(22 Feb 2022, 1:37 pm)Andreos1 wrote Well there is that... But it tended to be the patter they used when a vaguely useful new service was introduced and then withdrawn a few months later. 
Just wondered whether the X22 was classed as experimental too.

It's hardly a new service though is it? The experimental phase must ended well over a decade ago. I'm surprised it has lasted this long to be honest.

(22 Feb 2022, 2:02 pm)MurdnunoC wrote It's hardly a new service though is it? The experimental phase must ended well over a decade ago. I'm surprised it has lasted this long to be honest.

That paint mustn't have worked its magic!

(22 Feb 2022, 2:09 pm)Andreos1 wrote That paint mustn't have worked its magic!

I wonder how much longer Arriva's Gateshead to Metrocentre service will last?

(22 Feb 2022, 2:19 pm)MurdnunoC wrote I wonder how much longer Arriva's Gateshead to Metrocentre service will last?

For as long as they keep feeding their drivers raw meat.

Its still on the list of Go North Easts services

Assuming the suspension is temporary and not "temporary" I wouldn't be surprised if they're now holding off until resources are freed up at the end of March.

It looks like similar has happened to the X62. Still listed on the website but no timetable (even though it's mentioned in PDF timetables for the 62/X6). Very odd given I haven't seen anything regarding either route in service change updates.
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/services/GNE/X62

Difference is, X62 is listed on Nexus' website, but the X22 isn't.

(24 Feb 2022, 11:41 am)F114TML wrote It looks like similar has happened to the X62. Still listed on the website but no timetable (even though it's mentioned in PDF timetables for the 62/X6). Very odd given I haven't seen anything regarding either route in service change updates.
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/services/GNE/X62

Difference is, X62 is listed on Nexus' website, but the X22 isn't.

X62 only runs school time. Therefore it won't be on this week.

(24 Feb 2022, 11:43 am)Omega54 wrote X62 only runs school time. Therefore it won't be on this week.

D'oh! Keep forgetting about that

Well, in any case the X22's been removed from the website now.

A couple more candidates for repaint then.

(24 Feb 2022, 2:27 pm)ne14ne1 wrote A couple more candidates for repaint then.

They're Euro 4 just withdraw them

(24 Feb 2022, 2:27 pm)ne14ne1 wrote A couple more candidates for repaint then.

Why would they be repainted? The X22 is temporarily suspended, and has not been permanently withdrawn, unless someone has seen something published on the Go North East website that I haven’t?

While the driver shortage is ongoing, it makes no sense to bring back the X22 for the relatively small number of customers that use it.


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(24 Feb 2022, 2:31 pm)Omega54 wrote They're Euro 4 just withdraw them

I don’t think there are any plans to withdraw 3941-43/62-65.

They are provisional specification, have recently been fitted with Wi-Fi and next stop announcements, and are presumably better to keep than older Scania OmniDekkas or ex-London dual-door Volvo B7s of a similar age.


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(24 Feb 2022, 3:20 pm)Dan wrote Why would they be repainted? The X22 is temporarily suspended, and has not been permanently withdrawn, unless someone has seen something published on the Go North East website that I haven’t?

While the driver shortage is ongoing, it makes no sense to bring back the X22 for the relatively small number of customers that use it.


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A member of the customer services team on twitter responded to a passenger asking if the service was 'cancelled for good' saying that the service was 'withdrawn'. While you could say it was temporarily 'withdrawn', that wording in response to that particular query certainly made it sound like it would not be returning.

(24 Feb 2022, 3:26 pm)peter wrote A member of the customer services team on twitter responded to a passenger asking if the service was 'cancelled for good' saying that the service was 'withdrawn'. While you could say it was temporarily 'withdrawn', that wording in response to that particular query certainly made it sound like it would not be returning.

I would suggest if a permanent cancellation hasn’t been posted on the website, the customer services team have used a poor choice of words or have misinformed the customer (after all, once the X9 was permanently cancelled, this was posted on the website).


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Definitely a poor choice of words then.

It might be beneficial, therefore, to say on the website that it's being temporarily suspended, rather than just quietly remove all mention of it.

This is the actual tweet, btw.
https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1...4868166657

(24 Feb 2022, 4:55 pm)F114TML wrote It might be beneficial, therefore, to say on the website that it's being temporarily suspended, rather than just quietly remove all mention of it.

This is the actual tweet, btw.
https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1...4868166657

To be fair it is probably more confusing/doesnt add value for anyone to include reference to a service that isn't running.  Same approach is taken with seasonal services like ToonTour, and indeed Stagecoach 100 if searching the timetables section for that currently. Admittedly, the tweet clearly suggests it has been permanently withdrawn and as the only official GNE comment on the subject means it isn't surprising people may conclude it's permanently gone, however.

(24 Feb 2022, 3:28 pm)Dan wrote I would suggest if a permanent cancellation hasn’t been posted on the website, the customer services team have used a poor choice of words or have misinformed the customer (after all, once the X9 was permanently cancelled, this was posted on the website).


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I think the customer has unintentionally become an ill-informed bystander due to the information given to them by the customer service team.

(24 Feb 2022, 3:20 pm)Dan wrote Why would they be repainted? The X22 is temporarily suspended, and has not been permanently withdrawn, unless someone has seen something published on the Go North East website that I haven’t?

While the driver shortage is ongoing, it makes no sense to bring back the X22 for the relatively small number of customers that use it.


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is that not the reason services have been withdrawn commercially in North Tyneside