Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
I'd like to see the X8 have some changes even just if it was to take away the X. Even then u have the X7/X8 follow each other after Annitsford anyway. Yea its a 30 min connection but you have other routes along that route that go the same/similar way

Stagecoach X63,62,Arriva,52,54 all after the Quorum. The X7/X8 seem an odd route. Especially going back to when Killingworth Road was getting done.

I don't and will not understand why the X8 had to serve the Quorum/BT Business Center yet the X7 went straight along after the Quorum straight past FLE as the X8 had to sever Longbenton. Whatever sense that was

Like does nobody on the X7 route between Blyth and Annitsford use the Quorum/BT area. If that's the case. Send it straight up and through Longbenton. But then that's just the 54

Plus the X7/X8 are becoming less and less of an express with two more stops been added after Camperdown and Quorum

Express part is Killingworth Road to Newcastle Barris Bridge and that's it.

53 to Blyth I'd personally like to see. Dudley area used to have tons of buses going to Blyth. One only being the X8 now as its hard for people who live in Dudley have to travel up to Cramlington to Change to X9/X10/X11/X8

I only done the 1 last week so can't say but it was an okay journey after the "Hype" I had riding it

I don't understand the X9 at all. What's it meant to be..another competition route of the X10/X11 of who can get to Cramlington/Blyth Faster so I'm all for the withdrawal of that route

X19 sounds like a really good route. It would make a quick link to Newcastle

RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
(16 Jun 2021, 1:56 am)Micheal Aaron Wrote: I'd like to see the X8 have some changes even just if it was to take away the X. Even then u have the X7/X8 follow each other after Annitsford anyway. Yea its a 30 min connection but you have other routes along that route that go the same/similar way

Stagecoach X63,62,Arriva,52,54 all after the Quorum. The X7/X8 seem an odd route. Especially going back to when Killingworth Road was getting done.

I don't and will not understand why the X8 had to serve the Quorum/BT Business Center yet the X7 went straight along after the Quorum straight past FLE as the X8 had to sever Longbenton. Whatever sense that was

Like does nobody on the X7 route between Blyth and Annitsford use the Quorum/BT area. If that's the case. Send it straight up and through Longbenton. But then that's just the 54

Plus the X7/X8 are becoming less and less of an express with two more stops been added after Camperdown and Quorum

Express part is Killingworth Road to Newcastle Barris Bridge and that's it.

53 to Blyth I'd personally like to see. Dudley area used to have tons of buses going to Blyth. One only being the X8 now as its hard for people who live in Dudley have to travel up to Cramlington to Change to X9/X10/X11/X8

I only done the 1 last week so can't say but it was an okay journey after the "Hype" I had riding it

I don't understand the X9 at all. What's it meant to be..another competition route of the X10/X11 of who can get to Cramlington/Blyth Faster so I'm all for the withdrawal of that route

X19 sounds like a really good route. It would make a quick link to Newcastle
53 went to Blyth before,it was then curtailed at Cramlington
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Tez

RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
(16 Jun 2021, 6:50 am)V514DFT Wrote: 53 went to Blyth went before,it was then curtailed at Cramlington
53 used to be Blyth to whitley Bay via Cramlington & Killingworth, from Cramlington it done the normal 53 route to new York then down to Whitley Bay via NT hospital. From Blyth it went around 1st, 2nd & 12th avenue, please road, Newsham black diamond, Delaval crescent, high pit & eventually Cramlington. Sure it took about 2 hours end to end or somewhere close to that so about 4-6 times longer than the 308 & 309 for the same journey. From what I recall it used a mix of MPDs and beavers.

RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
(16 Jun 2021, 1:56 am)Micheal Aaron Wrote: I don't understand the X9 at all. What's it meant to be..another competition route of the X10/X11 of who can get to Cramlington/Blyth Faster so I'm all for the withdrawal of that route

The X9 serves Beaconhill in Cramlington, through High Pit, along the eastern side of Eastfield before serving South Beach in Blyth. It also provides east-west connections across Cramlington, X10/X11 is north-south.

