Once the Prince Bishop Streetlites arrive, I would like to see :-

8302 to Washington (SouthTyne)
8303 to Washington (GNE red)
8304 to Riverside (GNE red)
8305 to Riverside (S1 branded)

4932, 4933, 4935 & 4936 to CLS. Replacements for 8302-5. (LAMBTON WORM withdrawn)
5203 to CLS. 

4937, 4942, 4943, 4945 & 4946 to Riverside. Replacements for 5167-71.

5204-09 to Percy Main (GNE red), replacing 4912/13/14/15/16/17.
5211-16 to Percy Main (GNE red with Centurion Logos), replacing 5152/3/4/5/7/66.

4954 & 4989-92 repainted Red for X36.

4912/13/14/15/16/17 to Riverside to replace 4897/98/99/4900/01/02.
4924/25 to Riverside (replacements for 4932/33)
5217 to Riverside (replacement for 4964)

4964 to Deptford (replacement for 5217).


4903-06 withdrawn 
4911 to Stanley to replace 4896.
4968-72 repainted GNE red (replacing 4903-07).

Summary 

4896-4906, 5152/3/4/5/7/5166-71 withdrawn. (22)

5420-39 Prince Bishops (20)
5440/1 GNE red (2)

X36 no longer Fast Cats.
34/34A no Longer Lambton Worm.
 
4907-10 Deptford
4911 Stanley
4912-25 Riverside

4926-36 CLS
4937-49 Riverside
4954/55 Deptford
4956-60 CLS
4961-63 Washington
4964/65 Deptford
4967 Riverside
4968-76 Deptford

5201-03 CLS
5204-09 Percy Main
5210 Hexham
5211-16 Percy Main
5217-28 Riverside
5229-33 Hexham

8294-03 Washington
8304/05 Riverside
8306-09 Deptford
8310-18 Riverside
8319-27 Deptford
8328-38 Riverside

(30 Jan 2016, 7:52 pm)park5354 wrote Once the Prince Bishop Streetlites arrive, I would like to see :-

8302 to Washington (SouthTyne)
8303 to Washington (GNE red)
8304 to Riverside (GNE red)
8305 to Riverside (S1 branded)

4932, 4933, 4935 & 4936 to CLS. Replacements for 8302-5. (LAMBTON WORM withdrawn)
5203 to CLS. 

4937, 4942, 4943, 4945 & 4946 to Riverside. Replacements for 5167-71.

5204-09 to Percy Main (GNE red), replacing 4912/13/14/15/16/17.
5211-16 to Percy Main (GNE red with Centurion Logos), replacing 5152/3/4/5/7/66.

4954 & 4989-92 repainted Red for X36.

4912/13/14/15/16/17 to Riverside to replace 4897/98/99/4900/01/02.
4924/25 to Riverside (replacements for 4932/33)
5217 to Riverside (replacement for 4964)

4964 to Deptford (replacement for 5217).


4903-06 withdrawn 
4911 to Stanley to replace 4896.
4968-72 repainted GNE red (replacing 4903-07).

Summary 

4896-4906, 5152/3/4/5/7/5166-71 withdrawn. (22)

5420-39 Prince Bishops (20)
5440/1 GNE red (2)

X36 no longer Fast Cats.
34/34A no Longer Lambton Worm.
 
4907-10 Deptford
4911 Stanley
4912-25 Riverside

4926-36 CLS
4937-49 Riverside
4954/55 Deptford
4956-60 CLS
4961-63 Washington
4964/65 Deptford
4967 Riverside
4968-76 Deptford

5201-03 CLS
5204-09 Percy Main
5210 Hexham
5211-16 Percy Main
5217-28 Riverside
5229-33 Hexham

8294-03 Washington
8304/05 Riverside
8306-09 Deptford
8310-18 Riverside
8319-27 Deptford
8328-38 Riverside

My prediction is
4945/46 replace 4903/04
4954 replace 8258
4968-72 replace 8261-65 at Washington
4989-92 replace 4905-08
5204 replaces 4909
5211-12 replaces 8270/71
5213-17 replaces 8267-69/72/73
4910/11/24/25 will remain for the 38 or spare bus

Why would Go North East pay to have the Renown's made DDA - Compliant only to withdraw them after a few months?

(31 Jan 2016, 6:47 pm)Davie wrote Why would Go North East pay to have the Renown's made DDA - Compliant only to withdraw them after a few months?

My thought exactly.

(31 Jan 2016, 6:47 pm)Davie wrote Why would Go North East pay to have the Renown's made DDA - Compliant only to withdraw them after a few months?

Don't know just a Suggestion
What buses would you replace?

(31 Jan 2016, 6:49 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote Don't know just a Suggestion
What buses would you replace?

Cadet's and Merit's which I belive are getting withdrawn this year.

(31 Jan 2016, 6:52 pm)Davie wrote Cadet's and Merit's which I belive are getting withdrawn this year.

The Merits were only updated to Euro 5 last January so not sure they would be withdrawn.

I would say the Cadets and the duel door B10s.

(31 Jan 2016, 6:47 pm)Davie wrote Why would Go North East pay to have the Renown's made DDA - Compliant only to withdraw them after a few months?

Because they'd have buses that weren't DDA compliant on the road now otherwise. Making them DDA will probably make it easier for them to be sold to operators for further service.

(31 Jan 2016, 6:47 pm)Davie wrote Why would Go North East pay to have the Renown's made DDA - Compliant only to withdraw them after a few months?

Because otherwise they would be short of vehicles for months...if they were withdrawn before 1/1/2016

(31 Jan 2016, 7:02 pm)GX03 SVC wrote Because otherwise they would be short of vehicles for months...if they were withdrawn before 1/1/2016

Or they could of got the new buses in December.

