Concerts in Tyne and Wear - Special SF Buses and Metro
Concerts in Tyne and Wear - Special SF Buses and Metro
(10 Jun 2023, 9:04 pm)Storx Football should be no-where near a gig and having stuff like the Champions League song as you're walk on is just too far.
They'll all be crying, they're already trying to argue that St James is a better place for gigs but it's not. All the big bands / gigs go to Sunderland as St James has all sorts of problems hence the stage being in the corner.
Mental football rivarly up here and taking it beyond football.
(10 Jun 2023, 9:04 pm)Storx Football should be no-where near a gig and having stuff like the Champions League song as you're walk on is just too far.
They'll all be crying, they're already trying to argue that St James is a better place for gigs but it's not. All the big bands / gigs go to Sunderland as St James has all sorts of problems hence the stage being in the corner.
Mental football rivarly up here and taking it beyond football.
(11 Jun 2023, 9:44 am)Shrek I went to see Kip Moore at the Sage a few weeks ago, he's American but he played the Champions League music before he came out. Most bands I've been to see will do something local to get the crowd going.
As for which stadium is better for gigs, Newcastle were never interested in them during the Ashley era. Going forward it's likely you'll see a lot more there, not just Sam Fender.
On Nexus, I do think they could have planned this better, but it's an incredibly difficult process with so many people needing to use the network and the limited staff and resources available. They need to learn from this, but from what I've heard from people who were at the gigs at Sunderland and Newcastle last night, it was no worse than normal to get home.
(11 Jun 2023, 9:44 am)Shrek I went to see Kip Moore at the Sage a few weeks ago, he's American but he played the Champions League music before he came out. Most bands I've been to see will do something local to get the crowd going.
As for which stadium is better for gigs, Newcastle were never interested in them during the Ashley era. Going forward it's likely you'll see a lot more there, not just Sam Fender.
On Nexus, I do think they could have planned this better, but it's an incredibly difficult process with so many people needing to use the network and the limited staff and resources available. They need to learn from this, but from what I've heard from people who were at the gigs at Sunderland and Newcastle last night, it was no worse than normal to get home.
(10 Jun 2023, 10:32 pm)Storx Surely they'll just be waiting to get a reasonable load before taking off, it's all drop off only so no point running the service if there's no-one on.
(11 Jun 2023, 9:44 am)Shrek I went to see Kip Moore at the Sage a few weeks ago, he's American but he played the Champions League music before he came out. Most bands I've been to see will do something local to get the crowd going.
As for which stadium is better for gigs, Newcastle were never interested in them during the Ashley era. Going forward it's likely you'll see a lot more there, not just Sam Fender.
On Nexus, I do think they could have planned this better, but it's an incredibly difficult process with so many people needing to use the network and the limited staff and resources available. They need to learn from this, but from what I've heard from people who were at the gigs at Sunderland and Newcastle last night, it was no worse than normal to get home.
(10 Jun 2023, 10:32 pm)Storx Surely they'll just be waiting to get a reasonable load before taking off, it's all drop off only so no point running the service if there's no-one on.
(11 Jun 2023, 9:44 am)Shrek I went to see Kip Moore at the Sage a few weeks ago, he's American but he played the Champions League music before he came out. Most bands I've been to see will do something local to get the crowd going.
As for which stadium is better for gigs, Newcastle were never interested in them during the Ashley era. Going forward it's likely you'll see a lot more there, not just Sam Fender.
On Nexus, I do think they could have planned this better, but it's an incredibly difficult process with so many people needing to use the network and the limited staff and resources available. They need to learn from this, but from what I've heard from people who were at the gigs at Sunderland and Newcastle last night, it was no worse than normal to get home.
(11 Jun 2023, 9:44 am)Shrek I went to see Kip Moore at the Sage a few weeks ago, he's American but he played the Champions League music before he came out. Most bands I've been to see will do something local to get the crowd going.
