(13 Jun 2016, 5:07 pm)Kuyoyo wrote 19141-63/93 are the one I understand down to be leaving the region, as they are are the oldest examples. 19141-8 are the only one that have a known destination - they are the ones off to the North West. East Midlands is almost certainly Lincolnshire area to replace Tridents.

As for Yorkshire, I wouldn't be too surprised if they don't end up at one of the Sheffield depots to increase capacity there.

Ah well, That knocks my Slatyford plan out the window haha, Wouldn't be surprised if they see allocation to the Trident boards of the 555, With the 55 reg Tridents replacing older examples.

(13 Jun 2016, 5:28 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote Ah well, That knocks my Slatyford plan out the window haha, Wouldn't be surprised if they see allocation to the Trident boards of the 555, With the 55 reg Tridents replacing older examples.

What Trident boards on the 555? Once the E400MMCs enter service, there will be no Trident workings on the 555 as Morecambe's Summer-only boards are also going over to the new MMCs.

(13 Jun 2016, 5:26 pm)Kuyoyo wrote BIB: They are Volvo B7TLs not Tridents. The older ones (the Y-reg ones) are the only one that will be a query - the rest of the Vykings should be DDA compliant as they are all post-2001 builds.

I thought there were Tridents in IC livery down there? In addition the Presidents and E400's.

(13 Jun 2016, 5:36 pm)Andreos1 wrote I thought there were Tridents in IC livery down there? In addition the Presidents and E400's.

No - only Scania E400s, Volvo B7TL/Wright Eclipse Geminis and Volvo B7TL/East Lancs Vykings.

(13 Jun 2016, 5:30 pm)Kuyoyo wrote What Trident boards on the 555? Once the E400MMCs enter service, there will be no Trident workings on the 555 as Morecambe's Summer-only boards are also going over to the new MMCs.

I was mistaken, Its Service 554 which runs between Carlisle and Keswick which connects with the 555 to Lancaster and uses Tridents with the same brand as the 555 Scania E400s

(13 Jun 2016, 5:38 pm)Kuyoyo wrote No - only Scania E400s, Volvo B7TL/Wright Eclipse Geminis and Volvo B7TL/East Lancs Vykings.

It looks like I was wrong!
Had a quick flick through Flickr and fleet cards and I can't see any Presidents or Tridents in IC livery.
My memory must be playing tricks on me, as I could have sworn I had used and seen said vehicles in service.

(12 Jun 2016, 10:35 pm)Kuyoyo wrote I think you have crossed wires - the Enviro400s the new MMCs are displacing are expected to be cascaded not the MANs.

Oh, my bad

(13 Jun 2016, 4:50 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote Cumbria could be Carlisle to replace the 555 Tridents, Which updates the brand along with the E400MMCs replacing the Scania E400s, The rest will replace other Tridents ( which I believe Carlisle have a few more too )

BIB. Not that many; only a handful. Often go on the 104 to Penrith and Centre Parcs which I believe would be receiving them, if they did transfer to Carlisle.

I'd imagine the likes of Lillyhall or Kendal will receive them, the former mostly as there's still a fair amount of older deckers going still.

Stagecoach E400MMC SN16OWK looked like it was preparing to leave AD Falkirk this evening about half an hour ago. This is beyond the registrations listed at the last update at the beginning of the month. Could anyone confirm if this is still in the series being delivered to Manchester?

(15 Jun 2016, 8:23 pm)Ebs wrote Stagecoach E400MMC SN16OWK looked like it was preparing to leave AD Falkirk this evening about half an hour ago. This is beyond the registrations listed at the last update at the beginning of the month. Could anyone confirm if this is still in the series being delivered to Manchester?

I understand the latest (alphabetically) booked registration for Manchester is SN16 OUO (10597), as no more are expected here until later in the Summer. I did here something about a batch now being built with body numbers well into the G407 series. Manchester's are G405.

Outside AD Falkirk this morning was standard liveried E200MMC SN16OPU. I note on the master list that OPV upwards have already been delivered as shorter 374xx for Kings Lynn so am guessing this is the last of one of the 11.8M 260XX batch for Chester.

For some reason, 10560 was outside AD Falkirk this morning, complete in full Lakes livery. I had thought this had already been delivered? Did it need to return for some rectifications?

(22 Jun 2016, 8:50 am)Ebs wrote For some reason, 10560 was outside AD Falkirk this morning, complete in full Lakes livery. I had thought this had already been delivered? Did it need to return for some rectifications?

