Mainly the Tynedale Links changes have appeared on VOSA today: however the 6 has appeared again - with a route and timetable change along with the 836 on one. 


PB0003954/444 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Hexham, Whetstone Bridge Road and Newbrough, Church Lane given service number 804 effective from 11-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/470 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Hexham Rail Station and Allenheads Heritage Centre given service number 688 effective from 11-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/631 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Hexham Bus Station and Bellingham Heritage Centre given service number 680 effective from 11-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/632 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Hexham Highford Park and Colwell given service number 682 effective from 11-Oct-2015.

PB0003954/648 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Stanley Bus Station and Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station given service number 6/836 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0003954/658 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Bedlington Station, Clayton Arms
Finish Point: Linton, First Row
Via:
Service Number: 434
Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 11-OCT-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday (exept public holidays)

PB0003954/659 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Guide Post, Cleaswell Hill
Finish Point: Bedlington Station, Clayton Arms
Via:
Service Number: 448
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 11-OCT-2015
Other Details: Monday to Friday (Schooldays only)

PB0003954/660 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Alston, Townhead
Finish Point: Haltwhistle, Railway Station
Via:
Service Number: 681
Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 11-OCT-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday (except public holidays)

PB0003954/661 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Hexham, Highford Park
Finish Point: Acomb, The Pant Water Trough
Via:
Service Number: 682
Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 11-OCT-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday (except public holidays)

PB0003954/662 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Hexham, Bus Station
Finish Point: Haydon Bridge, Whitfield
Via:
Service Number: X81
Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 11-OCT-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday (except public holidays)

PB0003954/657 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Haltwhistle, Railway Station
Finish Point: Gilsland, Main Road ( Bridge Hotel)
Via:
Service Number: 185
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 11-OCT-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday (except public holidays)

The 836 it is a scholars service for Tanfield School. It is a service that operates now.

(24 Sep 2015, 3:10 pm)S813 FVK wrote Why is the 6/836 in bold?

If it is for the 836 - it is a scholars service for Tanfield School. It is a service that operates now.

Just because its the only one which isn't changing on the 11th October, it saves everyone looking for the 6/836, sorry should of being clearer on the post.

(24 Sep 2015, 2:58 pm)Michael wrote PB0003954/658 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Bedlington Station, Clayton Arms
Finish Point: Linton, First Row
Via:
Service Number: 434
Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 11-OCT-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday (exept public holidays)

PB0003954/659 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Guide Post, Cleaswell Hill
Finish Point: Bedlington Station, Clayton Arms
Via:
Service Number: 448
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 11-OCT-2015
Other Details: Monday to Friday (Schooldays only)

Interworking?

448 looks strange, already got 2 services running down there connecting Morpeth, Ashington, Blyth, Newcastle etc.

Will the 434 interwork with the 19?

The 1221 and 1421 from Bedlington terminate at Ashington, then there's a 1300 and 1427 departure to Linton.
https://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/72138.3

(24 Sep 2015, 3:31 pm)GX03 SVC wrote Will the 434 interwork with the 19?

The 1221 and 1421 from Bedlington terminate at Ashington, then there's a 1300 and 1427 departure to Linton.
https://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/72138.3

I'm going to hazard a guess, no. Judging by the timetable it looks as though it will be the same bus all day, I'm guessing the gap in service at Ashington may be for a drivers break or something like that.

(24 Sep 2015, 3:31 pm)GX03 SVC wrote Will the 434 interwork with the 19?

The 1221 and 1421 from Bedlington terminate at Ashington, then there's a 1300 and 1427 departure to Linton.
https://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/72138.3

How would that work? There are no changes being made to the 19, so there would be nothing to operate the return departures?