As for which stadium is better for gigs, Newcastle were never interested in them during the Ashley era. Going forward it's likely you'll see a lot more there, not just Sam Fender.
On Nexus, I do think they could have planned this better, but it's an incredibly difficult process with so many people needing to use the network and the limited staff and resources available. They need to learn from this, but from what I've heard from people who were at the gigs at Sunderland and Newcastle last night, it was no worse than normal to get home.
(11 Jun 2023, 10:29 am)Adrian Are they able to do that with a timetabled service? Remember, the Metro was off for everyone, not just those going to the Sam Fender concert.
(11 Jun 2023, 9:44 am)Shrek I went to see Kip Moore at the Sage a few weeks ago, he's American but he played the Champions League music before he came out. Most bands I've been to see will do something local to get the crowd going.
As for which stadium is better for gigs, Newcastle were never interested in them during the Ashley era. Going forward it's likely you'll see a lot more there, not just Sam Fender.
On Nexus, I do think they could have planned this better, but it's an incredibly difficult process with so many people needing to use the network and the limited staff and resources available. They need to learn from this, but from what I've heard from people who were at the gigs at Sunderland and Newcastle last night, it was no worse than normal to get home.
(11 Jun 2023, 10:29 am)Adrian Are they able to do that with a timetabled service? Remember, the Metro was off for everyone, not just those going to the Sam Fender concert.
I was on the ground in Newcastle too, I think an extension to local services would have been a better use of resource than dedicated services.
Our last buses to Wallsend cross over the city at around 2300 and 2320, and there were reports of Byker terminating services being inundated with requests to go to Wallsend etc.
Our SF1 drivers, drafted in from numerous depots, would have been better utilised covering and strengthening the likes of the 39/40.
(12 Jun 2023, 9:17 pm)Unber43 I think local services should have run an extra two hours later, when any concert or big event is on, especially how bare boned Sunday evening services can be
(12 Jun 2023, 9:17 pm)Unber43 I think local services should have run an extra two hours later, when any concert or big event is on, especially how bare boned Sunday evening services can be
(15 Jun 2023, 6:03 pm)L469 YVK The Coast Road services are bad especially for mid-week NUFC kick offs.
Before covid, it was:
- 306/308 - 4x PH Newcastle - Billy Mill
- 309/310/311 - 3x PH Newcastle - Cobalt South
Now only 4x buses per hour and the last 309 of the evening after the Leicester match left St Mary's Place full. Now after 11pm, a 75-80% load would be acceptable but services leaving full and risking leaving passengers out of pocket with a taxi fare if unable to get on is unacceptable.
Should be at least a 10 minute frequency (or 6x buses per hour) between Newcastle and Station Road on match nights after full time
(15 Jun 2023, 6:03 pm)L469 YVK The Coast Road services are bad especially for mid-week NUFC kick offs.
Before covid, it was:
- 306/308 - 4x PH Newcastle - Billy Mill
- 309/310/311 - 3x PH Newcastle - Cobalt South
Now only 4x buses per hour and the last 309 of the evening after the Leicester match left St Mary's Place full. Now after 11pm, a 75-80% load would be acceptable but services leaving full and risking leaving passengers out of pocket with a taxi fare if unable to get on is unacceptable.
Should be at least a 10 minute frequency (or 6x buses per hour) between Newcastle and Station Road on match nights after full time
(15 Jun 2023, 6:03 pm)L469 YVK The Coast Road services are bad especially for mid-week NUFC kick offs.
Before covid, it was:
- 306/308 - 4x PH Newcastle - Billy Mill
- 309/310/311 - 3x PH Newcastle - Cobalt South
Now only 4x buses per hour and the last 309 of the evening after the Leicester match left St Mary's Place full. Now after 11pm, a 75-80% load would be acceptable but services leaving full and risking leaving passengers out of pocket with a taxi fare if unable to get on is unacceptable.