The only report on this forum, mentions 10552/3/5 on delivery. I've seen elsewhere that 10554 was delivered about the same time - a day or two before, I think - but there have been no reports of 10556-63 being delivered. Nor is there any news on which will be going to Kendal and which to Lancaster.

(15 Jun 2016, 8:23 pm)Ebs wrote Stagecoach E400MMC SN16OWK looked like it was preparing to leave AD Falkirk this evening about half an hour ago. This is beyond the registrations listed at the last update at the beginning of the month. Could anyone confirm if this is still in the series being delivered to Manchester?

This has appeared on an on line fleet list as 10634 supposedly delivered to Walkergate (!), along with 10631/2/3 ('OWG/H/J). I'm guessing this list might be open to question (lol)

It was spotted on the M74 last Friday
SN16OWK by MOD571P, on Flickr

And one spotted yesterday appears to be SN16OVX
SN16OVX by MOD571P, on Flickr

(22 Jun 2016, 7:51 pm)Kuyoyo wrote It was spotted on the M74 last Friday
SN16OWK by MOD571P, on Flickr

And one spotted yesterday appears to be SN16OVX
SN16OVX by MOD571P, on Flickr

(22 Jun 2016, 5:07 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Not all of Manchester's have been delivered. Only the ones for Ashton have been - the Kendal and Lancaster ones are being delivered now then it is the summer shutdown at Alexander Dennis. We are looking at late August/early September for the North East examples.

Yes I understand, Though it doesn't look like everything is being delivered in order.

It looks like they are being delivered before the Summer Shutdown, The E200MMCs could make it before the Shutdown too seem as though Chester's Batch have been delivered.

(22 Jun 2016, 8:49 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote Yes I understand, Though it doesn't look like everything is being delivered in order.

It looks like they are being delivered before the Summer Shutdown, The E200MMCs could make it before the Shutdown too seem as though Chester's Batch have been delivered.

Kuyoyo Wrote: Not all of Manchester's have been delivered. Only the ones for Ashton have been - the Kendal and Lancaster ones are being delivered now then it is the summer shutdown at Alexander Dennis. We are looking at late August/early September for the North East examples.

This message marked as "3 hours ago" didn't originally appear on my list. However, to clarify, Ashton have received 10578-97, with 11 more still expected (after the shutdown?) But as the Kendal/Lancaster ones are in the Lakes livery, it begs the question who is 'OVX for, never mind the others already mentioned. As an aside, I've heard that Yorkshire's will be built at Scarborough, so won't be affecting the delivery plans from Falkirk.

(22 Jun 2016, 9:07 pm)Tamesider wrote Kuyoyo Wrote: Not all of Manchester's have been delivered. Only the ones for Ashton have been - the Kendal and Lancaster ones are being delivered now then it is the summer shutdown at Alexander Dennis. We are looking at late August/early September for the North East examples.

This message marked as "3 hours ago" didn't originally appear on my list. However, to clarify, Ashton have received 10578-97, with 11 more still expected (after the shutdown?) But as the Kendal/Lancaster ones are in the Lakes livery, it begs the question who is 'OVX for, never mind the others already mentioned. As an aside, I've heard that Yorkshire's will be built at Scarborough, so won't be affecting the delivery plans from Falkirk.

I got it from the Latest News and Discussion thread, I should've pointed that out.

Do Scarborough shut down for the Summer too? Could be a chance Walkergates and Slatyfords get built there.

Yesterday evening (about 18:15) 10562 SN16OOG was outside AD Falkirk in full Lakes livery.

Update - full details of the Lakes E400MMCs and the Chester E200MMCs

Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
10511-10525 (SN16 OLU/V/W/X, OMA/C/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/O): Glasgow.
10526-10533 (SN16 OMP/R/S/T/U/V/W/X): Aberdeen (Jet Livery)
10534-10551 (SN16 OMY/Z, ONA/B/C/D/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/O/P/R/S/T): Gillmoss
10552-10558 (SN16 ONU/V/W/X/Z, OOA/B): Kendal
[i]10559-10563 (SN16 OOC/E/F/G/H): Morecambe[/i]
10564-10577 (SN16 OSZ, OTA/B/C/D/E/F/G/J/K/L/M/O/P): Gillmoss
10578-10597 (SN16 OTS/U/V/W/X/Y/Z, OUA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/O): Manchester
10598-10630: Manchester
10631-10654: Newcastle
10655-10663: Barnsley
10664-10666: Worksop
10667-10687: Oxford
10688-10697: Exeter
10698-10700: Winchester
10701-10725: Folkestone
10726-10733: Leamington 
10734-10748: Hull
10749-10760: Cheltenham (Gold - tbc)
10761-10778: Aldershot (Gold - tbc)
10779-10788: Oxford (Gold)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC 11.8M Euro6
26041-26049 (SN16 OOJ/U/V/W/X/Y, OPA/B/C): Winchester
26050-26062 (SN16 OPD/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/O/R/S/T/U): Chester
26063-26080: Slatyford
26081-26087: Chesterfield
26088-26111: Porth