According to the very reliable jackdriver15:

Some of the changes coming 25th October
New service 6 replaces 43/44 Stanley to Newcastle via Annfield Plain Dipton Tantobie Burnopfield Sunniside Kingsway Whickam Metrocentre
New service 16/16A replaces. 43/44 to Durham, 16 also replaces current V8 to Consett/Castleside running through from Durham
New services V7/V8 replace X43 to Metrocentre and replace 706/707 locally in Stanley
X30 rerouted to Whickam and Dunston
X30/X31 will now run every 15mins
New service X32 Stanley to Newcastle via Ouston, Kibblesworth and Team Valley to Newcastle, morning and afternoon peak times only
V1 on Sunday withdrawn, replaced by new Sunday service15A every hour to Durham via Delves
45/46 are being reorganised to drop an extra bus in so longer layovers can be taken at Consett to help when they run late.

Most of them we already know about, bus the X30 is interesting...

(24 Sep 2015, 3:46 pm)Tom wrote According to the very reliable jackdriver15:

Some of the changes coming 25th October
New service 6 replaces 43/44 Stanley to Newcastle via Annfield Plain Dipton Tantobie Burnopfield Sunniside Kingsway Whickam Metrocentre
New service 16/16A replaces. 43/44 to Durham, 16 also replaces current V8 to Consett/Castleside running through from Durham
New services V7/V8 replace X43 to Metrocentre and replace 706/707 locally in Stanley
X30 rerouted to Whickam and Dunston
X30/X31 will now run every 15mins
New service X32 Stanley to Newcastle via Ouston, Kibblesworth and Team Valley to Newcastle, morning and afternoon peak times only
V1 on Sunday withdrawn, replaced by new Sunday service15A every hour to Durham via Delves
45/46 are being reorganised to drop an extra bus in so longer layovers can be taken at Consett to help when they run late.

Most of them we already know about, bus the X30 is interesting...

I sense that these changes have been wrongly posted on the public domain. Especially as Dan refused to mention the X66 change when asked because hey havent been posted on the website. Hence why i asked the question.

(24 Sep 2015, 3:46 pm)Tom wrote According to the very reliable jackdriver15:

Some of the changes coming 25th October
New service 6 replaces 43/44 Stanley to Newcastle via Annfield Plain Dipton Tantobie Burnopfield Sunniside Kingsway Whickam Metrocentre
New service 16/16A replaces. 43/44 to Durham, 16 also replaces current V8 to Consett/Castleside running through from Durham
New services V7/V8 replace X43 to Metrocentre and replace 706/707 locally in Stanley
X30 rerouted to Whickam and Dunston
X30/X31 will now run every 15mins
New service X32 Stanley to Newcastle via Ouston, Kibblesworth and Team Valley to Newcastle, morning and afternoon peak times only
V1 on Sunday withdrawn, replaced by new Sunday service15A every hour to Durham via Delves
45/46 are being reorganised to drop an extra bus in so longer layovers can be taken at Consett to help when they run late.

Most of them we already know about, bus the X30 is interesting...

Bloody hell, that's a long route, if its true of course.... where was this post, if you don't mind Tom?  

(24 Sep 2015, 3:53 pm)Tom wrote It was on Dans photo of 3964 with the Cider advert.

Also on Davies photo of the E400 (the photo that i confronted him about the posting of the changes before the GNE press release).

(24 Sep 2015, 3:52 pm)Michael wrote Bloody hell, that's a long route, if its true of course.... where was this post, if you don't mind Tom?  

It's on Dans photo of 3963: https://www.flickr.com/photos/danielgrah...otostream/

(24 Sep 2015, 3:46 pm)Tom wrote According to the very reliable jackdriver15:

Some of the changes coming 25th October
New service 6 replaces 43/44 Stanley to Newcastle via Annfield Plain Dipton Tantobie Burnopfield Sunniside Kingsway Whickam Metrocentre
New service 16/16A replaces. 43/44 to Durham, 16 also replaces current V8 to Consett/Castleside running through from Durham
New services V7/V8 replace X43 to Metrocentre and replace 706/707 locally in Stanley
X30 rerouted to Whickam and Dunston
X30/X31 will now run every 15mins
New service X32 Stanley to Newcastle via Ouston, Kibblesworth and Team Valley to Newcastle, morning and afternoon peak times only
V1 on Sunday withdrawn, replaced by new Sunday service15A every hour to Durham via Delves
45/46 are being reorganised to drop an extra bus in so longer layovers can be taken at Consett to help when they run late.

