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Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016

Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016

RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
(25 Jul 2016, 9:40 pm)Jimmi wrote Don't think I could have a sense of adventure by spending that long on one bus, especially a Solar Tongue

I would I had some sense of adventure today, was out for 12 and a half hours today, getting all the Phoenix stuff although I struggled to hold that after spending well over an hour at Kingston Park as the Stagecoach service 6 turned up about 25 minutes late! Dodgy

You never mentioned that before about the 6  Angel
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
Although 3983 is shown on Go North East's latest Fleet Allocation as transferring to Riverside, it is still in use at Chester-le-Street today. On service X22.
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
(26 Jul 2016, 7:22 pm)Adrian wrote Could I ask that you refer to the 'guidance on issue reporting' thread please?
Yep, been using only tapatalk for a long while so wasn't aware of that thread's existence. Will follow that in the future, thanks!
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
(27 Jul 2016, 2:58 pm)EL1TE wrote 5388 has been repainted into a plain yellow base livery for service changes, haven't got a photo.

EL1TE, do you know what else is in for repaint?

Thanks
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
(27 Jul 2016, 2:45 pm)V514DFT wrote Venture solo 646 is up at the industrial estate next to procter and gamble just off whitley road

Bells maybe?
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
(27 Jul 2016, 2:45 pm)V514DFT wrote Venture solo 646 is up at the industrial estate next to procter and gamble just off whitley road

(27 Jul 2016, 3:37 pm)Andreos1 wrote Bells maybe?

Yeah, its at Bells Trucks
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
So much for improving reliability, the 41 is a no show from Wallsend Metro

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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
(27 Jul 2016, 3:03 pm)Michael wrote EL1TE, do you know what else is in for repaint?

Thanks

Not too sure about that, sorry!
Saw it in Fewster Square at the time I reported that.
Maybe check at Saltmeadows, some Citylink Versas might be there, but I haven't been down there in a while...
However, I am lead to believe that 5385-5388 are in for repaint as 5385 and 5388 are yellow.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
(27 Jul 2016, 11:23 am)Ryan99 wrote Another driver saying all prince bishops are slow ...

I think the amount of time they spend sitting at timing points compared with the solars somewhat contradicts that perception.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
(27 Jul 2016, 5:28 pm)MVK 500R wrote So much for improving reliability, the 41 is a no show from Wallsend Metro

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A no show would perhaps suggest a break down? Which could happen any where any time, not because of the new route and timetable. If there was a problem with the new route and timetable it would have turned up, just late?
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
Don't know if it's been mentioned before (apologies if it has) but a red gne omnidekka has entered service at Stanley numbered 3993. 6137 and 6138 in b & h colours were parked up at Consett bus station today.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
(25 Jul 2016, 2:15 pm)NK53 TKT wrote The 33 today I was on was 33 minutes late with 547

(27 Jul 2016, 7:09 pm)Olympian3521 wrote Don't know if it's been mentioned before (apologies if it has) but a red gne omnidekka has entered service at Stanley numbered 3993.  6137 and 6138 in b & h colours were parked up at Consett bus station today.
I thought dan said the omnidekkas were numbered onwards from the p reg olympians as 3993 was p825sgp.
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
(27 Jul 2016, 7:16 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote I thought dan said the omnidekkas were numbered onwards from the p reg olympians as 3993 was p825sgp.

You need to consider joining the typo police - you do a good job of finding offenders.

I'm sure, now you know that 3993 was an Olympian, you can work out that he has put 3993 by mistake.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
Already seems to me the Solos aren't big enough for any of the 40, 41 or 42 services. Most of the ones I have seen have had most seats taking, and quite a few with standees, especially the 40/41 going around Holy Cross and the 42 going to Asda.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
(27 Jul 2016, 8:28 pm)Tom wrote Already seems to me the Solos aren't big enough for any of the 40, 41 or 42 services. Most of the ones I have seen have had most seats taking, and quite a few with standees, especially the 40/41 going around Holy Cross and the 42 going to Asda.

It's just the 42 for me, it was absolutely packed coming out of Benton Asda.

Also, the new 10A timetable in Newcastle Eldon Square still only showed that it went to Rockwood Hill, with a tiny little part at the bottom (labelled 'y' - exactly) stating that it goes to High Spen and Blackhall Mill, but it never actually shows that on the timeline of the stops. I don't think the changes have been advertised well enough, on the timetable itself it never actually states that its going to Blackhall Mill on the front of the leaflet, it waits until your'e inside to tell you that. I'm sure a regular user of the 11 wouldn't recognise that there is an extension of the 10A (and the withdrawal of the 11 in that way) if it wasn't for the huge petition set up on Facebook that was shared hundreds if not thousands of time. It's almost as if they're scared of telling people that it extends to Blackhall Mill hourly...

