Arriva North East: Service Suggestions

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Yeah, looking at the timetable of the 23 now, it just wouldn't happen like that. It must have worked off something - I just can't imagine Belmont to have a vehicle stuck in the depot all day and then go out to do a 26A on an evening. I can only find two photos of the 26A under Arriva operation (both from myself), but on both occasions were definitely Solos. I can't think of a service operated by Belmont that has the guarantee of a Solo though?
I am sure the 49 usually has Solos?
What does everyone this of this service suggestion?

The 3 is poorly used between Wallsend and the Freeman Hospital, so I have come up with a idea to change this. If they extended it beyond the Freeman Hospital to Wansbeck Hospital via Quorum, Killingworth and Cramlington, this would provide a great number of new links. Residents of Broomfield Avenue would get a better services, and workers from the Freeman Hospital and Quorum would get a direct, frequent service to Wallsend and Ashington.
heres my idea


bring back the 56 under a new route

North shields - Meadowell - Howdon (then up Churchill street) - Battle Hill - Benton Asda - Four lane ends - West moor - Killingworth east bailey the 63 way and into the bus station
Suggestion for a new turn up and go service for the Coast Road through services 306 and 308:

- Service 305 (Sunday Daytime every 30 minutes) serving: The current 308 route between Billy Mill and Newcastle

- Service 306 (Monday - Saturday Daytime every 10 minutes / Evenings and Sundays every 30 minutes) serving: Whitley Bay Town Centre - Cullercoates John Street - Mast Lane - Marden Estate - Broadway - Beach Road - Grand Parade - Percy Park Rd - Mannor Road - Linkskill Terrace - North Shields Christ Church - Preston Road - QA 6th Form - Billy Mill then the current 308 route to Newcastle Haymarket. Buses towards Whitley Bay will serve North Shields Metro and Bedford Street

- Service 308 (Monday - Saturday Daytime every 10 minutes / Evenings and Sundays every 30 minutes) serving: The current 308 route between Blyth and Newcastle

These new services will mean:
- A bus every 5 minutes between Billy Mill and Newcastle Monday to Saturday Daytime
- A bus every 15 minutes between Billy Mill and Newcastle during the Evenings
- A bus every 10 minutes between Billy Mill and Newcastle during Sunday Daytimes
- Battle Hill Drive will no longer be served but a 5 minute frequency will make up for this on the Coast Road. Reliability of both services will be improved as a result
- Less overcrowding on service 308 at peak times through an increased frequency.
- Service 308 would receive an additional 2 Volvo B5LH Wright Eclipse Gemini 2 LH Hybrids to accommodate for an increase of frequency. All of the existing buses including the two new ones would include free Wi-Fi
- Service 306 would receive a new fleet of 10-12 Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2's equipped with free Wi-Fi. New buses for service 306 will ensure that the service remains reliable through less breakdowns and also improve consistency with service 308 too. Customer satisfaction would also improve too.
- Service 306 would also benefit from growth by gaining passengers from GNE's Coaster service that only runs every 15 minutes.
- To encourage more patronage on both services, Arriva could new tickets for the Coastliner services
- Zone 1 would include the route between Newcastle and Willington Square.
- Zone 2 would include the rest of the routes but excluding the 308 after Whitley Bay Caravan Park.
- Zone 3 would include between Whitley Bay Caravan Park and Blyth.
- 1 Zone would cost £2.50 for a day, £10 for 1 week, £30 for 1 month and £330 for one year.
- 2 Zones would cost £3.00 for a day, £12 for 1 week, £36 for 1 month and £396 for one year.[/b]
- 3 Zones would cost £3.50 for a day, £14 for 1 week, £42 for 1 month and £462 for one year.
(24 Aug 2013, 4:07 pm)citaro5284 Wrote: And how much would this cost to operate let alone the cost of 14 new vehicles (2 of them hybrids) and does the Coast Road justify a 5 minute frequency along with GNE and Stagecoach's 38 from the Corner House into Newcastle.

If the 308 ran every 10 mins, and the 306 every 10 mins, and then the 305 from Billy Mill every 30 minutes, would that not mean a bus more frequent than every 5 minutes at certain times within the hour.

