Although Streetlites aren't the best, they do a decent job and although not a fan of lightweight deckers like the B5TL and Streetdeck, the Streetlite is fairly decent.

Even more so, due to the good fuel econony, the Streetlite can even be a game changer. Take a look at this:

- Stagecoach 22 has taken some passengers away from the Coaster.

- GNE then run it every 20 between Wrekenton and North Shields and every 20 between Gateshead and Whitley Bay using Streetlites creating a 10 minute frequency between Gateshead and Shields. The fuel savings then balance out some of the extra wage bills and cost of the extra vehicles required and even help recoup some of the passengers taken by Stagecoach.

P.S not saying Stagecoach has taken passengers away but if they did, then the above proves a point. Mind you though, the loads on the 22/22x are nothing compared to the Clippers and the X6.

Christmas Baubles Competition

http://www.simplygo.com/christmascomp

Edit:

 Winner will receive an Angel model bus (worth £38.99).
- One entry per person; anyone found to be using multiple accounts will be ineligible.
- Competition closes at midday on Monday 7 December 2015.
- The winner will be contacted directly via e-mail. 
- Prize will be posted to UK addresses only.
- Losing entries will not receive any notification.
- No cash alternative is offered.

Just noticed on the GNE site, they have a section for maps now:

http://www.simplygo.com/networkmaps/

Another tale of GNE not known their services on a Sunday:


Any ideas why the 8 from Pelton is 14mins late and counting?

Go North East: Apologies for the delays Martin. Have you since been able to travel?

Waited half an hour and decided it was too cold for my son to be standing at bus stops waiting for your busses so went home.

Go North East Apologies for this Martin.

(06 Dec 2015, 3:07 pm)Michael wrote Another tale of GNE not known their services on a Sunday:


Any ideas why the 8 from Pelton is 14mins late and counting?

Go North East: Apologies for the delays Martin. Have you since been able to travel?

Waited half an hour and decided it was too cold for my son to be standing at bus stops waiting for your busses so went home.

Go North East Apologies for this Martin.

You'd expect the customer to know that the 8 doesn't run on a Sunday, if they can tell that the service in question is 14 minutes late... Not sure how this is an example of Go North East not knowing their services though?

(06 Dec 2015, 3:18 pm)R852 PRG wrote You'd expect the customer to know that the 8 doesn't run on a Sunday, if they can tell that the service in question is 14 minutes late... Not sure how this is an example of Go North East not knowing their services though?

Surely at the point of the first enquiry, you'd point out that the 8 doesn't run, and try and establish which service the customer is actually intending to use? 

Apologising for the delays, on a service that isn't even scheduled to operate, is pretty poor.

(06 Dec 2015, 3:23 pm)Adrian wrote Surely at the point of the first enquiry, you'd point out that the 8 doesn't run, and try and establish which service the customer is actually intending to use? 

Apologising for the delays, on a service that isn't even scheduled to operate, is pretty poor.

Point taken.

(06 Dec 2015, 3:18 pm)R852 PRG wrote You'd expect the customer to know that the 8 doesn't run on a Sunday, if they can tell that the service in question is 14 minutes late... Not sure how this is an example of Go North East not knowing their services though?

Well because:

Apologies for the delays Martin. Have you since been able to travel?

Then:

Apologies for this Martin.

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To me that says the person running the Facebook page today, doesnt know the 8 doesnt run on a Sunday.

Although the person asking should know it doesnt run on a Sunday.... it doesnt help that the person on GNE Facebook page doesn't know it either.

StreetDeck 9119 seems to have been on the TEN's for at least the last two days.

(06 Dec 2015, 6:47 pm)Jimmi wrote StreetDeck 9119 seems to have been on the TEN's for at least the last two days.

I seen it yesterday morning at around 07:45am in Eldon Square blinded up for a 10 to Hexham.

Dose anyone know when X35 will get new buses

(06 Dec 2015, 8:07 pm)jaimzm wrote Dose anyone know when X35 will get new buses

Not sure whether it's even in the thought process yet, but I'd think it would be come a time that the Crusader gets an upgrade. That'll displace 13x Mercs, and Fast Cats would require 10x.

(06 Dec 2015, 8:12 pm)Adrian wrote Not sure whether it's even in the thought process yet, but I'd think it would be come a time that the Crusader gets an upgrade. That'll displace 13x Mercs, and Fast Cats would require 10x.

I would happily take the mercs to get rid of these scania wouldn't be to bad if X35 had WiFi om it anything will be better thn what we got now

(06 Dec 2015, 8:07 pm)jaimzm wrote Dose anyone know when X35 will get new buses

Not for a while yet I would say Probs sometime in 2017 providing the crusader gets new vehicles more than likely Streetdeck but we will see in the future

(06 Dec 2015, 8:07 pm)jaimzm wrote Dose anyone know when X35 will get new buses

Hopefully after the 20's have got something decent.

