Tender Discussion Thread
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Has Go North East been awarded the 33/33A again? Who has been awarded the 13? So far only the 84/84A has changed operator in Newcastle. GCT have been awarded lots of contacts in North Tyneside.

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(03 Feb 2020, 2:23 pm)OrangeArrow49 Wrote: Has Go North East been awarded the 33/33A again? Who has been awarded the 13? So far only the 84/84A has changed operator in Newcastle. GCT have been awarded lots of contacts in North Tyneside.
CToG have kept it

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(05 Jan 2020, 6:46 pm)Dan Wrote: I understand this group of services is being put out to tender again.



Any of the services which weren't listed in my previous post have had their contracts extended.

Anyone have the new 335 contract document they could share.

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Nexus have issued the invitation to tender for Miscellaneous Workings / School Services with a contract start date of 1st September 2020 for a duration of 12 months. Euro 4 vehicles with a capacity of 44, 60 or 84 are specified.

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Another interesting opportunity to appear is this one.

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(05 Jan 2020, 7:12 pm)Dan Wrote: Whilst on the subject of contracts, Nexus have also invited operators to tender for a number of services in May.

Tender award will be weighted as follows:
- 90% price
- 7% provision of Euro 6 or greater emissions
- 3% provision of enhanced customer experience (Wi-Fi, Next Stop Announcements, etc).


Services 68, 92, 927, 937, 93A, 83A
1x Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36, that does not exceed 8.9m in length



Services 81/82/83/84
3x Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36, Mon-Sun evenings



Services 85/86
2x Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36, Mon-Sun evenings



Service 168
1x Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23, that does not exceed 8.5m in length, Mon-Sat.



Service 516
1x Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36, Mon-Sat
Four tenders were received for this procurement with the contract awarded to Central Taxis of Gateshead on a contract value of £455,628.34 excluding VAT.

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An interesting one has appeared on NEPO. 

Would love to know what they're thinking or looking at. 
Nissan? Doxford Park?

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(26 Mar 2020, 10:39 am)Andreos1 Wrote: An interesting one has appeared on NEPO. 

Would love to know what they're thinking or looking at. 
Nissan? Doxford Park?

I was at a conference a while back, where expansion of the Tyne & Wear Metro to Follingsby Park and onward to Nissan was discussed.

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(26 Mar 2020, 10:39 am)Andreos1 Wrote: An interesting one has appeared on NEPO. 

Would love to know what they're thinking or looking at. 
Nissan? Doxford Park?
Part of the Metro Flow Project some information in the link below.
https://www.railwaygazette.com/projects-...72.article

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(05 Mar 2020, 9:01 am)GuyParkRoyal Wrote: Four tenders were received for this procurement with the contract awarded to Central Taxis of Gateshead on a contract value of £455,628.34 excluding VAT.

Are these still going ahead in May?

(01 Mar 2020, 4:50 pm)GuyParkRoyal Wrote: Nexus have issued the invitation to tender for Miscellaneous Workings / School Services with a contract start date of 1st September 2020 for a duration of 12 months. Euro 4 vehicles with a capacity of 44, 60 or 84 are specified.

Any news on these?, or have these been stopped too?
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(01 Mar 2020, 4:50 pm)GuyParkRoyal Wrote: Nexus have issued the invitation to tender for Miscellaneous Workings / School Services with a contract start date of 1st September 2020 for a duration of 12 months. Euro 4 vehicles with a capacity of 44, 60 or 84 are specified.

Any news on these??
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

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https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...l-18396702

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(15 Jun 2020, 1:58 pm)Rob44 Wrote: https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...l-18396702

I'm all for  “adding unnecessary delays and complexity”, if it brings passengers the sort of service passengers in Reading have.
Reading Transport of course being Martijns former stomping ground and a division of Reading Council.

The levels of funding and subsidy may be higher than they've ever been, yet the operators are more than willing to do their very best Oliver Twist impression when taking it. 

Dunno about you, but I'm getting a bit fed up of it.
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(15 Jun 2020, 1:58 pm)Rob44 Wrote: https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...l-18396702


A bit more info than just a link:

Bus bosses hit back at calls for North East councils to take control over routes and ticket prices.

Gateshead Council leader Martin Gannon complained that the bus industry has become almost entirely public-funded, but local authorities continued to have minimal say over services


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I honestly don't get what they're complaining about.
Do the councils want control over the businesses that took part in the furlough scheme as well?
Do they want part of the airlines that were also 'bailed out' during this crisis?

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why would they want part of the airlines? Do the local authorities mentioned in the news artical give money to the airlines to to fly specific routes???

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(15 Jun 2020, 3:00 pm)Rob44 Wrote: why would they want part of the airlines? Do the local authorities mentioned in the news artical give money to the airlines to to fly specific routes???

But, correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't the additional money that the bus operators have received comes from central government rather from the local councils?
So using the argument that they're receiving money from government to want control locally is a bit silly.

The councils do have control over the tendered routes, which is what they're paying for.

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(15 Jun 2020, 3:28 pm)streetdeckfan Wrote: But, correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't the additional money that the bus operators have received comes from central government rather from the local councils?
So using the argument that they're receiving money from government to want control locally is a bit silly.

The councils do have control over the tendered routes, which is what they're paying for.

Nexus, Northumberland County Council and Durham County Council continue to maintain concessionary fare and tendered bus service payments to bus operators at pre-pandemic levels as a result of a government request.

This quote from Tobyn Hughes puts it in to some perspective. 
Quote:“Prior to the Covid-19 crisis, 61% of funding came from passenger fares, 33% from local authorities and 6% from central government. Since the emergency funding measures were put in place, only 5% comes from passenger fares, 54% from local authorities and 42% from central government.”

Indeed, payments for the four weeks from 17 March were based on an average of the operator’s four-weekly commercial BSOG live kilometres operated in 2017/18. The DfT then used an assumed service level of 50% during the period that the first payment will cover, and the initial pence per kilometre rate, to calculate the first sum to be transferred to the operator.

Rightly or wrongly, operators have a slightly bigger begging bowl at the moment and if their network reduced in the period since 2017/18, they clicked big style
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(17 Jun 2020, 12:23 pm)Andreos1 Wrote: Nexus, Northumberland County Council and Durham County Council continue to maintain concessionary fare and tendered bus service payments to bus operators at pre-pandemic levels as a result of a government request.

This quote from Tobyn Hughes puts it in to some perspective. 
So they haven't actually increased the amount, it's just the fact that passenger fares have decreased has increased the proportion (and only temporarily) that local authorities contribute.

It'd be interesting to see how this proportion changes over the next few weeks with passenger numbers starting to increase

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(17 Jun 2020, 12:30 pm)streetdeckfan Wrote: So they haven't actually increased the amount, it's just the fact that passenger fares have decreased  has increased the proportion (and only temporarily) that local authorities contribute.

It'd be interesting to see how this proportion changes over the next few weeks with passenger numbers starting to increase

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Does the pre-0930 acceptance of passes not lead to increased payments like?
This condition placed up on the LA's as a result of the CBSSG, is just one example of the amount increasing.
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