hard at first branding and advertising different schemes and did not maintain them, therefore losing the value gained. Going forward reducing brand by brand, simplifying what the customer sees, consolidating into 1 or maybe 2 brands removing the diluted brands with ‘refreshed’ vehicles.

Yeah your probably right tbh. Then again Arriva being Arriva they'll probably do the newer buses and let the older buses go their full life without any form of refurb or repaint. I believe there's no sub brands now though bar Arriva and the new livery, everything else is scrapped supposedly. The new Arriva interior seems to be a mix of MAX (Seating), Wifi / USB's and NSA's now anyway so is pretty much Sapphire Spec in everything in name anyway.
Storx
20 Feb 2022, 2:20 pm #12

(19 Feb 2022, 9:09 pm)NewcastleOne Agreed the Pulsar 2s in old old style should be done asap. Due to Arriva simplifying its brand since 2016/17 it may be worth doing vehicles by outside interior style. E.g getting rid of all eco then all pre 2009 then max/sapphire etc. Arriva NE has in my opinion a branding issue. It tried hard at first branding and advertising different schemes and did not maintain them, therefore losing the value gained. Going forward reducing brand by brand, simplifying what the customer sees, consolidating into 1 or maybe 2 brands removing the diluted brands with ‘refreshed’ vehicles.

Yeah your probably right tbh. Then again Arriva being Arriva they'll probably do the newer buses and let the older buses go their full life without any form of refurb or repaint. I believe there's no sub brands now though bar Arriva and the new livery, everything else is scrapped supposedly. The new Arriva interior seems to be a mix of MAX (Seating), Wifi / USB's and NSA's now anyway so is pretty much Sapphire Spec in everything in name anyway.

Lottie332



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22 Feb 2022, 1:42 pm #13
2612 is now in service on the 56 between Bishop Auckland and Durham and is tracking as 1328
Lottie332
22 Feb 2022, 1:42 pm #13

2612 is now in service on the 56 between Bishop Auckland and Durham and is tracking as 1328

Jimmi



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22 Feb 2022, 9:11 pm #14
(22 Feb 2022, 1:42 pm)Dyllan7817 2612 is now in service on the 56 between Bishop Auckland and Durham and is tracking as 1328
Photo of it on the 56 this afternoon: https://flic.kr/p/2n53pxN
Jimmi
22 Feb 2022, 9:11 pm #14

(22 Feb 2022, 1:42 pm)Dyllan7817 2612 is now in service on the 56 between Bishop Auckland and Durham and is tracking as 1328
Photo of it on the 56 this afternoon: https://flic.kr/p/2n53pxN

Storx



4,563
22 Feb 2022, 9:31 pm #15
This might be a stupid thing to say but is there any reason why they've loaned/got Centro's from Liverpool which are 56 plate when there's already 58 plates in the North East not in service. Seems a bit of a strange move. Assuming there's something seriously wrong with the NE ones.
Storx
22 Feb 2022, 9:31 pm #15

This might be a stupid thing to say but is there any reason why they've loaned/got Centro's from Liverpool which are 56 plate when there's already 58 plates in the North East not in service. Seems a bit of a strange move. Assuming there's something seriously wrong with the NE ones.

22 Feb 2022, 9:52 pm #16
(22 Feb 2022, 9:31 pm)Storx This might be a stupid thing to say but is there any reason why they've loaned/got Centro's from Liverpool which are 56 plate when there's already 58 plates in the North East not in service. Seems a bit of a strange move. Assuming there's something seriously wrong with the NE ones.
I maybe wrong but i think Durham maybe very short on buses that's why 1535 got sent there not sure about 1534/6 tho
busesofthenortheast
22 Feb 2022, 9:52 pm #16

(22 Feb 2022, 9:31 pm)Storx This might be a stupid thing to say but is there any reason why they've loaned/got Centro's from Liverpool which are 56 plate when there's already 58 plates in the North East not in service. Seems a bit of a strange move. Assuming there's something seriously wrong with the NE ones.
I maybe wrong but i think Durham maybe very short on buses that's why 1535 got sent there not sure about 1534/6 tho