(06 Dec 2015, 10:44 pm)Andreos1 wrote Hopefully after the 20's have got something decent.

20s will Probs end up getting streetdecks the scanias could replace older vehicles in the fleet but I quiet like the eclipse 3 version lovely bus trailed on 20 not too long ago wouldn't mind seeing them and some on 27 in fact 27 does suit these but I can see an upgrade to 97/97A sometime soon

(06 Dec 2015, 11:13 pm)Diamond One wrote 20s will Probs end up getting streetdecks the scanias could replace older vehicles in the fleet but I quiet like the eclipse 3 version lovely bus trailed on 20 not too long ago wouldn't mind seeing them and some on 27 in fact 27 does suit these but I can see an upgrade to 97/97A sometime soon

If the 20/20A got deckers, it won't be this year...

I don't think they'll get deckers at all, i think they'll get Streetlites, if they ever got new buses.

Have to remember double deckers are more expensive, they'll need at least 20 and then a couple of spares for the route.

But the 20/20A is a busy route so you never know.

(07 Dec 2015, 12:24 am)Michael wrote If the 20/20A got deckers, it won't be this year...

I don't think they'll get deckers at all, i think they'll get Streetlites, if they ever got new buses.

Have to remember double deckers are more expensive, they'll need at least 20 and then a couple of spares for the route.

But the 20/20A is a busy route so you never know.

I also think the 20/20A would not get double deckers anytime soon as I don't think it is busy enough to justify double deckers most of the time, usually when I have used the 20/20A you will leave Park Lane you can have a few standees but usually only as far as Barnes Park or Sunderland College, I think it can be fairly busy at peak times although I haven't used it much at these times. There is also the amount buying around 20 double deckers would cost, especially if you kit it out with WiFi, next stop announcements and stuff. I think if the 20/20A was going to get double deckers, GNE would have maybe trialled the StreetDeck on there but considering a single decker (Volvo B8RLE) Was trialled, I would assume if the 20/20A is upgraded soon, it would most likely be single deckers.

(07 Dec 2015, 1:02 am)Jimmi wrote I also think the 20/20A would not get double deckers anytime soon as I don't think it is busy enough to justify double deckers most of the time, usually when I have used the 20/20A you will leave Park Lane you can have a few standees but usually only as far as Barnes Park or Sunderland College, I think it can be fairly busy at peak times although I haven't used it much at these times. There is also the amount buying around 20 double deckers would cost, especially if you kit it out with WiFi, next stop announcements and stuff. I think if the 20/20A was going to get double deckers, GNE would have maybe trialled the StreetDeck on there but considering a single decker (Volvo B8RLE) Was trialled, I would assume if the 20/20A is upgraded soon, it would most likely be single deckers.

Another point is: 

I don't think they'll want to drop the frequancy of the 20/20A either if it became double decker (just suggesting it, might no happen), if they do it means each service could become every 30 minutes on certain parts of the route (every 15 minutes on parts of it). It might work because it will be double decker ran but i don't think GNE will do that.

I'll say Streetlites for it.

At least the 20 scania's can replace rest of the Cadets and some of the B10's.

(07 Dec 2015, 1:22 am)Michael wrote Another point is: 



I don't think they'll want to drop the frequancy of the 20/20A either if it became double decker (just suggesting it, might no happen), if they do it means each service could become every 30 minutes on certain parts of the route (every 15 minutes on parts of it). It might work because it will be double decker ran but i don't think GNE will do that.



I'll say Streetlites for it.



At least the 20 scania's can replace rest of the Cadets and some of the B10's.

They did that to the Diamond got Deckers and reduced frequency.

(07 Dec 2015, 1:02 am)Jimmi wrote I also think the 20/20A would not get double deckers anytime soon as I don't think it is busy enough to justify double deckers most of the time, usually when I have used the 20/20A you will leave Park Lane you can have a few standees but usually only as far as Barnes Park or Sunderland College, I think it can be fairly busy at peak times although I haven't used it much at these times. There is also the amount buying around 20 double deckers would cost, especially if you kit it out with WiFi, next stop announcements and stuff. I think if the 20/20A was going to get double deckers, GNE would have maybe trialled the StreetDeck on there but considering a single decker (Volvo B8RLE) Was trialled, I would assume if the 20/20A is upgraded soon, it would most likely be single deckers.

To be fair, there must only be a handful of services across the region that can justify deckers at all points of the day.

Some prime routes like the X1 or 56 could possibly get away with Solo's at certain times, due to the low numbers using those quieter runs.

