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peter



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13 Aug 2022, 9:16 pm #121
(13 Aug 2022, 9:02 pm)Storx Rumours to be a mass displacement of things to see off all the B7's at Ashington, Jesmond, Durham and Redcar/Whitby. How and what going where is just a guess.

Most of the displacements will have to be to Durham then, there's only 5 B7's left in Northumbria and 3 B7's at Whitby, whereas Durham have 13 still going strong.
peter
13 Aug 2022, 9:16 pm #121

(13 Aug 2022, 9:02 pm)Storx Rumours to be a mass displacement of things to see off all the B7's at Ashington, Jesmond, Durham and Redcar/Whitby. How and what going where is just a guess.

Most of the displacements will have to be to Durham then, there's only 5 B7's left in Northumbria and 3 B7's at Whitby, whereas Durham have 13 still going strong.

mb134



4,148
24 Aug 2022, 9:41 pm #122
Potentially linked to the imminent arrival of new vehicles, MAX E400s at Ashington are getting debranded. Can confirm 7516 was done today, as well as another few that I don't have the fleetnumbers of.
mb134
24 Aug 2022, 9:41 pm #122

Potentially linked to the imminent arrival of new vehicles, MAX E400s at Ashington are getting debranded. Can confirm 7516 was done today, as well as another few that I don't have the fleetnumbers of.

26 Aug 2022, 5:53 pm #124
At least they've kept with the e-leather, so much nicer and hygienic than the moquette GNE switched to
streetdeckfan
26 Aug 2022, 5:53 pm #124

At least they've kept with the e-leather, so much nicer and hygienic than the moquette GNE switched to

26 Aug 2022, 7:09 pm #125
When do the new Enviro 200 MMC's arrive and what routes are they for? Would be nice for the 57 as most of the solos on there are pretty bad and unreliable.
Arriva7446
26 Aug 2022, 7:09 pm #125

When do the new Enviro 200 MMC's arrive and what routes are they for? Would be nice for the 57 as most of the solos on there are pretty bad and unreliable.

peter



993
26 Aug 2022, 8:46 pm #126
(26 Aug 2022, 7:09 pm)Arriva7446 When do the new Enviro 200 MMC's arrive and what routes are they for? Would be nice for the 57 as most of the solos on there are pretty bad and unreliable.

Confirmed in the suggestions thread: 
(25 Aug 2022, 7:56 pm)RobinHood Five of the fourteen are going to Ashington, yes. This was confirmed internally.

The remaining 9 are for (on paper - the 55(3) and the 46/51(5) +1 spare).

The 555 and 553 don't need CAZ compliant vehicles. I understand 2601-2603 are being kept for these.

If the 55 or 46 does go, then that will probably convert the 553/555 to E200, as they won't want to split the vehicle batch any more than already planned.
peter
26 Aug 2022, 8:46 pm #126

(26 Aug 2022, 7:09 pm)Arriva7446 When do the new Enviro 200 MMC's arrive and what routes are they for? Would be nice for the 57 as most of the solos on there are pretty bad and unreliable.

Confirmed in the suggestions thread: 
(25 Aug 2022, 7:56 pm)RobinHood Five of the fourteen are going to Ashington, yes. This was confirmed internally.

The remaining 9 are for (on paper - the 55(3) and the 46/51(5) +1 spare).

The 555 and 553 don't need CAZ compliant vehicles. I understand 2601-2603 are being kept for these.

If the 55 or 46 does go, then that will probably convert the 553/555 to E200, as they won't want to split the vehicle batch any more than already planned.

Unber43



3,551
26 Aug 2022, 8:51 pm #127
What are the lengths for the E400MMC & E200MMC?
Unber43
26 Aug 2022, 8:51 pm #127

What are the lengths for the E400MMC & E200MMC?

26 Aug 2022, 9:13 pm #128
Noted at least 3 of the new ADL Enviro 200MMCs on delivery on the Heworth Bypass this morning, however I couldn't catch up to them due to getting held up at the traffic lights at the Heworth Interchange.

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Rapidsnap
26 Aug 2022, 9:13 pm #128

Noted at least 3 of the new ADL Enviro 200MMCs on delivery on the Heworth Bypass this morning, however I couldn't catch up to them due to getting held up at the traffic lights at the Heworth Interchange.