A post on the facebook page about the withdrawal of the 11 pretty much sums it up how many of the customers feel:

Dear Go North East,
Like many others, I rely on service 11 everyday and now that you are withdrawing it many of us will be left with a totally inadequate bus service. If you're wondering why bus ridership is decreasing then look no further than this case study - if you don't provide a bus service; nobody will use the bus! Just a few short years ago, Go North East used to conduct widespread passenger consultations. In fact the present service 11 came into being because of one of those consultations. They were an excellent example of a bus company actually listening to its passengers, and I Applauded you for that. However, now it seems the customers opinion is no longer valued, with cut to important services such as the 43, 44 and 44A and now the 11. Crucially, passengers responded to these cuts by signing petitions pleading with you to listen to their concerns. The 43 and 44 petition attracted hundreds if not thousands of signatures and the petition to keep service 11 has attracted over 1,000. Is this not testament that the withdrawing these services was not the right thing to do?
To really add insult to injury, the 10A which is supposed to replace the 11 is advertised as extending hourly to Blackhall Mill, yet on a number of occasions the time between buses is up to 75 minutes. This means that instead of having to wait 10 minutes for a bus, I will now have to wait over an hour.
And I know that I am not alone.
I acknowledge that the 11 is not always as busy as you would like it to be, but particular at peak times the service attracts a very healthy number of passengers (I invite you to ride it) so therefore would it not be possible to keep the 11 in some form so that passengers aren't left without a bus for more than an hour (when the previous frequency was twice an hour) or improve the offering of the 10A so passengers can at least cling on to some sort of service.
Usually I'm very supportive of the decisions you make and I do praise your service, but I just think that this is a step too far.
Thank You in anticipation of your response.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
(27 Jul 2016, 9:09 pm)Jackamcardle wrote It's just the 42 for me, it was absolutely packed coming out of Benton Asda.

Also, the new 10A timetable in Newcastle Eldon Square still only showed that it went to Rockwood Hill, with a tiny little part at the bottom (labelled 'y' - exactly) stating that it goes to High Spen and Blackhall Mill, but it never actually shows that on the timeline of the stops. I don't think the changes have been advertised well enough, on the timetable itself it never actually states that its going to Blackhall Mill on the front of the leaflet, it waits until your'e inside to tell you that. I'm sure a regular user of the 11 wouldn't recognise that there is an extension of the 10A (and the withdrawal of the 11 in that way) if it wasn't for the huge petition set up on Facebook that was shared hundreds if not thousands of time. It's almost as if they're scared of telling people that it extends to Blackhall Mill hourly...

A post on the facebook page about the withdrawal of the 11 pretty much sums it up how many of the customers feel:

Dear Go North East,
Like many others, I rely on service 11 everyday and now that you are withdrawing it many of us will be left with a totally inadequate bus service. If you're wondering why bus ridership is decreasing then look no further than this case study - if you don't provide a bus service; nobody will use the bus! Just a few short years ago, Go North East used to conduct widespread passenger consultations. In fact the present service 11 came into being because of one of those consultations. They were an excellent example of a bus company actually listening to its passengers, and I Applauded you for that. However, now it seems the customers opinion is no longer valued, with cut to important services such as the 43, 44 and 44A and now the 11. Crucially, passengers responded to these cuts by signing petitions pleading with you to listen to their concerns. The 43 and 44 petition attracted hundreds if not thousands of signatures and the petition to keep service 11 has attracted over 1,000. Is this not testament that the withdrawing these services was not the right thing to do?
To really add insult to injury, the 10A which is supposed to replace the 11 is advertised as extending hourly to Blackhall Mill, yet on a number of occasions the time between buses is up to 75 minutes. This means that instead of having to wait 10 minutes for a bus, I will now have to wait over an hour.
And I know that I am not alone.
I acknowledge that the 11 is not always as busy as you would like it to be, but particular at peak times the service attracts a very healthy number of passengers (I invite you to ride it) so therefore would it not be possible to keep the 11 in some form so that passengers aren't left without a bus for more than an hour (when the previous frequency was twice an hour) or improve the offering of the 10A so passengers can at least cling on to some sort of service.
Usually I'm very supportive of the decisions you make and I do praise your service, but I just think that this is a step too far.
Thank You in anticipation of your response.


Yeah it's a stupid idea having Solos on the 42.

Wonder what the effects are of the 11 being withdrawn on the 47 too? It was busy enough to start off with so with the withdrawal of the 11 it will be even busier too.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
(27 Jul 2016, 9:18 pm)Tom wrote Yeah it's a stupid idea having Solos on the 42.

Wonder what the effects are of the 11 being withdrawn on the 47 too? It was busy enough to start off with so with the withdrawal of the 11 it will be even busier too.

I feel for residents in High Spen mostly, Had there Evening service 47 withdrawn only a few months ago and have now had their Daytime service cut to Hourly on a slower route.
I also feel that Nexus and GNE also underestimated how many people use the supported section between Greenside and Blackhall Mill, There always was a healthy load when I used it over the few years it ran.

One of very few places in Tyne and Wear that's had their services significantly cut, Not improved.
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
(27 Jul 2016, 9:30 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote I feel for residents in High Spen mostly, Had there Evening service 47 withdrawn only a few months ago and have now had their Daytime service cut to Hourly on a slower route.
I also feel that Nexus and GNE also underestimated how many people use the supported section between Greenside and Blackhall Mill, There always was a healthy load when I used it over the few years it ran.

One of very few places in Tyne and Wear that's had their services significantly cut, Not improved.

I am in the area and use it regularly, and the passenger loads are very hit and miss. I've never seen it so busy in the last few weeks of its existence.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2016
The 47 needs to go via High Spen to go through Highfield before rejoining the A694 at Rowlands Gill. The change was that they would stop serving High Spen Bus Stand, not High Spen in general.

What should be taken into consideration regarding the 10A extension is that, in return for the frequency being doubled, Go North East allocate deckers to the replacement service meaning that 2 buses worth of passengers can be put onto 1. I took this view when the 43/44 was replaced by the 6 - souble the frequency but twice as many seats in return.