(29 Jan 2016, 11:45 pm)Jimmi wrote Parts of the 58 is still needed, although you could possibly change the 58 to run to Peterlee after Wheatley Hill which would save one bus on that service, although if this was to be done it would probably cost more for Durham County Council to subsidise two different services and Wingate and Station Town would lose their service to Durham.

As would quarrington hill

How about this
35 low moorsley normal route to Sunderland then southwick witherwack downhill boldon asda cinema
Every 30 mins
36a same as 35a at the minute
36 Chester le St -hougton normal route to Sunderland southwick-casletown- town end farm from Sunderland to Chester le street every 30 mins then 2 trips in a hour Sunderland to town end farm.
99 kept normal.

5 - South Shields - Chichester - South Tyneside Hospital - West Harton - Whiteleas - Boldon - Fulwell - Sunderland City Centre - Silksworth - Doxford International

5A - South Shields - Chichester - Tyne Dock - Jarrow - York Avenue - Hedworth - Fellgate - Boldon - Fulwell - Sunderland City Centre - Silksworth - Doxford International

Services 5, Short 9 & 33/33A merging together, operating Every 15 Minutes combined, service operated by Deptford Depot.

(01 Feb 2016, 7:37 pm)Malarkey wrote 5 - South Shields - Chichester - South Tyneside Hospital - West Harton - Whiteleas - Boldon - Fulwell - Sunderland City Centre - Silksworth - Doxford International

5A - South Shields - Chichester - Tyne Dock - Jarrow - York Avenue - Hedworth - Fellgate - Boldon - Fulwell - Sunderland City Centre - Silksworth - Doxford International

Services 5, Short 9 & 33/33A merging together, operating Every 15 Minutes combined, service operated by Deptford Depot.

Those routes would work.

Any idea on PVR's?

1- Blyth-whitley bay-tynemouth-north shields-jarrow.
9 now 26 murton-dalton park-ryhope-sunderland-fullwell-boldon-fellgate-jarrow

(01 Feb 2016, 7:47 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote 1- Blyth-whitley bay-tynemouth-north shields-jarrow.
9 now  26 murton-dalton park-ryhope-sunderland-fullwell-boldon-fellgate-jarrow

What would happen to the 61?

(01 Feb 2016, 9:27 pm)BusLoverMum wrote What would happen to the 61?

Merged with the 9 to form 26
Every 15 mins to connect with the 1 to shields and also blyth
Leaving the 309 whitley bay to newcastle

(01 Feb 2016, 7:47 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote 1- Blyth-whitley bay-tynemouth-north shields-jarrow.
9 now  26 murton-dalton park-ryhope-sunderland-fullwell-boldon-fellgate-jarrow

(01 Feb 2016, 9:27 pm)BusLoverMum wrote What would happen to the 61?

More to the point, what would happen to the 1 between North Shields and Gateshead?

(01 Feb 2016, 9:43 pm)MurdnunoC wrote More to the point, what would happen to the 1 between North Shields and Gateshead?

A new service introduced
Then gateshead to wrekenton a 24 with red scanias

(01 Feb 2016, 9:54 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote A new service introduced
Then gateshead to wrekenton a 24 with red scanias

So you'd introduce a new service between North Shields and Gateshead to replace the 1?

BTW, completely off topic, you don't own any castles or ferrets by any chance?

No a prediction.

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(01 Feb 2016, 9:58 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote No a suggestion

(01 Feb 2016, 9:58 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote No a prediction.

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A prediction or a suggestion?

What you've proposed is more of a suggestion.

(01 Feb 2016, 9:57 pm)MurdnunoC wrote So you'd introduce a new service between North Shields and Gateshead to replace the 1?

BTW, completely off topic, you don't own any castles or ferrets by any chance?

Bonkers. 

He wants a new service to be numbered 1 which goes nowhere near Newcastle/Gateshead from North Shields... but also extending the '1' to Blyth. Confusion with the Arriva 1? Both blue buses...

I see the demand for Blyth-Jarrow like.