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Aaron21



784
26 Aug 2022, 9:17 pm #129
Arriva Driver has confirmed tonight that he saw 2 small ADL Enviro 200MMC in the new Arriva livery at Jesmond Depot.
Has confirmation they are not visible from the road
Aaron21
26 Aug 2022, 9:17 pm #129

Arriva Driver has confirmed tonight that he saw 2 small ADL Enviro 200MMC in the new Arriva livery at Jesmond Depot.
Has confirmation they are not visible from the road

L469 YVK



3,549
26 Aug 2022, 9:23 pm #130
(13 Aug 2022, 7:27 pm)mb134 Picture of the gear selector on Facebook seems to confirm them as Voith, not ZF (as posts on the same page seemed to suggest). Assume the local management are happy with how the Voith gearboxes are doing in 7541-52 and so have went with the same again. 

Understand that quite a few standard E400s have had lots of recurring issues with their ZF gearboxes (7530 as an example), so this could be another factor in the decision making.
I've only just seen this. What's the difference between a Voith and ZF gear selector?

Any photos?

I do think ZF is better on a good run but I get the issue around reliability. Didn't GNE have issues with 6338-40 which came to light during lockdown 1 when they operated the special 45 service?
L469 YVK
26 Aug 2022, 9:23 pm #130

(13 Aug 2022, 7:27 pm)mb134 Picture of the gear selector on Facebook seems to confirm them as Voith, not ZF (as posts on the same page seemed to suggest). Assume the local management are happy with how the Voith gearboxes are doing in 7541-52 and so have went with the same again. 

Understand that quite a few standard E400s have had lots of recurring issues with their ZF gearboxes (7530 as an example), so this could be another factor in the decision making.
I've only just seen this. What's the difference between a Voith and ZF gear selector?

Any photos?

I do think ZF is better on a good run but I get the issue around reliability. Didn't GNE have issues with 6338-40 which came to light during lockdown 1 when they operated the special 45 service?

mb134



4,148
26 Aug 2022, 9:40 pm #131
(26 Aug 2022, 9:23 pm)L469 YVK I've only just seen this. What's the difference between a Voith and ZF gear selector?

Any photos?

None of the current batch as the ones I've seen are on social media pages, therefore can't easily be uploaded here.

There is a picture of a 17-plate  Arriva MMC here though (selector on RHS of dash - note the Voith on the neutral):

[Image: 35338276282_943c35e150_n.jpg]Arriva Gillingham YX17NEN E400MMC Cab by Dylan Thomas [FT3800], on Flickr

The original(?) demo looks to have been equipped with a ZF, looking at this picture of it's time with GNE and comparing it to the ZF gear selector found in 'older' Arriva E400s:

[Image: 14212430890_1db0093462_n.jpg]Go North East: "The all-new Enviro 400 visits Riverside!" by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

[Image: 14791485532_31b530ac0e_n.jpg]Arriva North East: Sapphire Launch by Daniel Graham, on Flickr
mb134
26 Aug 2022, 9:40 pm #131

(26 Aug 2022, 9:23 pm)L469 YVK I've only just seen this. What's the difference between a Voith and ZF gear selector?

Any photos?

None of the current batch as the ones I've seen are on social media pages, therefore can't easily be uploaded here.

There is a picture of a 17-plate  Arriva MMC here though (selector on RHS of dash - note the Voith on the neutral):

[Image: 35338276282_943c35e150_n.jpg]Arriva Gillingham YX17NEN E400MMC Cab by Dylan Thomas [FT3800], on Flickr

The original(?) demo looks to have been equipped with a ZF, looking at this picture of it's time with GNE and comparing it to the ZF gear selector found in 'older' Arriva E400s:

[Image: 14212430890_1db0093462_n.jpg]Go North East: "The all-new Enviro 400 visits Riverside!" by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

[Image: 14791485532_31b530ac0e_n.jpg]Arriva North East: Sapphire Launch by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

27 Aug 2022, 7:19 am #132
Will all of the new busses have next stop announcements for all the X routes they’ll run on or just the x21/x22?
StevenW456
27 Aug 2022, 7:19 am #132

Will all of the new busses have next stop announcements for all the X routes they’ll run on or just the x21/x22?