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6
37431-37439 (SN16 OPV/W/X/Z, ORC/F/G/H/J): Kings Lynn
37440-37444: Rock Ferry.

Optare Solo SLR Euro6
48031-48036: Kings Lynn

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite Euro6
54284: East Scotland.

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite I Euro6
54277-54283: Rugby.

Volvo B11RT/Plaxton Elite Euro6
54331-54333: East Scotland
54334-54341: West Scotland

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6 London
36609-36621: Bromley

Alexander Dennis Enviro400H MMC Euro6 London
12364-12401: Plumstead

Mercedes Benz Sprinter City 45
44001-44030: TBC

Hi Kuyoyo.

There seem to be a number of E400MMC floating around. Reg No. SN16/OVX/Y,OWG/H/J/K/M/O/P.

Do you know where they are headed?

Many Thanks.

Seen tonight outside AD Falkirk, behind a non-stagecoach E400MMC with "Happy Holidays" beaming from its destination display to bid farewell to the workers leaving for the summer shutdown, was Stagecoach E400MMC SN16OWU.

Dear Kuyoyo. The news I have heard is that the order is going to Stagecoach Manchester. Regards Robin from the north east.

(28 Jun 2016, 9:06 pm)Robinwtait.19 wrote Dear Kuyoyo. The news I have heard is that the order is going to Stagecoach Manchester. Regards Robin from the north east.

I think this is correct as, apparently, the body numbers tie in with the second part of the Manchester order. However, there is little info on which ones have made it to Manchester, and certainly none are in service yet.

10598-608 have now appeared on the uk-buses site as at Ashton "depot". From information I have been given, 10598 (as SN16 OVX) is correct, but of the others;, some have not yet been delivered, whilst those that have (about six units) do not tie-up in terms of registration/fleet numbers/body numbers

(29 Jun 2016, 8:11 pm)Tamesider wrote I think thus is correct as, apparently, the body numbers tie in with the second part of the Manchester order. However, there is little info on which ones have made it to Manchester, and certainly none are in service yet.

Thank you Thamesider.

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(30 Jun 2016, 11:56 am)KB59 wrote Thank you Thamesider.

Sorry Tamesider. Typo.

(30 Jun 2016, 11:56 am)KB59 wrote Thank you Thamesider.

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Sorry Tamesider. Typo.

No worries - its a common typo despite the two being very different places

(29 Jun 2016, 8:11 pm)Tamesider wrote I think this is correct as, apparently, the body numbers tie in with the second part of the Manchester order. However, there is little info on which ones have made it to Manchester, and certainly none are in service yet.

10598-608 have now appeared on the uk-buses site as at Ashton "depot". From information I have been given, 10598 (as SN16 OVX) is correct, but of the others;, some have not yet been delivered, whilst those that have (about six units) do not tie-up in terms of registration/fleet numbers/body numbers

A further update here is that SN16 OWG/H/J/K are believed to be 10606-9 resp, with 10612 (SN16 OWP) another one delivered, and quickly entered service at HE. I believe a few more of the HE batch have also arrived, but contrary to info published on another list (or two), none of 10598-608 are yet in service at AZ (as of yesterday) and indeed about 5 of those have yet to be delivered, unless they've gone straight to Ashton.