Don't know what the obsession is on this forum with thinking that every route is solely for people travelling from one end to the other...  Undecided

RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
(16 Jun 2021, 4:26 pm)GNE6312 Wrote: 53 used to be Blyth to whitley Bay via Cramlington & Killingworth, from Cramlington it done the normal 53 route to new York then down to Whitley Bay via NT hospital. From Blyth it went around 1st, 2nd & 12th avenue, please road, Newsham black diamond, Delaval crescent, high pit & eventually Cramlington. Sure it took about 2 hours end to end or somewhere close to that so about 4-6 times longer than the 308 & 309 for the same journey. From what I recall it used a mix of MPDs and beavers.
I know,then it went to Renowns and ALX 300's when the 53A was introduced full time to North Shields,think at was at some point in 2012, but the 53 retained its route to Whitley Bay,both went as far as Cramlington, the 53 was the old 343 and 344,with the 343 going to Morpeth and 344 going as far as Cramlington,then it became its current setup (which is crap)
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Tez

RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
I'd like to see Arriva run a service from Metrocentre to Wallsend and Cramlington/Whitley Bay. I'm surprised Arriva don't run a service in Wallsend Town Centre as they operate the 306/308 to Wallsend/Silverlink and operate services to Cramlington and Whitley Bay, same as GNE. Arriva could run a service from Wallsend/Battle Hill to Gosforth. The 553 should merge with the Q3, extending from Wallsend to Battle Hill and Freeman Hospital to Great Park, operated by GNE.

RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
(08 Jul 2021, 9:26 pm)OrangeArrow49 Wrote: I'd like to see Arriva run a service from Metrocentre to Wallsend and Cramlington/Whitley Bay. I'm surprised Arriva don't run a service in Wallsend Town Centre as they operate the 306/308 to Wallsend/Silverlink and operate services to Cramlington and Whitley Bay, same as GNE. Arriva could run a service from Wallsend/Battle Hill to Gosforth. The 553 should merge with the Q3, extending from Wallsend to Battle Hill and Freeman Hospital to Great Park, operated by GNE.
They used to operate the 337 that ran from wallsend to whitley bay. Was that popular.
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RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
(08 Jul 2021, 9:26 pm)OrangeArrow49 Wrote: I'd like to see Arriva run a service from Metrocentre to Wallsend and Cramlington/Whitley Bay. I'm surprised Arriva don't run a service in Wallsend Town Centre as they operate the 306/308 to Wallsend/Silverlink and operate services to Cramlington and Whitley Bay, same as GNE. Arriva could run a service from Wallsend/Battle Hill to Gosforth. The 553 should merge with the Q3, extending from Wallsend to Battle Hill and Freeman Hospital to Great Park, operated by GNE.
The 553 already operates from Battle Hill to the Freeman Hospital and Regent Centre via Wallsend Town Centre.

RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
(08 Jul 2021, 9:26 pm)OrangeArrow49 Wrote: I'd like to see Arriva run a service from Metrocentre to Wallsend and Cramlington/Whitley Bay. I'm surprised Arriva don't run a service in Wallsend Town Centre as they operate the 306/308 to Wallsend/Silverlink and operate services to Cramlington and Whitley Bay, same as GNE. Arriva could run a service from Wallsend/Battle Hill to Gosforth. The 553 should merge with the Q3, extending from Wallsend to Battle Hill and Freeman Hospital to Great Park, operated by GNE.

I'm not sure there's much point in a service from Wallsend or Whitley Bay to the Metro Centre as they'd run via Newcastle so wouldn't make much sense.