(31 Jan 2016, 7:07 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote How about this
35 low moorsley normal route to Sunderland then southwick witherwack downhill boldon asda cinema
Every 30 mins
36a same as 35a at the minute
36 Chester le St -hougton normal route to Sunderland southwick-casletown- town end farm from Sunderland to Chester le street every 30 mins then 2 trips in a hour Sunderland to town end farm.
99 kept normal.

Why they are the exact same routes as now?

And times, as they both currently run every 30 minutes?

(01 Feb 2016, 10:35 pm)GX03 SVC wrote Bonkers. 

He wants a new service to be numbered 1 which goes nowhere near Newcastle/Gateshead from North Shields... but also extending the '1' to Blyth. Confusion with the Arriva 1? Both blue buses...

I see the demand for Blyth-Jarrow like.

They're only suggestions. 
No harm done.

You can't control biglugs. It's like trying to herd flies or something.

(01 Feb 2016, 7:37 pm)Malarkey wrote 5 - South Shields - Chichester - South Tyneside Hospital - West Harton - Whiteleas - Boldon - Fulwell - Sunderland City Centre - Silksworth - Doxford International

5A - South Shields - Chichester - Tyne Dock - Jarrow - York Avenue - Hedworth - Fellgate - Boldon - Fulwell - Sunderland City Centre - Silksworth - Doxford International

Services 5, Short 9 & 33/33A merging together, operating Every 15 Minutes combined, service operated by Deptford Depot.

Not a bad idea, but would it not lead to confusion with the Stagecoach Sunderland 5 and 5a, between the City Centre and Doxford

(02 Feb 2016, 10:48 am)ifm001 wrote Not a bad idea, but would it not lead to confusion with the Stagecoach Sunderland 5 and 5a, between the City Centre and Doxford

Renumber it - 7/7A

How about a 19A
Does the normal 19 route to Boghouses then either turns right go straight over roundabout onto A192 then left on lavrick hall road down into blyth either via south beach or newsham.
Or it can follow 19 route along horton road. Then turn right go along bedside road in to blyth that way

Suggestion
X2 Washington-lampton-fatfield-shiney row,east herrington-silksworth-tunstall bank
2 Washington biddick penshaw Chester road Barnes silksworth
2a pennywell Chester road Sunderland grangetown hollycarside silksworth doxford international
9 Jarrow boldon fullwell Sunderland grangetown ryhope doxford international
38 Sunderland leechmere asda hollycarside tunstall bank
99 seaburn southwick witherwack red house town end farm casletown palion Chester road Sunderland
The x2 replaces the 2 section shiney row to Washington then replaces 38 to tunstall bank.
Then x2 interworks with the 38 to park lane
Every 20 minutes 2 times a hour because of 238 from ryhope.
2 replaced the 2a to Chester road to then replace the 99 to silksworth every 30 mins Washington can run then .
2a replaces 39 to grangetown to then go to hollycarside then silksworth to replace 33 to doxford international every 20 mins.
9 from north shields every 30 then from Jarrow every 15 normal route to Sunderland Percy main boards stop then replaces route 39 every 30 mins with deckers for capacity
38 normal route interworks with x2
99 hourly seaburn to Sunderland

(02 Feb 2016, 5:57 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote Suggestion
X2 Washington-lampton-fatfield-shiney row,east herrington-silksworth-tunstall bank
2 Washington biddick penshaw Chester road Barnes silksworth
2a pennywell Chester road Sunderland grangetown hollycarside silksworth doxford international
9 Jarrow boldon fullwell Sunderland grangetown ryhope doxford international
38 Sunderland leechmere asda hollycarside tunstall bank
99 seaburn southwick witherwack red house town end farm casletown palion Chester road Sunderland
The x2 replaces the 2 section shiney row to Washington then replaces 38 to tunstall bank.
Then x2 interworks with the 38 to park lane
Every 20 minutes 2 times a hour because of 238 from ryhope.
2 replaced the 2a to Chester road to then replace the 99 to silksworth every 30 mins Washington can run then  .
2a replaces 39 to grangetown to then go to hollycarside then silksworth to replace 33 to doxford international every 20 mins.
9 from north shields every 30 then from Jarrow every 15 normal route to Sunderland Percy main boards stop then replaces route 39 every 30 mins with deckers for capacity
38 normal route interworks with x2
99 hourly seaburn to Sunderland

Going to have 2 service 9 from jarrow?