I saw an X1 Newcastle bound the other day, carrying fresh air.

(07 Dec 2015, 1:22 am)Michael wrote Another point is: 

I don't think they'll want to drop the frequancy of the 20/20A either if it became double decker (just suggesting it, might no happen), if they do it means each service could become every 30 minutes on certain parts of the route (every 15 minutes on parts of it). It might work because it will be double decker ran but i don't think GNE will do that.

I'll say Streetlites for it.

At least the 20 scania's can replace rest of the Cadets and some of the B10's.

Please don't say that.
Imagine the rattles on the fast sections of the route?

But to join in with the game of vehicle suggestions for the 20's, I propose the Van Hool Astromega TDX21.
With WiFi, plug sockets, at seat entertainment and a complementary trolley service, served by scantily clad staff.
Hey, I want value for money for my £4.10 fare!

On a route like the 27 or 56, the frequency can be dropped by a minute or two, due to route being a 'whole'. It doesn't split like the 20's do.
So out of a PVR of 12, 6 will be on a 20, with the balance on a 20a.
This maintains the 10min headway on common sections.
I think there may be another floating somewhere due to the way the timetable is set up.

I am not sure a combined 15 min frequency would work as efficiently, if it did get deckers.
If you have a larger vehicle, then it is going to take longer to load/unload at key destinations too. Particularly if you are merging the equivalent of two bus loads on to the larger bus (4 hourly deps vs 6).

(07 Dec 2015, 7:29 am)Andreos1 wrote To be fair, there must only be a handful of services across the region that can justify deckers at all points of the day.

Some prime routes like the X1 or 56 could possibly get away with Solo's at certain times, due to the low numbers using those quieter runs.

I saw an X1 Newcastle bound the other day, carrying fresh air.


Please don't say that.
Imagine the rattles on the fast sections of the route?

But to join in with the game of vehicle suggestions for the 20's, I propose the Van Hool Astromega TDX21.
With WiFi, plug sockets, at seat entertainment and a complementary trolley service, served by scantily clad staff.
Hey, I want value for money for my £4.10 fare!

On a route like the 27 or 56, the frequency can be dropped by a minute or two, due to route being a 'whole'. It doesn't split like the 20's do.
So out of a PVR of 12, 6 will be on a 20, with the balance on a 20a.
This maintains the 10min headway on common sections.
I think there may be another floating somewhere due to the way the timetable is set up.

I am not sure a combined 15 min frequency would work as efficiently, if it did get deckers.
If you have a larger vehicle, then it is going to take longer to load/unload at key destinations too. Particularly if you are merging the equivalent of two bus loads on to the larger bus (4 hourly deps vs 6).

It won't work, they're better off sticking with single deckers wether that is streetlites or the B8RLE.... or the current scania's.

(07 Dec 2015, 7:36 am)Michael wrote It won't work, they're better off sticking with single deckers wether that is streetlites or the B8RLE.... or the current scania's.

The suggestions are getting worse!

(07 Dec 2015, 7:56 am)Andreos1 wrote The suggestions are getting worse!

Oh you!!! 

!

Go North East

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(07 Dec 2015, 7:56 am)Andreos1 wrote The suggestions are getting worse!

from what i have been told gne getting 20 streetlites for service 20 wether its true or not am not 100% but i would of thought deckers be better

(07 Dec 2015, 8:37 am)jaimzm wrote from what i have been told gne getting 20 streetlites for service 20 wether its true or not am not 100% but i would of thought deckers be better

I've also heard that, wouldn't be surprised, i think the 20/20A is one of those services which deserve new buses...


If so... 20+ spares (2?):


Means at least 20 Scania's can replace:

Cadet - 12
B10's - 8-10 (Depending on spares)


I think they'll stick with the Merit's as they're Euro 5 and are younger than the B10's.

or 

All of the remaining Cadets and Merits - 18) and at least 2-4 B10's.

(07 Dec 2015, 8:37 am)jaimzm wrote from what i have been told gne getting 20 streetlites for service 20 wether its true or not am not 100% but i would of thought deckers be better

Sounds like the stuff of nightmares that like.
Definitely think my suggestion would be more popular.

(07 Dec 2015, 9:18 am)Andreos1 wrote Sounds like the stuff of nightmares that like.
Definitely think my suggestion would be more popular.

i dont know i use the X35 everday dont get me wrong the scania on their they are good yes but they are getting old and rattles alot but what bus dosen't but whenever i use it or see it gose past my house hartlepool to peterlee its full get to peterlee half of them get off then even more get on to go sunderland 70% of the people that get on end up standing from Hartlepool to peterlee and streetdecker would be a great decker for the service

The X35 which has just left Park Lane is standing room only.... not sure if its because its 9:30am.