L469 YVK



3,549
27 Aug 2022, 8:12 am #133
(26 Aug 2022, 9:40 pm)mb134 None of the current batch as the ones I've seen are on social media pages, therefore can't easily be uploaded here.

There is a picture of a 17-plate  Arriva MMC here though (selector on RHS of dash - note the Voith on the neutral):

[Image: 35338276282_943c35e150_n.jpg]Arriva Gillingham YX17NEN E400MMC Cab by Dylan Thomas [FT3800], on Flickr

The original(?) demo looks to have been equipped with a ZF, looking at this picture of it's time with GNE and comparing it to the ZF gear selector found in 'older' Arriva E400s:

[Image: 14212430890_1db0093462_n.jpg]Go North East: "The all-new Enviro 400 visits Riverside!" by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

[Image: 14791485532_31b530ac0e_n.jpg]Arriva North East: Sapphire Launch by Daniel Graham, on Flickr
Hmmmm interesting!
L469 YVK
27 Aug 2022, 8:12 am #133

(26 Aug 2022, 9:40 pm)mb134 None of the current batch as the ones I've seen are on social media pages, therefore can't easily be uploaded here.

There is a picture of a 17-plate  Arriva MMC here though (selector on RHS of dash - note the Voith on the neutral):

[Image: 35338276282_943c35e150_n.jpg]Arriva Gillingham YX17NEN E400MMC Cab by Dylan Thomas [FT3800], on Flickr

The original(?) demo looks to have been equipped with a ZF, looking at this picture of it's time with GNE and comparing it to the ZF gear selector found in 'older' Arriva E400s:

[Image: 14212430890_1db0093462_n.jpg]Go North East: "The all-new Enviro 400 visits Riverside!" by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

[Image: 14791485532_31b530ac0e_n.jpg]Arriva North East: Sapphire Launch by Daniel Graham, on Flickr
Hmmmm interesting!

27 Aug 2022, 8:34 am #134
(26 Aug 2022, 9:17 pm)Aaron21 Arriva Driver has confirmed tonight that he saw 2 small ADL Enviro 200MMC in the new Arriva livery at Jesmond Depot.
Has confirmation they are not visible from the road

There a new E200MMC currently in storage at Darlington depot, posted in BusesNortheast page on Facebook

Fleet No. 2706
Reg. YX72 OKF
Stuartphin1639
27 Aug 2022, 8:34 am #134

(26 Aug 2022, 9:17 pm)Aaron21 Arriva Driver has confirmed tonight that he saw 2 small ADL Enviro 200MMC in the new Arriva livery at Jesmond Depot.
Has confirmation they are not visible from the road

There a new E200MMC currently in storage at Darlington depot, posted in BusesNortheast page on Facebook

Fleet No. 2706
Reg. YX72 OKF

27 Aug 2022, 9:36 am #135
(27 Aug 2022, 7:19 am)StevenW456 Will all of the new busses have next stop announcements for all the X routes they’ll run on or just the x21/x22?

All routes
omnicity4659
27 Aug 2022, 9:36 am #135

(27 Aug 2022, 7:19 am)StevenW456 Will all of the new busses have next stop announcements for all the X routes they’ll run on or just the x21/x22?

All routes

27 Aug 2022, 5:16 pm #136
(27 Aug 2022, 9:36 am)omnicity4659 All routes

I wonder if they'll actually be updated or if it'll end up similar to other vehicles where they're extremely out of date?
reymyster9
27 Aug 2022, 5:16 pm #136

(27 Aug 2022, 9:36 am)omnicity4659 All routes

I wonder if they'll actually be updated or if it'll end up similar to other vehicles where they're extremely out of date?

27 Aug 2022, 10:18 pm #137
(27 Aug 2022, 5:16 pm)reymyster9 I wonder if they'll actually be updated or if it'll end up similar to other vehicles where they're extremely out of date?

i somewhat doubt they’ll have next stop announcements for anything other than the x21/x22 anyways never heard any on the x14/x15/x18/x20 before despite them having the displays in some of the busses.
StevenW456
27 Aug 2022, 10:18 pm #137

(27 Aug 2022, 5:16 pm)reymyster9 I wonder if they'll actually be updated or if it'll end up similar to other vehicles where they're extremely out of date?

i somewhat doubt they’ll have next stop announcements for anything other than the x21/x22 anyways never heard any on the x14/x15/x18/x20 before despite them having the displays in some of the busses.