Most of them we already know about, bus the X30 is interesting...

If we take the X32 as an example at peak times. I'm assuming this would be instead of X30, which may explain the X97 to replace that part of the route? Being a 97/97a during the day

(24 Sep 2015, 3:54 pm)S813 FVK wrote Also on Davies photo of the E400 (the photo that i confronted him about the posting of the changes before the GNE press release).

He needs to be careful, i don't think GNE will be happy about drivers telling him info.

Also: New services V7/V8 replace X43 to Metrocentre and replace 706/707 locally in Stanley

Guess i was right, if that info is correct...

(24 Sep 2015, 3:54 pm)Tom wrote It's on Dans photo of 3963: https://www.flickr.com/photos/danielgrah...otostream/

Cheers

(24 Sep 2015, 3:52 pm)Michael wrote Bloody hell, that's a long route, if its true of course.... where was this post, if you don't mind Tom?  

Probably not as long as it seems, depending on the route it takes.

If it goes direct via the A693 to Pelton Roundabout, it will take approximately the same amount of time as it takes to Sunniside. Traffic is usually queued on the A6076 due to the traffic lights at Sunniside, so this may avoid some of the congestion there.

Going through Ouston is pretty direct until the roundabout at the bottom of the hill is reached. It'll be interesting to see which route it takes from there. Usually, buses turn right towards Birtley, however, if the bus continues ahead it'll end up intersecting the road between Birtley and Kibby. There are a couple of tight corners on the road and it does narrow in parts but I imagine a smaller bus would be able to manage without any major problems. There won't be much traffic going up the bank to Kibby, or back down to Lamesley Roundabout, but it may encounter a tailback between Lamesley and the Coal House Roundabout. Going through Team Valley should be relatively congestion free as traffic is flowing in the opposite direction.

At peak times, journey time will probably be slightly longer but, bearing in mind what I said about Sunniside as well as the build-up of traffic around Lobley Hill (which often causes tailbacks to Watergate Bank), it won't be by much.

(24 Sep 2015, 4:33 pm)MurdnunoC wrote Probably not as long as it seems, depending on the route it takes.

If it goes direct via the A693 to Pelton Roundabout, it will take approximately the same amount of time as it takes to Sunniside. Traffic is usually queued on the A6076 due to the traffic lights at Sunniside, so this may avoid some of the congestion there.

Going through Ouston is pretty direct until the roundabout at the bottom of the hill is reached. It'll be interesting to see which route it takes from there. Usually, buses turn right towards Birtley, however, if the bus continues ahead it'll end up intersecting the road between Birtley and Kibby. There are a couple of tight corners on the road and it does narrow in parts but I imagine a smaller bus would be able to manage without any major problems. There won't be much traffic going up the bank to Kibby, or back down to Lamesley Roundabout, but it may encounter a tailback between Lamesley and the Coal House Roundabout. Going through Team Valley should be relatively congestion free as traffic is flowing in the opposite direction.

At peak times, journey time will probably be slightly longer but, bearing in mind what I said about Sunniside as well as the build-up of traffic around Lobley Hill (which often causes tailbacks to Watergate Bank), it won't be by much.

The Versa's on the 34/34a use the road past Bewick Main when running NIS between the valley and Urpeth.
You are right about it being tight in places like.

One point that hasn't been mentioned, if this peak time bus is calling in Kibby. Is this at the expense of an existing service or as well as?

Other news:

Closure of the A1231 between Nissan Way and the A19 roundabout - 30 September

Date: 24 Sep 2015

There will be a westbound closure of the A1231 between Nissan Way and the A19 roundabout between 8pm and 6am on the nights of Wednesday 30 September and Thursday 1 October.

During these closures, Service 50A towards Washington ONLY will be diverted via A1018 Downhill Lane, Nissan main entrance, Cherry Blossom Way, Nissan Way then Waterview Park as normal.

South Shields bound journeys are unaffected.

(24 Sep 2015, 4:45 pm)Andreos1 wrote The Versa's on the 34/34a use the road past Bewick Main when running NIS between the valley and Urpeth.
You are right about it being tight in places like.

