North East Buses

6048 front window has been smashed at the front. A black slip is over it only minor.

When will Tyne Tees Express B9's start to go for a repaint?

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(14 Aug 2017, 9:33 pm)S813 FVK wrote [ -> ]30 (Dennis Trident + Volvo B7TL) - might only be 29, depending on whether 3890 has actually been withdrawn yet.

Thanks, not many, can see all of them gone by end of the year, we know a few will be withdrawn after the likes of the Metro replacement is finished etc. 




I would think 19 will be replaced by the 19 new buses for the Angel (not confirmed)
7 replaced by the new Gem 3 buses for the X9/X10 

That's 26, plus the ones which will get withdrawn after the metro replacement etc is finished.

(15 Aug 2017, 9:08 am)Michael wrote [ -> ]When will Tyne Tees Express B9's start to go for a repaint?

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Thanks, not many, can see all of them gone by end of the year, we know a few will be withdrawn after the likes of the Metro replacement is finished etc. 




I would think 19 will be replaced by the 19 new buses for the Angel 
7 replaced by the new Gem 3 buses for the X9/X10 

That's 26, plus the ones which will get withdrawn after the metro replacement etc is finished.

Has that been confirmed or is it just speculation?

(15 Aug 2017, 9:42 am)Dans_bus_photos wrote [ -> ]Has that been confirmed or is it just speculation?

Not been confirmed but the way people are talking, it seems likely.

The only thing that I have read that could suggest that new buses are coming for the Angel is that the 5 year period on the 21, as requested by the Green Bus Fund, ends next month. That doesn't necessarily mean that new buses are on their way either.

(15 Aug 2017, 10:17 am)S813 FVK wrote [ -> ]The only thing that I have read that could suggest that new buses are coming for the Angel is that the 5 year period on the 21, as requested by the Green Bus Fund, ends next month. That doesn't necessarily mean that new buses are on their way either.

But Dan did say that 1 angel would be repainted to green black to promote night service....

(15 Aug 2017, 11:06 am)JP6004 wrote [ -> ]But Dan did say that 1 angel would be repainted to green black to promote night service....

Yes that's right, I forgot about that.

There does seem to be a delay in doing that though. Could they focusing on other repaint programmes at the moment (e.g. Tyne Valley Ten)?

Couple more tagline updates:

6122 - 'Stay connected': https://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/35...otostream/
6128 - '35 million miles': https://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/35...otostream/

The big reveal...
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/x9-x10/

(15 Aug 2017, 2:32 pm)S813 FVK wrote [ -> ]The big reveal...
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/x9-x10/

Was somebody on acid pills when there designed that livery?.

There need to change the via points as Dalton park is between peterlee and Newcastle and not Newcastle, peterlee, Dalton park then Middlesbrough. Has GNE sorted the X6/X7 via points out aswell as it's still has peterlee , Dalton park then Hartlepool coming from Sunderland .

Someone who works for GNE on here need to tell their commercial department the mistake before there screw up the Via points and also the mistake on the X6/X7 brand


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(15 Aug 2017, 2:32 pm)S813 FVK wrote [ -> ]The big reveal...
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/x9-x10/

I think it looks really smart............love the table decals 

(15 Aug 2017, 2:41 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]Was somebody on acid pills when there designed that livery?.

There need to change the via points as Dalton park is between peterlee and Newcastle and not Newcastle, peterlee, Dalton park then Middlesbrough. Has GNE sorted the X6/X7 via points out aswell as it's still has peterlee , Dalton park then Hartlepool coming from Sunderland .

Someone who works for GNE on here need to tell their commercial department the mistake before there screw up the Via points and also the mistake on the X6/X7 brand


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I don't see the issue regarding the X9/X10 branding?

X9: Newcastle, Peterlee, Middlesbrough
X10: Newcastle, Dalton Park, Middlesbrough

I have not included the A19 sliproad as Peterlee - it is barely that to be honest. 'for Peterlee' might more appropriate. Likewise, Evenings and Sundays are pretty insignificant.

On another note, the pink feature symbol (previously seatbelts) has returned. This time it is for contactless.

I agree with the X6/X7 though, Peterlee and Dalton Park need to be swapped over.

(15 Aug 2017, 2:41 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]Was somebody on acid pills when there designed that livery?.

There need to change the via points as Dalton park is between peterlee and Newcastle and not Newcastle, peterlee, Dalton park then Middlesbrough. Has GNE sorted the X6/X7 via points out aswell as it's still has peterlee , Dalton park then Hartlepool coming from Sunderland .

Someone who works for GNE on here need to tell their commercial department the mistake before there screw up the Via points and also the mistake on the X6/X7 brand


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It does seem a little strange to order them in that way. My expectation as a customer would always be to see the via points in geographic order, so my first thought when seeing Peterlee before Dalton Park was to question whether it is correct...

I'm quite looking forward to it serving Dalton Park, and I just hope it gets some use.

(15 Aug 2017, 2:32 pm)S813 FVK wrote [ -> ]The big reveal...
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/x9-x10/

Looks smart.

(15 Aug 2017, 5:35 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Looks smart.

That must be your shortest post 

(15 Aug 2017, 5:35 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Looks smart.

