First 2025 change has appeared on VOSA:

PB0003954/1453
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 50S (50S) Chester-le-Street Durham
Date received 29 Nov 2024
Effective date 06 Jan 2025

Actually found it on Bustimes - https://bustimes.org/services/50s-washin...eet-waldri

1 run a day from Chester-le-street to Durham

(30 Nov 2024, 2:45 pm)Michael wrote First 2025 change has appeared on VOSA:

PB0003954/1453
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 50S (50S) Chester-le-Street Durham
Date received 29 Nov 2024
Effective date 06 Jan 2025

Actually found it on Bustimes - https://bustimes.org/services/50s-washin...eet-waldri

1 run a day from Chester-le-street to Durham

The main changes normally happen towards the end of January.

(30 Nov 2024, 2:45 pm)Michael wrote First 2025 change has appeared on VOSA:

PB0003954/1453
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 50S (50S) Chester-le-Street Durham
Date received 29 Nov 2024
Effective date 06 Jan 2025

Actually found it on Bustimes - https://bustimes.org/services/50s-washin...eet-waldri

1 run a day from Chester-le-street to Durham

I believe that this currently runs as a duplicate to the normal 50 service.

(30 Nov 2024, 10:50 pm)busmanT wrote I believe that this currently runs as a duplicate to the normal 50 service.

Ah right, thanks for the info!

(30 Nov 2024, 10:50 pm)busmanT wrote I believe that this currently runs as a duplicate to the normal 50 service.

Doesn't it currently start at washington? (the dupe isn't showing on bustimes for some reason)

A very busy trip, and has been for some years, as the 50 passes through a large part of the catchment area for St. Leonard's in Durham. Also picks up a decent number for Durham Sixth Form Centre. Not unknown for that run to be full and standing from Waldridge Park.

Announcement soon, watch this Space!!

(Yesterday, 5:05 pm)Retro Nero wrote Announcement soon, watch this Space!!

In what sense. Them being on vosa or announced by Go North East

(Yesterday, 5:56 pm)Aaron21 wrote In what sense. Them being on vosa or announced by Go North East

I mentioned something in service suggestion page, sorry, should have put it on this page.

(Yesterday, 6:16 pm)Retro Nero wrote I mentioned something in service suggestion page, sorry, should have put it on this page.

With these changes are u shocked at some of them or will some of them shock the passengers and us

(Yesterday, 5:05 pm)Retro Nero wrote Announcement soon, watch this Space!!

When will these changes will take place?, if announcement is soon, 5th January?

Wonder if GNE have finally seen the sense to restore the X9 in these sets of changes?

R.e.....I'd imagine any changes wouldn't happen until either the 19th or 26th January.

Wonder if these are commercial changes or batshit crazy BSIP funded nonsense

(10 hours ago)L469 YVK wrote Wonder if GNE have finally seen the sense to restore the X9 in these sets of changes?

R.e.....I'd imagine any changes wouldn't happen until either the 19th or 26th January.

It doesn't need to return. The x10 has been around for 2 nearly 3 years (I think). There's no need to bring it back. If the X10 was made every 30 minutes it would work better. Idk why people have this idea of restore the X9 will help in anyway. Even if the X9 came back what would it solve. A split frequency again which nobody wants. Honestly I think the X1 needs to be rerouted to serve Dalton Park & Peterlee via the A19 as why introduced it back then and then cut it. It would save the 61 being actually used along that section. 55 was cut cause of the X1 going that way. Now u have the X1 & 61 serve more if not the same way to Peterlee and it's daft. 

Anyways the X9 doesn't need to return. People have gotten used to the X10 and won't need the confusing of "which one serves Dalton & Which one serves Peterlee". Hell putting it lightly the X1 picks up more passengers on the Peterlee journeys. 

Also the X1 & X10 imo shouldn't use the same stand at Eldon. The queue is massive and u don't know which people are waiting for which

(8 hours ago)Aaron21 wrote It doesn't need to return. The x10 has been around for 2 nearly 3 years (I think). There's no need to bring it back. If the X10 was made every 30 minutes it would work better. Idk why people have this idea of restore the X9 will help in anyway. Even if the X9 came back what would it solve. A split frequency again which nobody wants. Honestly I think the X1 needs to be rerouted to serve Dalton Park & Peterlee via the A19 as why introduced it back then and then cut it. It would save the 61 being actually used along that section. 55 was cut cause of the X1 going that way. Now u have the X1 & 61 serve more if not the same way to Peterlee and it's daft. 

Anyways the X9 doesn't need to return. People have gotten used to the X10 and won't need the confusing of "which one serves Dalton & Which one serves Peterlee". Hell putting it lightly the X1 picks up more passengers on the Peterlee journeys. 

Also the X1 & X10 imo shouldn't use the same stand at Eldon. The queue is massive and u don't know which people are waiting for which

The X10 should be just a short bus from Newcastle to Peterlee only. It's the main part of the route and would only need 2 buses, heck it actually wouldn't be bad use of BSIP funds as it's never been every 30 minutes to Peterlee and it's within the NECA area - unlike Middlesbrough.

The 55 should be restored aswell imo, at least as far as Hetton. The timings are ridiculous on the 35 right now, 50 minutes from Hetton to Sunderland direct is totally unacceptable for the distance and it's not like it's going to somewhere people don't go around there. Not to mention it would fill the gap on the 20/X20.

(8 hours ago)Aaron21 wrote It doesn't need to return. The x10 has been around for 2 nearly 3 years (I think). There's no need to bring it back. If the X10 was made every 30 minutes it would work better. Idk why people have this idea of restore the X9 will help in anyway. Even if the X9 came back what would it solve. A split frequency again which nobody wants. Honestly I think the X1 needs to be rerouted to serve Dalton Park & Peterlee via the A19 as why introduced it back then and then cut it. It would save the 61 being actually used along that section. 55 was cut cause of the X1 going that way. Now u have the X1 & 61 serve more if not the same way to Peterlee and it's daft. 

Anyways the X9 doesn't need to return. People have gotten used to the X10 and won't need the confusing of "which one serves Dalton & Which one serves Peterlee". Hell putting it lightly the X1 picks up more passengers on the Peterlee journeys. 

Also the X1 & X10 imo shouldn't use the same stand at Eldon. The queue is massive and u don't know which people are waiting for which

But if the X10 was re-increased to half-hourly throughout the full route, it would need a PVR of 8x....although perhaps a short could run between Peterlee and Newcastle to make that section half-hourly, but would still need a PVR of 6x (which was the original X9/X10 PVR before the 2017 increase).

But any increases on the X10 (or re-introduction of X9) would definitely need changes to the X30s/X70s and X45 (reducing the low bridge PVR) to ensure there's enough suitable vehicles available which could handle the route. Or some of the current X30/X70 boards changed to single deckers.

Other option would be shifting 2x E400MMC from Consett (leaving 14x) and allocating B5TLs to the X45 with the X20 eventually getting some 51/2/93/4 / TVT / Cobalt B9TLs from the Angel cascade chain. Would still give 6377 as spare covering a PVR of 6x on the X10 if half hourly Newcastle to Peterlee, but Consett would struggle to keep a full decker allocation on the X30s/X70s especially given 6337's track record.