(02 Feb 2016, 5:57 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote Suggestion
X2 Washington-lampton-fatfield-shiney row,east herrington-silksworth-tunstall bank
2 Washington biddick penshaw Chester road Barnes silksworth
2a pennywell Chester road Sunderland grangetown hollycarside silksworth doxford international
9 Jarrow boldon fullwell Sunderland grangetown ryhope doxford international
38 Sunderland leechmere asda hollycarside tunstall bank
99 seaburn southwick witherwack red house town end farm casletown palion Chester road Sunderland
The x2 replaces the 2 section shiney row to Washington then replaces 38 to tunstall bank.
Then x2 interworks with the 38 to park lane
Every 20 minutes 2 times a hour because of 238 from ryhope.
2 replaced the 2a to Chester road to then replace the 99 to silksworth every 30 mins Washington can run then  .
2a replaces 39 to grangetown to then go to hollycarside then silksworth to replace 33 to doxford international every 20 mins.
9 from north shields every 30 then from Jarrow every 15 normal route to Sunderland Percy main boards stop then replaces route 39 every 30 mins with deckers for capacity
38 normal route interworks with x2
99 hourly seaburn to Sunderland

Biglugs, can you set it out a bit better, i'm finding it confusing to read.

Hope i don't sound like a dick.

1 - Wrekenton - Gateshead - Newcastle - North Shields - Jarrow
Runs Every Half Hour M-Sat,Current Route To North Shields Then Via Current Route 9 Route to Jarrow

1A - Wrekenton - Gateshead - Newcastle - North Shields - Jarrow - Boldon - Sunderland
EVENINGS & SUNDAYS ONLY,Runs Every Hour Hour Sunderland - North Shields,Once Every Hour Continuing to Wrekenton Replaces Sunday Service on 9

2 - Gateshead - Newcastle - North Shields - Whitley Bay - Cramlington
Runs Every Half Hour M-Sat,Current Route To Whitley Bay,Then Competes against Arriva 57 To Cramlington.Sundays Runs Every 60 Mins

2A - Kibblesworth - Gateshead - Newcastle - North Shields - Whitley Bay
EVENINGS & SUNDAYS ONLY Replaces Current 1A

3 - Blyth - Whitley Bay - North Shields - Shields Ferry
Runs Every Half Hour M-Sat to Maintain the 15Min Frequency on the North Shields - Whitley Bay

33/A - Doxford Int - Sunderland - Boldon - Jarrow
Extended To Jarrow Replacing Service 9,Sundays will run as 1A

Looking at the current timetables the PVRs would work out at:
1 - PVR 8
1A - PVR 7
2 - PVR 9
2A - PVR 4
3 - PVR 5
33/A - PVR 9

1/A/2/A Would Use the current Omnicitys
3,33/A Would Use Wright Solars (Fitted with WIFI to match the Omnicitys)

(02 Feb 2016, 10:50 pm)dannygee wrote Going to have 2 service 9 from jarrow?

Possibly bring back the 9a

(03 Feb 2016, 3:22 am)callum2015 wrote 1 - Wrekenton - Gateshead - Newcastle - North Shields - Jarrow
Runs Every Half Hour M-Sat,Current Route To North Shields Then Via Current Route 9 Route to Jarrow

1A - Wrekenton - Gateshead - Newcastle - North Shields - Jarrow - Boldon - Sunderland
EVENINGS & SUNDAYS ONLY,Runs Every Hour Hour Sunderland - North Shields,Once Every Hour Continuing to Wrekenton Replaces Sunday Service on 9

2 - Gateshead - Newcastle - North Shields - Whitley Bay - Cramlington
Runs Every Half Hour M-Sat,Current Route To Whitley Bay,Then Competes against Arriva 57 To Cramlington.Sundays Runs Every 60 Mins

2A - Kibblesworth - Gateshead - Newcastle - North Shields - Whitley Bay
EVENINGS & SUNDAYS ONLY Replaces Current 1A

3 - Blyth - Whitley Bay - North Shields - Shields Ferry
Runs Every Half Hour M-Sat to Maintain the 15Min Frequency on the North Shields - Whitley Bay

33/A - Doxford Int - Sunderland - Boldon - Jarrow
Extended To Jarrow Replacing Service 9,Sundays will run as 1A

Looking at the current timetables the PVRs would work out at:
1 - PVR 8
1A - PVR 7
2 - PVR 9
2A - PVR 4
3 - PVR 5
33/A - PVR 9

1/A/2/A Would Use the current Omnicitys

I was enjoying reading this until I saw what buses they'd use.