Should be at least a 10 minute frequency (or 6x buses per hour) between Newcastle and Station Road on match nights after full time
(15 Jun 2023, 6:03 pm)L469 YVK The Coast Road services are bad especially for mid-week NUFC kick offs.
Before covid, it was:
- 306/308 - 4x PH Newcastle - Billy Mill
- 309/310/311 - 3x PH Newcastle - Cobalt South
Now only 4x buses per hour and the last 309 of the evening after the Leicester match left St Mary's Place full. Now after 11pm, a 75-80% load would be acceptable but services leaving full and risking leaving passengers out of pocket with a taxi fare if unable to get on is unacceptable.
Should be at least a 10 minute frequency (or 6x buses per hour) between Newcastle and Station Road on match nights after full time
Surely a better solution would be to route train one or two drivers at Riverside to do the 10, 21, 56, X1, X10 and 309 and have them on standby in Newcastle in case a bus gets full and drop in if needed. If not then just head back to the depot. Seems more sense than running numerous duplicates which likely won't be needed.
Similar Arriva Blyth could do the same for the 43, 306, 308, X10 and possibly X15/X21 aswell.
(15 Jun 2023, 6:34 pm)Storx Surely a better solution would be to route train one or two drivers at Riverside to do the 10, 21, 56, X1, X10 and 309 and have them on standby in Newcastle in case a bus gets full and drop in if needed. If not then just head back to the depot. Seems more sense than running numerous duplicates which likely won't be needed.
Similar Arriva Blyth could do the same for the 43, 306, 308, X10 and possibly X15/X21 aswell.
(15 Jun 2023, 6:34 pm)Storx Surely a better solution would be to route train one or two drivers at Riverside to do the 10, 21, 56, X1, X10 and 309 and have them on standby in Newcastle in case a bus gets full and drop in if needed. If not then just head back to the depot. Seems more sense than running numerous duplicates which likely won't be needed.
Similar Arriva Blyth could do the same for the 43, 306, 308, X10 and possibly X15/X21 aswell.
(15 Jun 2023, 7:57 pm)mb134 Don't see how that's a better solution at all, if you're paying them to drive into Newcastle and wait around, you may as well get them to drive something back in service.
I've not paid much attention to what GNE do with duplicates as it doesn't concern me in getting home from a match, but Arriva tend to know pretty well what's going to need an additional bus. They throw quite a lot of resource at it, and seeing the passenger loadings on them it seems to pay off.
(15 Jun 2023, 7:57 pm)mb134 Don't see how that's a better solution at all, if you're paying them to drive into Newcastle and wait around, you may as well get them to drive something back in service.
I've not paid much attention to what GNE do with duplicates as it doesn't concern me in getting home from a match, but Arriva tend to know pretty well what's going to need an additional bus. They throw quite a lot of resource at it, and seeing the passenger loadings on them it seems to pay off.
(15 Jun 2023, 6:34 pm)Storx Surely a better solution would be to route train one or two drivers at Riverside to do the 10, 21, 56, X1, X10 and 309 and have them on standby in Newcastle in case a bus gets full and drop in if needed. If not then just head back to the depot. Seems more sense than running numerous duplicates which likely won't be needed.There is an early morning 56 journey ran by Riverside, but im not sure whether that is a route being once a day where only a select few drivers learn, or all of them on the 27 Rota.
Similar Arriva Blyth could do the same for the 43, 306, 308, X10 and possibly X15/X21 aswell.
(15 Jun 2023, 6:34 pm)Storx Surely a better solution would be to route train one or two drivers at Riverside to do the 10, 21, 56, X1, X10 and 309 and have them on standby in Newcastle in case a bus gets full and drop in if needed. If not then just head back to the depot. Seems more sense than running numerous duplicates which likely won't be needed.There is an early morning 56 journey ran by Riverside, but im not sure whether that is a route being once a day where only a select few drivers learn, or all of them on the 27 Rota.
Similar Arriva Blyth could do the same for the 43, 306, 308, X10 and possibly X15/X21 aswell.