I have to say, whilst I enjoy (and laugh) reading some of the suggestions here and also on the GNE/Stagecoach threads about service suggestions, lets all remain in the real world....please Tongue

No, the 305 would run on Sunday Daytimes. Do you know how the 21 runs to CLS every 10 minutes then onto Durham every 30 minutes on Sundays, that's how it would work on the Coast Road only on Sunday Daytimes between Billy Mill and Newcastle. It would be something like this from Haymarket on a Sunday :

00 (308BLYTH), 10 (305B.MILL), 20 (306W.BAY), 30 (308BLYTH), 40 (305B.MILL), 50 (306W.BAY)
Service suggestions for Northumerland concerning services X14, X15, X18, X20

- Service X51 (Monday - Saturday Daytime every 120 minutes / Evenings and Sundays every 120 minutes) serving: The current X15 route between Newcastle and Alnwick. Buses will then continue to Berwick via the current X18 route.

- Service X52 (Monday - Saturday Daytime every 120 minutes) serving: The current X15 route between Newcastle and Berwick.

- Service X53 (Monday - Saturday Daytime every 60 minutes / Evenings and Sundays every 60 minutes) serving: The current X18 route between Alnwick and Newcastle.

- Service X54 (Monday - Saturday Daytime every 60 minutes) serving: The current X18 route between Alnwick and Amble. Buses will then serve the current 20 / X20 route between Amble and Ashington / Newcastle.

- Service X55 (Monday - Saturday daytime every 60 minutes) Serving: The current 14 / X14 route between Thorpton and Newcastle.
A suggestion for extending the current zone boundaries.

Would it not be worthwhile to extend the Tyne and Wear Triple Ticket zone to cover the X2's route between Birtley and Newcastle. The Durham District Zone would remain as it is as it does seem to provide good value.

By extending the Tyne and Wear zone it would encourage people from Birtley and Low Fell who are traveling beyond Newcastle to the likes of Regent Centre, Benton Park View, Balliol and Quorum to use the X2 and then Arrivas North Tyneside services as opposed to buying a Network One or Buzzfare and changing at Gateshead or Newcastle city centre onto a metro or bus. Also I'd imagine anything which took passengers off the 21 and on to the X2 would be a bonus for Arriva.
Service suggestions for Northumberland, North Tyneside and Coast Road.

- Service 306 will now operate via the 308 route between Newcastle and Billy Mill. Buses will no longer serve Battle Hill Drive. Buses will then continue as now to Tynemouth but buses towards the Coast will operate via North Shields Metro, Bedford Street and Howard Street rather than Christ Church. Buses towards Newcastle will serve Northumberland Square then continue up Church Way onto Preston Road. From Mannor Road, buses will operate to Whitley Bay via Percy Park Road, Grand Parade, Beach Road, Broadway, Marden Estate, Mast Lane John Street and Whitley Road to Whitley Bay Town Centre. Buses towards North Shields and Newcastle will depart from York Road. Buses will operate the whole of the route every 15 minutes with evening and Sunday journeys operating every 30 minutes.

- Service 308 will continue to operate via the same route and frequency

- NEW Service X38 will operate via the current 308 route between Whitley Bay Town Centre and Billy Mill. Buses will then operate limited stop to St Mary's Place and Haymarket only calling at Norham Road and Willington Square. Buses will operate every 30 minutes during the day with evening and Sunday journeys operating hourly between Whitley Bay Town Centre and Newcastle.

- NEW Services 303 / 304 will operate every 15 minutes combined between Newcastle and Cobalt via the Cobalt Clipper route. Service 303 will continue every 30 minutes to Northumberland Park via West Allotment. Service 304 will continue to Blyth every 30 minutes via New York Road, New York P.O, Rake Lane, Preston Road, Morrisons, Marden Hartington Road, Broadway, Whitley Bay Town Centre then the current 308 route to Blyth. Both services will operate every 30 minutes in the evenings and on Sundays between Newcastle and Cobalt with journeys continuing hourly on both services.

- NEW Service 305 will operate every 15 minutes between Wallsend Metro and Newcastle via High Street East, Rosehill, Tynemouth Road, Ridley Drive, Constington Road, Churchill Street, Hadrian Park then the current 306 route between Battle Hill Drive and Newcastle. Evening and Sunday journeys will operate every 30 minutes.

- These services will provide a bus every 3-4 minutes between Kings Road and Newcastle during the day and a bus every 7-8 minutes evenings and Sundays.

- A bus every 7-8 minutes between Billy Mill and Newcastle during the day and a bus every 15 minutes evenings and Sundays.