(03 Feb 2016, 8:11 am)Davie wrote I was enjoying reading this until I saw what buses they'd use.

I'm sorry like but this is becoming just as annoying as that lad with his Urban 90's and MPD's.

We get it, you don't like OmniCity's....

(03 Feb 2016, 3:22 am)callum2015 wrote 1 - Wrekenton - Gateshead - Newcastle - North Shields - Jarrow
Runs Every Half Hour M-Sat,Current Route To North Shields Then Via Current Route 9 Route to Jarrow

1A - Wrekenton - Gateshead - Newcastle - North Shields - Jarrow - Boldon - Sunderland
EVENINGS & SUNDAYS ONLY,Runs Every Hour Hour Sunderland - North Shields,Once Every Hour Continuing to Wrekenton Replaces Sunday Service on 9

2 - Gateshead - Newcastle - North Shields - Whitley Bay - Cramlington
Runs Every Half Hour M-Sat,Current Route To Whitley Bay,Then Competes against Arriva 57 To Cramlington.Sundays Runs Every 60 Mins

2A - Kibblesworth - Gateshead - Newcastle - North Shields - Whitley Bay
EVENINGS & SUNDAYS ONLY Replaces Current 1A

3 - Blyth - Whitley Bay - North Shields - Shields Ferry
Runs Every Half Hour M-Sat to Maintain the 15Min Frequency on the North Shields - Whitley Bay

33/A - Doxford Int - Sunderland - Boldon - Jarrow
Extended To Jarrow Replacing Service 9,Sundays will run as 1A

Looking at the current timetables the PVRs would work out at:
1 - PVR 8
1A - PVR 7
2 - PVR 9
2A - PVR 4
3 - PVR 5
33/A - PVR 9

1/A/2/A Would Use the current Omnicitys
3,33/A Would Use Wright Solars (Fitted with WIFI to match the Omnicitys)

Good suggestion ominicity or Citaro am not fussed as long as it's something decent at the end of the day a bus is a bus 

Imagine if there was a X8 service to Metrocentre to Middlesbrough could easy run out of Riverside with new vehicles or some existing ones I remember a few years back they trailed a X9 service by coach that December it was kept on permently although original a trial to see how popular it was X9 started out using coaches that used to be used on National Express then once Vykings had arrived for 21/22 it was then decided to put Geminis on to X9/X10 along with existing ones which were on there

128. New brancepath-durham-sacriston-beamish
Pvr2 1x Chester 1x stanley
5401 and 5419
Create completion on route 48.
Journeys to both new brancepath and Beamish will serve railway station

(03 Feb 2016, 7:56 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote 128. New brancepath-durham-sacriston-beamish
Pvr2 1x Chester 1x stanley
5401 and 5419
Create completion on route 48.
Journeys to both new brancepath and Beamish will serve railway station

What frequency would this suggestion run and would this be a normal day to day service or seasonal service? I can't see them being able to compete with Arriva's service 48 running every 20 minutes to New Brancepeth.

(03 Feb 2016, 8:13 pm)Jimmi wrote What frequency would this suggestion run and would this be a normal day to day service or seasonal service? I can't see them being able to compete with Arriva's service 48 running every 20 minutes to New Brancepeth.

Seasonal and hourly just to connect people to Beamish

(03 Feb 2016, 8:15 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote Seasonal and hourly just to connect people to Beamish

Don't see the point in running to New Brancepeth on a hourly seasonal service as there isn't exactly anything at New Brancepeth for people to visit and anyone living in New Brancepeth would probably just use the all year round and more frequent Arriva 48.