Update - more registrations for the Manchester E400MMCs posted elsewhere

Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
10511-10525 (SN16 OLU/V/W/X, OMA/C/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/O): Glasgow.
10526-10533 (SN16 OMP/R/S/T/U/V/W/X): Aberdeen (Jet Livery)
10534-10551 (SN16 OMY/Z, ONA/B/C/D/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/O/P/R/S/T): Gillmoss
10552-10558 (SN16 ONU/V/W/X/Z, OOA/B): Kendal
10559-10563 (SN16 OOC/E/F/G/H): Morecambe
10564-10577 (SN16 OSZ, OTA/B/C/D/E/F/G/J/K/L/M/O/P): Gillmoss
10578-10597 (SN16 OTS/U/V/W/X/Y/Z, OUA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/O): Manchester Ashton
10598-10630 (SN16 OVX/Y/Z, OWA/B/C/D/F/G/H/J/K/M/O/P/R/U/V): Manchester
10631-10654: Newcastle
10655-10663: Barnsley
10664-10666: Worksop
10667-10687: Oxford
10688-10697: Exeter
10698-10700: Winchester
10701-10725: Folkestone
10726-10733: Leamington 
10734-10748: Hull
10749-10760: Cheltenham (Gold)
10761-10778: Aldershot (Gold)
10779-10788: Oxford (Gold)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC 11.8M Euro6
26041-26049 (SN16 OOJ/U/V/W/X/Y, OPA/B/C): Winchester
26050-26062 (SN16 OPD/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/O/R/S/T/U): Chester
26063-26080: Slatyford
26081-26087: Chesterfield
26088-26111: Porth

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6
37431-37439 (SN16 OPV/W/X/Z, ORC/F/G/H/J): Kings Lynn
37440-37444: Rock Ferry.

Optare Solo SLR Euro6
48031-48036: Kings Lynn

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite Euro6
54284: East Scotland.

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite I Euro6
54277-54283: Rugby.

Volvo B11RT/Plaxton Elite Euro6
54331-54333: East Scotland
54334-54341: West Scotland

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6 London
36609-36621: Bromley

Alexander Dennis Enviro400H MMC Euro6 London
12364-12401: Plumstead

Mercedes Benz Sprinter City 45
44001-44030: TBC

Update - full registrations for the Manchester E400MMCs plus the first of the Sprinters

Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
10511-10525 (SN16 OLU/V/W/X, OMA/C/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/O): Glasgow.
10526-10533 (SN16 OMP/R/S/T/U/V/W/X): Aberdeen (Jet Livery)
10534-10551 (SN16 OMY/Z, ONA/B/C/D/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/O/P/R/S/T): Gillmoss
10552-10558 (SN16 ONU/V/W/X/Z, OOA/B): Kendal
10559-10563 (SN16 OOC/E/F/G/H): Morecambe
10564-10577 (SN16 OSZ, OTA/B/C/D/E/F/G/J/K/L/M/O/P): Gillmoss
10578-10597 (SN16 OTS/U/V/W/X/Y/Z, OUA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/O): Manchester Ashton
10598-10630 (SN16 OVX/Y/Z, OWA/B/C/D/F/G/H/J/K/M/O/P/R/U/V/W/X/Z, OXA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/M): Manchester
10631-10654: Newcastle
10655-10663: Barnsley
10664-10666: Worksop
10667-10687: Oxford
10688-10697: Exeter
10698-10700: Winchester
10701-10725: Folkestone
10726-10733: Leamington 
10734-10748: Hull
10749-10760: Cheltenham (Gold)
10761-10778: Aldershot (Gold)
10779-10788: Oxford (Gold)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC 11.8M Euro6
26041-26049 (SN16 OOJ/U/V/W/X/Y, OPA/B/C): Winchester
26050-26062 (SN16 OPD/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/O/R/S/T/U): Chester
26063-26080: Slatyford
26081-26087: Chesterfield
26088-26111: Porth

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6
37431-37439 (SN16 OPV/W/X/Z, ORC/F/G/H/J): Kings Lynn
37440-37444: Rock Ferry.

Optare Solo SLR Euro6
48031-48036: Kings Lynn

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite Euro6
54284: East Scotland.

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite I Euro6
54277-54283: Rugby.

Volvo B11RT/Plaxton Elite Euro6
54331-54333: East Scotland
54334-54341: West Scotland

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6 London
36609-36621: Bromley

Alexander Dennis Enviro400H MMC Euro6 London
12364-12401: Plumstead

Mercedes Benz Sprinter City 45
44001-44030 (BP16 UWN/O/R/S/T/U/V/W): TBC

(07 Jul 2016, 7:55 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Update - full registrations for the Manchester E400MMCs plus the first of the Sprinters

Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6

10598-10630 (SN16 OVX/Y/Z, OWA/B/C/D/F/G/H/J/K/M/O/P/R/U/V/W/X/Z, OXA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/M): Manchester


Funny that these should be updated now. 10607 has just been reported in service at AZ and confirmed as 'OWH. However, 10598 has been reported on a HE service and having originally been confirmed as wearing 'OVX, it was then suggested it should be O*U*X, only to be sighted wearing 'OUP !!! Meanwhile, 10609-13 are in service at HE.