- A bus every 7-8 minutes between Battle Hill and Newcastle during the day and a bus every 7-8 minutes evenings and Sundays.

- A bus every 15 minutes between Cobalt and Newcastle during the day and a bus every 30 minutes evenings and Sundays.

- A bus every 10 minutes between Whitley Bay Town Centre and Blyth during the day with regular evening and Sunday Journeys.

- Faster links between Northumberland, North Tyneside and Newcastle.
Arriva currently do not have a link with the Cobalt Business Park from Blyth.
The nearest bus is the 308 but you have to walk from North Tyneside Hospital.
A new service or re-routing the 308 would be ideal. I used to get the Cobalt Clipper 309 but they have cancelled the early bus from Blyth so i am unable to get to work for 7.00am unless I get the 308 and walk up from the hospital.
(17 Sep 2013, 4:57 pm)mcoyne Wrote: Arriva currently do not have a link with the Cobalt Business Park from Blyth.
The nearest bus is the 308 but you have to walk from North Tyneside Hospital.
A new service or re-routing the 308 would be ideal. I used to get the Cobalt Clipper 309 but they have cancelled the early bus from Blyth so i am unable to get to work for 7.00am unless I get the 308 and walk up from the hospital.

To save you walking from the Hospital, could you not catch the 308 to Whitley Bay and from there catch the 309 at either 0629 or 0643?
(17 Sep 2013, 4:57 pm)mcoyne Wrote: Arriva currently do not have a link with the Cobalt Business Park from Blyth.
The nearest bus is the 308 but you have to walk from North Tyneside Hospital.
A new service or re-routing the 308 would be ideal. I used to get the Cobalt Clipper 309 but they have cancelled the early bus from Blyth so i am unable to get to work for 7.00am unless I get the 308 and walk up from the hospital.

Arriva changing some of there bus services again in northtyneside/northumberland area again on October 27th 2013

(17 Sep 2013, 5:23 pm)citaro5284 Wrote: To save you walking from the Hospital, could you not catch the 308 to Whitley Bay and from there catch the 309 at either 0629 or 0643?
I probably could if the buses ran on time . It is just that the costs mount up and for me to get the 308 now instead of the 309 from blyth I now have to leave the house at 5.45am instead of 6.10am because of the route and timing of the 308.
I could get a daysaver for only £3.65 on the 309 while the 308 costs £3.50 single or £5.50 two zone ticket , then i would have the cost of 309 on top of this .
(17 Sep 2013, 5:34 pm)cbma06 Wrote: Arriva changing some of there bus services again in northtyneside/northumberland area again on October 27th 2013
Lets hope a new service incorporating the Cobalt and Blyth early in the morning is introduced.
I think the 51 should either be upgraded to Pulsars, or increase the frequency.
Simplest suggestion yet. Increase the frequency of the X1 between Boro and Durham. I've been using it quite often lately, and it's jam packed both ways. It does completely die down after Durham on an evening though.

Perhaps retain the 30 min frequency on the X2/X1 interworking, but run two X1 only runs an hour.
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(17 Oct 2013, 1:52 pm)aureolin Wrote: Simplest suggestion yet. Increase the frequency of the X1 between Boro and Durham. I've been using it quite often lately, and it's jam packed both ways. It does completely die down after Durham on an evening though.

Perhaps retain the 30 min frequency on the X2/X1 interworking, but run two X1 only runs an hour.

There is a plan to improve the X1 further but we have a problem with the running times at the moment.... they're looking into it I'm told and should be sorted properly next time!

EDIT: The X1 is definitely the stronger of the two though so I would imagine this will be picked up on!

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How feasible, would it be to run an x1 onto an x2 as it stands and with the other x1 - run it onto say an x3 and have it go fast into Newcastle or onto another destination such as the Metrocentre?
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(17 Oct 2013, 1:55 pm)tyresmoke Wrote: There is a plan to improve the X1 further but we have a problem with the running times at the moment.... they're looking into it I'm told and should be sorted properly next time!

EDIT: The X1 is definitely the stronger of the two though so I would imagine this will be picked up on!

Sounds good Scott. I know what you mean about the running times. It's getting through the university area at peak times from what I see, but without going through there, you wouldn't have 3/4 of the load it has. Think DCC need a kick up the arse to put some sort of priority system in place.
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