(11 Jul 2020, 10:24 pm)mb134 wrote [ -> ]Absolutely this. It's unlikely (though I perhaps should have made that clearer), but infrequent bus users often simply look for where they want to go, see whichever bus is first then get on that.
Over the years, the amount of times I've seen people catch an X21/2 to Ashington over the X20 because the X21/2 leaves 2-3 minutes earlier is too many to count. I've steered them the right way if I've noticed in time (if I've overhead their conversation!), but all too often I'd get off the X20 then 10 minutes later they'll get off the X21/2. (Note that this was just as frequent in pre-Sapphire days where there generally was no internal spec difference either)
But if you go down that route then you might aswell serve John Dobson Street and take Megabus customers. The Megabus is cheaper than the X9/X10 between Newcastle and Middlesbrough for a single and quicker as it's non-stop...
(11 Jul 2020, 10:32 pm)streetdeckfan wrote [ -> ]What's the price difference between the two services? I can imagine them timing the more expensive journey first to get more passenger to take that!
It's also why I hate the Durham timetable so much, even if we forget about the fact they're so confusing to understand, they don't tell you how long a journey takes. Two services could go to the same place and you'd have no clue which one would get there first! Whereas with the Nexus timetables, they have the key stops listed with the journey time underneath
I'd imagine with both you'd get the Northumberland + TW All Zones day ticket which is about £7.50 - the stages of Ashington Bus Station and Haymarket would be the same so there'd be no difference in the price of a single I don't imagine (and the day ticket always works out better value than a return!).
One of the (very) few Nexus things I actually think they get right are those timetables - it's a bit of a shame that they're often not looked at at all, and not copied by everyone else!
How about St Thomas Street, then right onto Percy Street and normal route from there for southbound services. Likewise coming into Newcastle, along John Dobson Street, St Marys Place, then along to the Hancock Museum, left there, up to the RVI, around the block so its pointing the right way ready to leave.
People could wait in either Haymarket or Eldon Sq until the service is due in bad weather then just a short walk.
In Response to the X9/X10 moving from eldon square.
Are the coaches bigger than the old ones from the X2/X23 or even X9 a few years ago?
Were the arriva coaches ever allocated to the 685 since the bus station changed?
(13 Jul 2020, 9:46 am)ASX_Terranova wrote [ -> ]In Response to the X9/X10 moving from eldon square.
Are the coaches bigger than the old ones from the X2/X23 or even X9 a few years ago?
Were the arriva coaches ever allocated to the 685 since the bus station changed?
Yes, much bigger. These are tri-axle 15m interdeck coaches.
(13 Jul 2020, 12:35 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]Yes, much bigger. These are tri-axle 15m interdeck coaches.
What's that, an extra Corsa on the length of a StreetDeck?
(13 Jul 2020, 12:40 pm)streetdeckfan wrote [ -> ]What's that, an extra Corsa on the length of a StreetDeck?
Half the length again, most double decks are in the region of 10m
A significant number of passengers catching the X9 are for Peterlee so they will be left pretty much out in the cold.
What's happened to Peterlee and the X9 ? Have I missed something ?
(17 Jul 2020, 1:36 pm)scanialover wrote [ -> ]What's happened to Peterlee and the X9 ? Have I missed something ?
I think they're referring to the fact X9/X10 is moving out of Eldon Square, so it won't be sheltered in the winter
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Whatever happens it's going to be as hard manoeuvring one of these coaches wherever they go. Peterlee has a tight turning circle and an awkward reverse; Dalton Park I would say is tricky. Going to be interesting.
(17 Jul 2020, 1:56 pm)scanialover wrote [ -> ]Whatever happens it's going to be as hard manoeuvring one of these coaches wherever they go. Peterlee has a tight turning circle and an awkward reverse; Dalton Park I would say is tricky. Going to be interesting.
Rear steering, have driven the mk1 levante on NX, actually getting into Leeds coach station and for that matter getting out of Sammy's (vic drop off) is a damn site easier with a tri-axle than the normal size coaches, peterlee in my opinion will not cause any issues.
(17 Jul 2020, 3:00 pm)Stanleyone wrote [ -> ]Rear steering, have driven the mk1 levante on NX, actually getting into Leeds coach station and for that matter getting out of Sammy's (vic drop off) is a damn site easier with a tri-axle than the normal size coaches, peterlee in my opinion will not cause any issues.
Most definitely. As has been stated by Dan, there should be absolutely no issue with any other section of the route in terms of the coaches.
Again for reference, the ones in Aberdeen manage the tight left turn from Union Street to Market Street without issue - I can't think of any places tighter than that on the X9/X10.
(17 Jul 2020, 3:17 pm)mb134 wrote [ -> ]Most definitely. As has been stated by Dan, there should be absolutely no issue with any other section of the route in terms of the coaches.
Again for reference, the ones in Aberdeen manage the tight left turn from Union Street to Market Street without issue - I can't think of any places tighter than that on the X9/X10.
Appreciate they're not city centre roads, but the coaches used on 10 gets round some of the roads with ease on its route. One that stands out are the housing estates west of Nairn.
I might have mentioned in the past, that Gloucester Green isn't the biggest bus station in the world. I think the only thing it has over Peterlee or Eldon Square, is that it never seems as busy.
I reckon as said earlier St Mary's Place would be a good pick up point as well as Newgate Street.
(17 Jul 2020, 4:05 pm)L469 YVK wrote [ -> ]I reckon as said earlier St Mary's Place would be a good pick up point as well as Newgate Street.
Newgate St bus station would have been perfect!
Don't think the diners of Lau's would be too keen if it came back though!
(17 Jul 2020, 4:34 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]Newgate St bus station would have been perfect!
Don't think the diners of Lau's would be too keen if it came back though!
It pretty much is now, albeit on the opposite side of the road. That's where all buses bound for eldon square terminate and wait time.
Just dropping back to this thread for a moment. What is matter with the 63xx deckers that are supposed to be allocated on the X9/10? 6334/5 are regular performers, 6044 does it and 5278 was leaving Middlesbrough on an X9 a short while ago.
(22 Jul 2020, 1:42 pm)scanialover wrote [ -> ]Just dropping back to this thread for a moment. What is matter with the 63xx deckers that are supposed to be allocated on the X9/10? 6334/5 are regular performers, 6044 does it and 5278 was leaving Middlesbrough on an X9 a short while ago.
Looks to me as though 5278 was put on in Gateshead at 8am to replace 6312 which failed on its first trip this morning. 6334/5 are on in place of 6308/9 which are both not out today.
Looks like 6309 was dragged off half way through the day on Monday, which ironically only had two branded buses make it all the way through the day, when they finished up with 6312/4 out alongside 5277 5322 5498 6076 6334 and 6335.
(22 Jul 2020, 2:28 pm)tyresmoke wrote [ -> ]Looks to me as though 5278 was put on in Gateshead at 8am to replace 6312 which failed on its first trip this morning. 6334/5 are on in place of 6308/9 which are both not out today.
Looks like 6309 was dragged off half way through the day on Monday, which ironically only had two branded buses make it all the way through the day, when they finished up with 6312/4 out alongside 5277 5322 5498 6076 6334 and 6335.
Sooner they get onto the X21 the better then.....should keep one member of this forum happy