Storx



4,579
27 Aug 2022, 10:43 pm #138
(27 Aug 2022, 10:18 pm)StevenW456 i somewhat doubt they’ll have next stop announcements for anything other than the x21/x22 anyways never heard any on the x14/x15/x18/x20 before despite them having the displays in some of the busses.

None of the buses on the X14/X15/X18/X20 have NSA's so they haven't been set up. (on paper at least).

Every route now should have NSA's excluding the 1 and 2 but the spare Enviro 200 MMC will no doubt end up on them anyway so they all need done now. If the Enviro 200's has NSA's anyway. I'm not actually sure, anyone confirm?
Storx
27 Aug 2022, 10:43 pm #138

(27 Aug 2022, 10:18 pm)StevenW456 i somewhat doubt they’ll have next stop announcements for anything other than the x21/x22 anyways never heard any on the x14/x15/x18/x20 before despite them having the displays in some of the busses.

None of the buses on the X14/X15/X18/X20 have NSA's so they haven't been set up. (on paper at least).

Every route now should have NSA's excluding the 1 and 2 but the spare Enviro 200 MMC will no doubt end up on them anyway so they all need done now. If the Enviro 200's has NSA's anyway. I'm not actually sure, anyone confirm?

Jimmi



10,970
27 Aug 2022, 11:30 pm #139
(27 Aug 2022, 10:43 pm)Storx None of the buses on the X14/X15/X18/X20 have NSA's so they haven't been set up. (on paper at least).

Every route now should have NSA's excluding the 1 and 2 but the spare Enviro 200 MMC will no doubt end up on them anyway so they all need done now. If the Enviro 200's has NSA's anyway. I'm not actually sure, anyone confirm?

MAX X18 liveried E400's 7529-33 do have NSA equipment fitted and have done for some time now with some journeys on the X18 having guided tour commentary on them when they were fitted (unsure if this is still offered or not or if the equipment even works).

Most depots already with NSA equipment do have announcements for most routes they operate, Darlington certainly have all the out of town routes programmed in (likely town services too given NSA kit was fitted to the previously Frequenta 3/3A liveried Solo's)
Jimmi
27 Aug 2022, 11:30 pm #139

(27 Aug 2022, 10:43 pm)Storx None of the buses on the X14/X15/X18/X20 have NSA's so they haven't been set up. (on paper at least).

Every route now should have NSA's excluding the 1 and 2 but the spare Enviro 200 MMC will no doubt end up on them anyway so they all need done now. If the Enviro 200's has NSA's anyway. I'm not actually sure, anyone confirm?

MAX X18 liveried E400's 7529-33 do have NSA equipment fitted and have done for some time now with some journeys on the X18 having guided tour commentary on them when they were fitted (unsure if this is still offered or not or if the equipment even works).

Most depots already with NSA equipment do have announcements for most routes they operate, Darlington certainly have all the out of town routes programmed in (likely town services too given NSA kit was fitted to the previously Frequenta 3/3A liveried Solo's)

28 Aug 2022, 12:33 am #140
(27 Aug 2022, 10:43 pm)Storx None of the buses on the X14/X15/X18/X20 have NSA's so they haven't been set up. (on paper at least).

Every route now should have NSA's excluding the 1 and 2 but the spare Enviro 200 MMC will no doubt end up on them anyway so they all need done now. If the Enviro 200's has NSA's anyway. I'm not actually sure, anyone confirm?
That will be interesting to see then, i wonder if they will be the same type of announcements that are currently on the X21/X22, personally they are my favorite.
StevenW456
28 Aug 2022, 12:33 am #140

(27 Aug 2022, 10:43 pm)Storx None of the buses on the X14/X15/X18/X20 have NSA's so they haven't been set up. (on paper at least).

Every route now should have NSA's excluding the 1 and 2 but the spare Enviro 200 MMC will no doubt end up on them anyway so they all need done now. If the Enviro 200's has NSA's anyway. I'm not actually sure, anyone confirm?
That will be interesting to see then, i wonder if they will be the same type of announcements that are currently on the X21/X22, personally they are my favorite.

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