Am not saying what are the cascades are til they happen and which buses will move where or get sold to until it happens

(31 Jan 2016, 7:07 pm)DanPicken wrote Or they could of got the new buses in December.

It may of costed alot so they DDA them

(31 Jan 2016, 7:07 pm)DanPicken wrote Or they could of got the new buses in December.

Not always possible, besides even if they had ordered buses to be expected to be delivered in December 2015, there would be no guarantee that they would actually have been delivered or be fit for the road in time the DDA deadline.

Is it the Lolyne's which aren't DDA?

I can't remember if its them or the Plaxton ones... haha

(31 Jan 2016, 6:57 pm)Michael wrote The Merits were only updated to Euro 5 last January so not sure they would be withdrawn.

I would say the Cadets and the duel door B10s.

I think Merit's only have a 12 year life span (Please feel free to correct me).

(31 Jan 2016, 7:00 pm)Jimmi wrote Because they'd have buses that weren't DDA compliant on the road now otherwise. Making them DDA will probably make it easier for them to be sold to operators for further service.

(31 Jan 2016, 7:02 pm)GX03 SVC wrote Because otherwise they would be short of vehicles for months...if they were withdrawn before 1/1/2016

But my point is, why pay for them to be DDA Compliant then withdraw them?

(31 Jan 2016, 7:11 pm)Michael wrote Is it the Lolyne's which aren't DDA?

I can't remember if its them or the Plaxton ones... haha

Olympians and lolynes aren't DDA

(31 Jan 2016, 7:12 pm)Davie wrote I think Merit's only have a 12 year life span (Please feel free to correct me).

But my point is, why pay for them to be DDA Compliant then withdraw them?

Without PSVAR modifications they would be illegal to use in service!

(31 Jan 2016, 7:12 pm)Davie wrote I think Merit's only have a 12 year life span (Please feel free to correct me).

I think they do but it seems daft to withdraw them a year after they were fitted with Euro 5 modifications.

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(31 Jan 2016, 7:13 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote Olympians and lolynes aren't DDA

Thought it was the Lolynes, cheers

(31 Jan 2016, 7:14 pm)GX03 SVC wrote Without PSVAR modifications they would be illegal to use in service!

If merits are to be leaving a prediction for the s1 a mini e200. Or if loadings are high a larger version possibly e200mmc

(31 Jan 2016, 7:14 pm)GX03 SVC wrote Without PSVAR modifications they would be illegal to use in service!

I know that.

(31 Jan 2016, 7:15 pm)Michael wrote I think they do but it seems daft to withdraw them a year after they were fitted with Euro 5 modifications.

I see your point.

(31 Jan 2016, 7:12 pm)Davie wrote I think Merit's only have a 12 year life span (Please feel free to correct me).

But my point is, why pay for them to be DDA Compliant then withdraw them?

If they can't get a new batch of vehicles in, then upgrading what they have (even at a cost) is better than no vehicles at all - or a fine.

(31 Jan 2016, 7:16 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote If merits are to be leaving a prediction for the s1 a mini e200. Or if loadings are high a larger version possibly e200mmc

That'll be on next years orders - as this years are already confirmed.


I do hope GNE go for the Enviro in future.

(31 Jan 2016, 7:16 pm)Davie wrote I know that.

But you can't see the point in why Go North East made them DDA, the new buses still aren't even built yet and probably won't be on the road for months yet, so because of this the B10 Renown's either had to be made DDA or Go North East would have no buses to use on their services so they'd either have to illegally use buses which would be stupid, withdraw services so all their buses are DDA or fork out some money to make the buses DDA complaint which means the buses are legal now we are past the deadline. Like I said earlier, making them DDA will possibly additionally make it easier for them to be sold on for further service with new operators when their time is up at GNE whereas if they weren't DDA the operator would probably have to pay to make the buses DDA themselves or they'd walk away and buy something that is DDA.

(31 Jan 2016, 7:26 pm)Jimmi wrote But you can't see the point in why Go North East made them DDA, the new buses still aren't even built yet and probably won't be on the road for months yet, so because of this the B10 Renown's either had to be made DDA or Go North East would have no buses to use on their services so they'd either have to illegally use buses which would be stupid, withdraw services so all their buses are DDA or fork out some money to make the buses DDA complaint which means the buses are legal now we are past the deadline. Like I said earlier, making them DDA will possibly additionally make it easier for them to be sold on for further service with new operators when their time is up at GNE whereas if they weren't DDA the operator would probably have to pay to make the buses DDA themselves or they'd walk away and buy something that is DDA.

I know what your saying, but why get rid of them when they can be continue their role as "Float" vehicle's.

(31 Jan 2016, 7:28 pm)Davie wrote I know what your saying, but why get rid of them when they can be continue their role as "Float" vehicle's.

Additional float/reserve vehicles cost money to run - there's a lot more to the cost of running a bus than the fuel used while operating a bus service.

On the subject of float vehicles is 548 a float or spare as its not used on shuttle service will it be of anytime soon.

(31 Jan 2016, 7:28 pm)Davie wrote I know what your saying, but why get rid of them when they can be continue their role as "Float" vehicle's.

They only have so much storage space.

(31 Jan 2016, 7:34 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote On the subject of float vehicles is 548 a float or spare as its not used on shuttle service will it be of anytime soon.

No - it forms part of Deptford's normal vehicle allocation.

When are the Hybrids able to come off the Angel?

Won't miss them when they eventually do go. Probably my least favourite vehicle in 20 odd years of bashing

(31 Jan 2016, 8:03 pm)Ambassador wrote When are the Hybrids able to come off the Angel?

Won't miss them when they eventually do go. Probably my least favourite vehicle in 20 odd years of bashing

They'll of being in service for 5 years next year in September, wonder if they'll keep them on the 21?