One point that hasn't been mentioned, if this peak time bus is calling in Kibby. Is this at the expense of an existing service or as well as?

28A?

This is what I can see happening with the X30/X31/X32 and X97.

X30 - Newcastle - Central Station - Dunston - Whickham - Sunniside - Stanley (every 30 minutes, off-peak times, replacing 98/98A to Dunston)
X31 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Lobley Hill - Sunniside - Stanley (every 30 minutes)
X32 - Newcastle - Team Valley - Kibblesworth - Ouston - Stanley (every 30 minutes peak times)
X97 - Newcastle - Whickham express (every 30 minutes, peak times)

(24 Sep 2015, 4:48 pm)Tom wrote 28A?

Exactly.

If it is staying, then there is potential overkill through Ouston.
If it is going, then early morning links, are removed.

My gut instinct, is that the X32 will operate something similar to the old 709 or 728 route from Stanley to Ouston, but follow the 28a route between Ouston and Kibby.
Granted it would be slower than the route MurdunoC suggested, but it would mean the peak 28a's can go - but links aren't lost.

Has there been a VOSA registration for the 28/28A?

(24 Sep 2015, 5:15 pm)citaro5284 wrote Has there been a VOSA registration for the 28/28A?

Yes, though this is effective from 1st November 2015 (so not associated with the changes to services X30/X31 which are effective from the Sunday prior).

That should put an end to that speculation, eh?

(24 Sep 2015, 5:15 pm)citaro5284 wrote Has there been a VOSA registration for the 28/28A?

There could of with how bad VOSA is.

(24 Sep 2015, 5:15 pm)citaro5284 wrote Has there been a VOSA registration for the 28/28A?

Yes the 28/28A is, it says "to amend timetable" from 1st November.

(24 Sep 2015, 5:07 pm)Andreos1 wrote Exactly.

If it is staying, then there is potential overkill through Ouston.
If it is going, then early morning links, are removed.

My gut instinct, is that the X32 will operate something similar to the old 709 or 728 route from Stanley to Ouston, but follow the 28a route between Ouston and Kibby.
Granted it would be slower than the route MurdunoC suggested, but it would mean the peak 28a's can go - but links aren't lost.

(24 Sep 2015, 5:15 pm)citaro5284 wrote Has there been a VOSA registration for the 28/28A?

There hasn't but there is still a few to go anyway I think?

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(24 Sep 2015, 5:18 pm)Jimmi wrote Yes the 28/28A is, it says "to amend timetable" from 1st November.

Aye I think that's for Beamish though.

(24 Sep 2015, 5:15 pm)citaro5284 wrote Has there been a VOSA registration for the 28/28A?

Apart from the one discussed previously, no.
If my gut instinct is wrong and the peak 28/28a's aren't being withdrawn/changed - that gives a canny little frequency on the Ouston - Kibby - Newcastle section.

It also means Ouston sees at least 3 buses an hour to/from Newcastle.
Not too bad at all!

About time for a 28 to run via the old 739/740 route between Chester le Street and Newfield I think.

(24 Sep 2015, 3:54 pm)S813 FVK wrote Also on Davies photo of the E400 (the photo that i confronted him about the posting of the changes before the GNE press release).

Now posting it on several photos. I feel like he is just wanting the attention now...

I don't like some of the changes if i have to be honest. I think that they'll be inconvenient for some customers too.

(24 Sep 2015, 8:52 pm)S813 FVK wrote Now posting it on several photos. I feel like he is just wanting the attention now...

I don't like some of the changes if i have to be honest. I think that they'll be inconvenient for some customers too.

But not on my photos, I feel so left out!

This is the thing with service changes, sometimes they can be an improvement to some but an inconvenience to others, another example being me with the upcoming changes to the Arriva X66(X67) the people who board the X66 on the North Road - Great Burdon section of the route will go down from a 20 minute service to a half hourly service whereas the people who board at Darlington Town Centre, Stockton and Middlesbrough get an increase of frequency from every 20 minutes to every 15 minutes.