Storx



4,563
22 Feb 2022, 11:14 pm #17
(22 Feb 2022, 9:52 pm)busesofthenortheast I maybe wrong but i think Durham maybe very short on buses that's why 1535 got sent there not sure about 1534/6 tho

Ah has it been back in service recently? I thought all 3 were just sitting around doing nothing with 1923 and 1924 aswell. Just seems strange not to use them but use second hand Commanders and Centros which are older from Liverpool especially when they got refurbished with USB's aswell.
Storx
22 Feb 2022, 11:14 pm #17

(22 Feb 2022, 9:52 pm)busesofthenortheast I maybe wrong but i think Durham maybe very short on buses that's why 1535 got sent there not sure about 1534/6 tho

Ah has it been back in service recently? I thought all 3 were just sitting around doing nothing with 1923 and 1924 aswell. Just seems strange not to use them but use second hand Commanders and Centros which are older from Liverpool especially when they got refurbished with USB's aswell.

Jimmi



10,969
23 Feb 2022, 4:45 pm #18
(22 Feb 2022, 11:14 pm)Storx Ah has it been back in service recently? I thought all 3 were just sitting around doing nothing with 1923 and 1924 aswell. Just seems strange not to use them but use second hand Commanders and Centros which are older from Liverpool especially when they got refurbished with USB's aswell.
1534/5/6 are all parked at Belmont currently, believe the plan was for them to be brought back into use there. 1923/4 were earmarked to go to Belmont on a previous allocation sheet but this didn't happen.
Jimmi
23 Feb 2022, 4:45 pm #18

(22 Feb 2022, 11:14 pm)Storx Ah has it been back in service recently? I thought all 3 were just sitting around doing nothing with 1923 and 1924 aswell. Just seems strange not to use them but use second hand Commanders and Centros which are older from Liverpool especially when they got refurbished with USB's aswell.
1534/5/6 are all parked at Belmont currently, believe the plan was for them to be brought back into use there. 1923/4 were earmarked to go to Belmont on a previous allocation sheet but this didn't happen.

RobinHood



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23 Feb 2022, 9:41 pm #19
(22 Feb 2022, 11:14 pm)Storx Ah has it been back in service recently? I thought all 3 were just sitting around doing nothing with 1923 and 1924 aswell. Just seems strange not to use them but use second hand Commanders and Centros which are older from Liverpool especially when they got refurbished with USB's aswell.
1534-36 and 1923-24 are untaxed and not MOT'd, which the offer of buses that are - probably was preferred.
RobinHood
23 Feb 2022, 9:41 pm #19

(22 Feb 2022, 11:14 pm)Storx Ah has it been back in service recently? I thought all 3 were just sitting around doing nothing with 1923 and 1924 aswell. Just seems strange not to use them but use second hand Commanders and Centros which are older from Liverpool especially when they got refurbished with USB's aswell.
1534-36 and 1923-24 are untaxed and not MOT'd, which the offer of buses that are - probably was preferred.

Storx



4,563
23 Feb 2022, 10:39 pm #20
(23 Feb 2022, 4:45 pm)Jimmi 1534/5/6 are all parked at Belmont currently, believe the plan was for them to be brought back into use there. 1923/4 were earmarked to go to Belmont on a previous allocation sheet but this didn't happen.
(23 Feb 2022, 9:41 pm)RobinHood 1534-36 and 1923-24 are untaxed and not MOT'd, which the offer of buses that are - probably was preferred.

Thanks, would make sense then if they're not MOT'd, didn't think of that. Guessing plans must have changed with Durham at some point.
Storx
23 Feb 2022, 10:39 pm #20

(23 Feb 2022, 4:45 pm)Jimmi 1534/5/6 are all parked at Belmont currently, believe the plan was for them to be brought back into use there. 1923/4 were earmarked to go to Belmont on a previous allocation sheet but this didn't happen.
(23 Feb 2022, 9:41 pm)RobinHood 1534-36 and 1923-24 are untaxed and not MOT'd, which the offer of buses that are - probably was preferred.

Thanks, would make sense then if they're not MOT'd, didn't think of that. Guessing plans must have changed with Durham at some point.

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