(03 Apr 2016, 3:21 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote what will the frequency be

No idea, Dan or Citaro might be to answer

The Docks to the City Centre section should be hourly - unless GNE have decided to stick with the current 30 minute frequency, that the 5/5A provide at the min, then the City Centre to Silksworth could be every 15 minutes .


If half hourly to the docks.... 33 route endings would be: Docks, City Centre - Docks - City Centre 

If hourly.... City Centre - Docks - City Centre - City Centre.

Edit:


Just noticed the 33 will not go Doxford anymore!

(03 Apr 2016, 3:32 pm)Michael wrote No idea, Dan or Citaro might be to answer

The Docks to the City Centre section should be hourly - unless GNE have decided to stick with the current 30 minute frequency, that the 5/5A provide at the min, then the City Centre to Doxford Park could be every 15 minutes.

those peak runs that use deckers would they be able to go round the docks

(03 Apr 2016, 3:34 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote those peak runs that use deckers would they be able to go round the docks

I don't see why not.

The peak timings could change - hopefully changes will be online soon, would guess in a few weeks time.

(03 Apr 2016, 3:34 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote those peak runs that use deckers would they be able to go round the docks

Busways didn't have any problems using double deckers years ago, the route hasn't changed between town and docks

(03 Apr 2016, 3:34 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote those peak runs that use deckers would they be able to go round the docks

Just noticed, that the 33 will only be Docks to Silksworth - not to Doxford Park.

(03 Apr 2016, 3:43 pm)Michael wrote Just noticed, that the 33 will only be Docks to Silksworth - not to Doxford Park.

Starting to wonder if there will be a merger of services along Park Road or a variation that comes along say Villette Road - to integrate the services further.

(03 Apr 2016, 3:46 pm)Andreos1 wrote Starting to wonder if there will be a merger of services along Park Road or a variation that comes along say Villette Road - to integrate the services further.

Not sure, GNE are also changing the 39's route and times, along with a 39A - which i thought could of been the NEXUS funded ones but now it could be a different route to provide lost connections.... not sure though.

Wouldn't mind more cross city services though.


I think the 35/35A/36 changes could have something to do with the new bridge getting built.

(03 Apr 2016, 3:55 pm)Michael wrote Not sure, GNE are also changing the 39's route and times, along with a 39A - which i thought could of been the NEXUS funded ones but now it could be a different route to provide lost connections.... not sure though.

Wouldn't mind more cross city services though.


I think the 35/35A/36 changes could have something to do with the new bridge getting built.

There are 38 changes too.
Although that could be just getting rid of the long ones

(03 Apr 2016, 4:01 pm)Andreos1 wrote There are 38 changes too.
Although that could be just getting rid of the long ones

238 is changing to although the changes are just timings, wonder if that's something to do with the 38 changing?


Wonder if the X36 will be dropped to hourly along the full route?

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No more 2A?, seems to be a mistake, hopefully they don't drop the 2A part of the route... both services are always busy.

Variation Number 1
Status Registered
Operator Name GO NORTHERN LTD
Service Number(s) 2 
Start Point Vicarage Estate, Church View
Finish Point Washington Galleries Bus Station
Via  
Service Type Normal Stopping
Date Received 24-MAR-2016
Effective Date 22-MAY-2016
End Date -
TAOs covered by route North East of England
Local Authorities covered by route Nexus (Tyne & Wear)
N&P Reference 2225

(03 Apr 2016, 3:43 pm)Michael wrote Just noticed, that the 33 will only be Docks to Silksworth - not to Doxford Park.

Since the 38 not extended to houghton, I would of thought the 2 38s per hour extended to the docks as a 38 and 38A.

(03 Apr 2016, 5:43 pm)cbma06 wrote Since the 38 not extended to houghton, I would of thought the 2 38s per hour extended to the docks as a 38 and 38A.