(15 Aug 2017, 5:42 pm)JP6004 wrote [ -> ]That must be your shortest post 

And not a question in sight either 

I got told at the 500 group tour when i went to riverside there was 7 gemani 3s for X9/X10 and 19 Streetdecks

When the new timetable for the X9/X10 comes into force, this service will no longer be subject to E.U. rules, and as such, will not need tachographs. Each journey will be split into two, so that each half falls withinthe 50km rule for domestic rules.  The X9 was never a problem as there was a natural half way point at Peterlee.  However, the X10 was different and did not have a natural half way point.  By including Dalton Park on the X10 there is now a natural break. What this means is that each journey from Newcastle to Middlesbrough is actually two journeys, using one bus.  The same applies for the return.  This is a work around for being able to use domestic rules instead of EU rules. There will be no need for a dedicated EU Rota at Riverside Depot, buses will not need tachograph, meaning that breakdowns can be covered much easier and allocation of duties will be simplified.  Arriva have been using this system on the X12 and 685for a while now.

(15 Aug 2017, 6:17 pm)a718abb wrote [ -> ]When the new timetable for the X9/X10 comes into force, this service will no longer be subject to E.U. rules, and as such, will not need tachographs. Each journey will be split into two, so that each half falls withinthe 50km rule for domestic rules.  The X9 was never a problem as there was a natural half way point at Peterlee.  However, the X10 was different and did not have a natural half way point.  By including Dalton Park on the X10 there is now a natural break. What this means is that each journey from Newcastle to Middlesbrough is actually two journeys, using one bus.  The same applies for the return.  This is a work around for being able to use domestic rules instead of EU rules. There will be no need for a dedicated EU Rota at Riverside Depot, buses will not need tachograph, meaning that breakdowns can be covered much easier and allocation of duties will be simplified.  Arriva have been using this system on the X12 and 685for a while now.

The rota for X9/X10 is going to remain as stand alone (with domestic rules applied).

Looks like the X9 and X10 will now interwork with each other at each end.

The buggy policy has also been changed, meaning pushchairs will no longer need to be folded down while travelling.

(15 Aug 2017, 6:24 pm)citaro5284 wrote [ -> ]The rota for X9/X10 is going to remain as stand alone (with domestic rules applied).

I think that's a good idea to use the current drivers who have knowledge of the route and diversions, which they will undoubtedly need when the A19 is blocked.

I am with cbma with the livery.
At first I thought it was a glitch with the image opening on my phone!
It was only after refreshing the page a couple of times that I realised it wasn't!

(15 Aug 2017, 6:36 pm)a718abb wrote [ -> ]I think that's a good idea to use the current drivers who have knowledge of the route and diversions, which they will undoubtedly need when the A19 is blocked.

I'm a fan of the stop a Dalton Park. It is something that I think should have been done a while ago. The potential (if marketed right - including ticketing options and timed to work with connecting services) is massive.

However, like with the X21, the stop instantly reduces flexibility. Particularly when the A19 is blocked.
Prior to these changes, a diversion via South Hetton and the A182 through to Houghton was an option. It was used too.
Whilst the South Hetton/A182 is still an option. Continuing through to Houghton isn't. Or at least not without going via Murton to Dalton Park and back out.

It would be interesting to see any reports that collated any diversions and how many times a diversion has been used.

The A19 is a nightmare road for all vehicles that use it, no more so than the X9/X10.  On paper, the concept of running a service between Newcastle and Middlesbrough with just a few stops on the way is am good one.  Indeed, it is quicker than Northern Rail, which goes through Sunderland and Hartlepool, and in that respect, GNE have the advantage. But the practicalities of running the service at peak times, causes major problems for time keeping.  This situation is only going to get worse, owing to the forthcoming major roadworks upgrading Testos roundabout and Downhill Lane Interchange on the A19. There is really no workaround.

Looks like some thought has gone into this new livery, the shapes suit the angles of the Streetdeck body much better than curves sit on the X21s.

Are we to assume 'Journeys taken care of' is a new slogan?

(15 Aug 2017, 9:14 pm)James101 wrote [ -> ]Looks like some thought has gone into this new livery, the shapes suit the angles of the Streetdeck body much better than curves sit on the X21s.

Are we to assume 'Journeys taken care of' is a new slogan?

Never assume, it makes an ass out of u and me

(15 Aug 2017, 6:31 pm)S813 FVK wrote [ -> ]Looks like the X9 and X10 will now interwork with each other at each end.

The buggy policy has also been changed, meaning pushchairs will no longer need to be folded down while travelling.

Interwork at Middlesbrough only.

(15 Aug 2017, 9:46 pm)park5354 wrote [ -> ]Interwork at Middlesbrough only.

With regard to the buggy policy, the three existing TTX vehicles which are to be rebranded as Tyne Valley Ten will need to have two downstairs sears taken out to accomodate a buggy bay, or they will not be very popular along the Ryton corridor with parents and buggies going to the Metro centre.

(15 Aug 2017, 6:17 pm)a718abb wrote [ -> ]When the new timetable for the X9/X10 comes into force, this service will no longer be subject to E.U. rules, and as such, will not need tachographs. Each journey will be split into two, so that each half falls withinthe 50km rule for domestic rules.  The X9 was never a problem as there was a natural half way point at Peterlee.  However, the X10 was different and did not have a natural half way point.  By including Dalton Park on the X10 there is now a natural break. What this means is that each journey from Newcastle to Middlesbrough is actually two journeys, using one bus.  The same applies for the return.  This is a work around for being able to use domestic rules instead of EU rules. There will be no need for a dedicated EU Rota at Riverside Depot, buses will not need tachograph, meaning that breakdowns can be covered much easier and allocation of duties will be simplified.  Arriva have been using this system on the X12 and 685for a while now.

Drivers not limited to 4 1/2 hrs driving before needing a break.

With the X9/X10 being put under domestic rules, if extra drivers were needed, would experienced drivers who drive the Tens be called for due to experience veing needed to handle the deckers in challenging conditions?

I don't believe the TENs fall under any special requirements. I've seen the same drivers hop between 27s/94s/10s etc over many days. I think they'd just stick to LDs rather than anything new.

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