Mind if they we're feeling ambitious be nice to see if they could try a Metro Centre service from SE Northumberland running around school services especially this board: https://bustimes.org/vehicles/188485?date=2021-07-06

Have something like:

07:30: 105
Run empty back to Blyth
09:30: X13 to Metro Centre via Cramlington
10:40: X13 to Blyth via Cramlington (don't expect much on this but it's better than running empty)
12:30: X13 to Metro Centre via Cramlington
13:40: X13 to Blyth via Cramlington
Run empty to Annitsford
15:15: 698
Run empty to Metro Centre
16:40: X13 to Blyth via Cramlington

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Blyth/...14!1m0!3e0 - Doing that route.

It's quite similar to GNE's X22, not sure how well it would do but could see a few people using it once in awhile and it gives links to other places missing Newcastle.

RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
First suggestion:

X30 made to run every 30 minutes all day including the Bebside extension, this will also be numbered to X12 to be in line with the other Blyth to Newcastle expresses so it goes X7-X12

To try ease delays on the expresses I'm proposing an additional 2 routes out of Newcastle for the expresses which will see a split.

Services X9: Stick to current route

X10, X20, X21, X18, X14 : Rerouted between Newcastle & the first stop after the A19 via the following route: via St Thomas Street, Queen Victoria Road, Claremont Road, A167, A167 (Ponteland RD) & Exit the A1 on junction 77 then via the A1 to the normal route it will operate via the same route in both directions
Buses will serve all stops on the new route (however will not serve moorhead towards Newcastle)

X11, X15, X22, X12 (X30) : Rerouted via: via St Thomas Street, Queen Victoria Road, Claremont Road, A167, Stamfordham Road then access the A1 from junction 76 then normal route from the A1
Buses will operate this route in both directions
Buses will serve all stops on the new route (however will not serve moorhead towards Newcastle)

RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
(21 Jul 2021, 11:35 pm)GNE6312 Wrote: First suggestion:

X30 made to run every 30 minutes all day including the Bebside extension, this will also be numbered to X12 to be in line with the other Blyth to Newcastle expresses so it goes X7-X12

To try ease delays on the expresses I'm proposing an additional 2 routes out of Newcastle for the expresses which will see a split.

Services X9: Stick to current route

X10, X20, X21, X18, X14 : Rerouted between Newcastle & the first stop after the A19 via the following route: via St Thomas Street, Queen Victoria Road, Claremont Road, A167, A167 (Ponteland RD) & Exit the A1 on junction 77 then via the A1 to the normal route it will operate via the same route in both directions
Buses will serve all stops on the new route (however will not serve moorhead towards Newcastle)

X11, X15, X22, X12 (X30) : Rerouted via: via St Thomas Street, Queen Victoria Road, Claremont Road, A167, Stamfordham Road then access the A1 from junction 76 then normal route from the A1
Buses will operate this route in both directions
Buses will serve all stops on the new route (however will not serve moorhead towards Newcastle)

The point of the expresses running through Gosforth is for a connection at the Regent Centre, if you don't want to serve anything you'd be better running the Blyth expresses via the X7/X8 route into Newcastle as it's the shortest route and you'd get stuck at Cowgate and on the A1 which are both bad at rush hour and no worse than the X7/X8 bottlenecks.

RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
(21 Jul 2021, 11:47 pm)Storx Wrote: The point of the expresses running through Gosforth is for a connection at the Regent Centre, if you don't want to serve anything you'd be better running the Blyth expresses via the X7/X8 route into Newcastle as it's the shortest route and you'd get stuck at Cowgate and on the A1 which are both bad at rush hour and no worse than the X7/X8 bottlenecks.
I've been thinking about past suggestions I've made.

Funnily enough, I've been thinking perhaps a half hourly 'fast' Ashington to Newcastle service (X19 introduced from Newbiggin alongside X20) would work with the following route from North Seaton:

North Seaton *Non stop* > Eastfield > High Pit > Annitsford *Non stop* > Barras Bridge & Haymarket

Obviously would lose link to and from Gosforth & Regent Centre but time saved running more direct via A189 would simply be re-allocated to the three places mentioned. Would also allow changes to replace the X8 & X9 in parts.