I don't think it would work extending the 38 to the docks, the 33 is the best option as they already terminate in the City Centre.


The 38 would have go past Wilkinson's, down Town Moor then the Docks, come back around which adds on time, not sure the 38 passengers would be happy, especially the ones which get off at Holmeside.

(03 Apr 2016, 5:43 pm)cbma06 wrote Since the 38 not extended to houghton, I would of thought the 2 38s per hour extended to the docks as a 38 and 38A.

(03 Apr 2016, 5:51 pm)Michael wrote I don't think it would work extending the 38 to the docks, the 33 is the best option as they already terminate in the City Centre.


The 38 would have go past Wilkinson's, down Town Moor then the Docks, come back around which adds on time, not sure the 38 passengers would be happy, especially the ones which get off at Holmeside.

Not only that but the 38 extending would create an uneven 20/40 frequency either on the Docks section or have a half hourly 38 with the hourly 238 fitting in between 2 in a 15/15/30 frequency.

(03 Apr 2016, 6:08 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Not only that but the 38 extending would create an uneven 20/40 frequency either on the Docks section or have a half hourly 38 with the hourly 238 fitting in between 2 in a 15/15/30 frequency.

Ye, before NEXUS changed the contract and put it out as commercial, the frequency to the docks was going to be hourly, not sure what GNE have got down for it now.

The 33 timetable shouldn't be bad to, if they've stuck to hourly on that section however we don't know the overall frequency of the 33, as the 33A looks to be gone and they are no longer extending it to Doxford.

(03 Apr 2016, 6:15 pm)Michael wrote Ye, before NEXUS changed the contract and put it out as commercial, the frequency to the docks was going to be hourly, not sure what GNE have got down for it now.

The 33 timetable shouldn't be bad to, if they've stuck to hourly on that section however we don't know the overall frequency of the 33, as the 33A looks to be gone and they are no longer extending it to Doxford.

Run the 35 through silksworth best option and itll match the sunday 35a

(03 Apr 2016, 9:07 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote Run the 35 through silksworth best option and itll match the sunday 35a

The 33 will still be going though to Silksworth.


The 35 or 36 shouldn't change - both of them are working, shame there is a route change coming up.. Hopefully its because of the bridge works or for when High Street West in the City Centre goes both ways....

Just been looking through the new 88/88A Timetable and all that's been changed is extra running time on some services and omitting Jarrow Morrison's before 9AM.

Does anyone know what the allocation will be of the 88/88A? Yes there's the 8 Versa's but what will be allocated to the remaining one board?

(03 Apr 2016, 9:38 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote Just been looking through the new 88/88A Timetable and all that's been changed is extra running time on some services and omitting Jarrow Morrison's before 9AM.

Does anyone know what the allocation will be of the 88/88A? Yes there's the 8 Versa's but what will be allocated to the remaining one board?

Remains as Scania L94 - runs onto misc works, with a contractual requirement of a bus with a minimum capacity of 60.

(04 Apr 2016, 4:23 am)Dan wrote Remains as Scania L94 - runs onto misc works, with a contractual requirement of a bus with a minimum capacity of 60.

Thanks Dan, though will it have to be a Non Roof Pod Scania due to the low bridge?

(04 Apr 2016, 9:10 am)South Tyne Lad wrote Thanks Dan, though will it have to be a Non Roof Pod Scania due to the low bridge?

The low bridge is 10'6", so any single-deck vehicle operating on this service must be below this height.

Does anyone know what the new LOOP branding will look like?

(04 Apr 2016, 10:11 am)NK53 TKT wrote Does anyone know what the new LOOP branding will look like?

We don't, hopefully the branding is applied soon.

service 36 route from May: Castletown ring way-Sunderland-Silksworth-herringtons-houghton-chester-le-street.

so during the day through silksworth as 36 and evening and sunday through silksworth as 35A

(04 Apr 2016, 3:27 pm)cbma06 wrote service 36 route from May: Castletown ring way-Sunderland-Silksworth-herringtons-houghton-chester-le-street.

so during the day through silksworth as 36 and evening and sunday through silksworth as 35A

Is this official? 

If so, why does GNE need the 33 and 36 to go through Silksworth during the day, unless the 33 is dropping to half hourly meaning the 33 and 36 will combine to provide a service every 15 minutes from Silksworth, the 36 however takes the long way to the City Centre, unless that changes.................

Will the 36 not go to Town End Farm either?

(04 Apr 2016, 3:34 pm)Michael wrote Is this official? 

If so, why does GNE need the 33 and 36 to go through Silksworth during the day, unless the 33 is dropping to half hourly meaning the 33 and 36 will combine to provide a service every 15 minutes from Silksworth, the 36 however takes the long way to the City Centre, unless that changes.................

Will the 36 not go to Town End Farm either?

its official.

service 36 starts at castletown and will not serve town end farm.

service 36 still every 30 minutes. don't know the frequency of service 33 will be.

service 36 will not serve the royal hospital, service 35 will still serve royal hospital

I don't use service 35 and 36, but do both services use southwick green?

(04 Apr 2016, 3:40 pm)cbma06 wrote its official.

service 36 starts at castletown and will not serve town end farm.

service 36 still every 30 minutes. don't know the frequency of service 33 will be.

service 36 will not serve the royal hospital, service 35 will still serve royal hospital

Why can't they just leave the services alone... no the wonder that MP is always moaning along with the passengers, how many changes now?

So Hylton Castle are loosing both the 36 and 99 from May... they have to walk to the stop near the shops for the 35.....

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(04 Apr 2016, 3:44 pm)cbma06 wrote I don't use service 35 and 36, but do both services use southwick green?

They do =)

(04 Apr 2016, 3:44 pm)Michael wrote Why can't they just leave the services alone... no the wonder that MP is always moaning along with the passengers, how many changes now?

So Hylton Castle are loosing both the 36 and 99 from May... they have to walk to the stop near the shops for the 35.....

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They do =)

just that from may:

example:

service 35:

leaves riverside retail park at 29 minutes past
leaves southwick green at 35 minutes past
enters sunderland interchange at 47 minutes past

service 36:

leaves retail park at 47 minutes past
enters sunderland interchange at 02 minutes past
with blank entry for southwick green, wonder if it does the 8 route over QA bridge and along trimdon street

(04 Apr 2016, 3:50 pm)cbma06 wrote just that from may:

example:

service 35:

leaves riverside retail park at 29 minutes past
leaves southwick green at 35 minutes past
enters sunderland interchange at 47 minutes past

service 36:

leaves retail park at 47 minutes past
enters sunderland interchange at 02 minutes past
with blank entry for southwick green, wonder if it does the 8 route over QA bridge and along trimdon street

Not sure, the 8 already goes that way, it picks up no one, well when i use the 8 it doesn't.

The 36 should still go its normal route from Castletown to Park Lane.

(04 Apr 2016, 3:55 pm)Michael wrote Not sure, the 8 already goes that way, it picks up no one, well when i was the 8 it doesn't.

The 36 should still go its normal route from Castletown to Park Lane.

unless if service 99 totally withdrawn and theres usually passengers going between silksworth and riverside retail park.

maybe the 36 and 8 will be a combined 15 minute service. don't know the times for the 8 via retail park

it only says that service 35 will be the one stopping at southwick green.

(04 Apr 2016, 4:00 pm)cbma06 wrote unless if service 99 totally withdrawn and theres usually passengers going between silksworth and riverside retail park.

maybe the 36 and 8 will be a combined 15 minute service. don't know the times for the 8 via retail park

it only says that service 35 will be the one stopping at southwick green.

The 99 is fully withdrawn.

The 8 arrives at Hylton Retail Park shops at around 21 and 51 towards Sunderland.